Don't tier the pants out of it.

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But are the increasing restrictions actually addressing these issues? I don't think they really are. The govt are fiddling around the edges rather than looking at these factors properly.

Lol Kurt, it's just the admin side of things, no needles
I'm hoping it's not too intense as I do admin currently for Team Leaders and have helped sort out staffing for flu clinics and have a fair idea how they've worked.

@ladylunchalot

Thanks v much Wax, yeah it's competency based so I've been racking my brains for some examples. Will have a trawl through my work emails tomorrow and see if anything jumps out at me. It's a 30 minute slot so I'm hoping it's not too intensive and with 2 interviewing so a smaller than usual panel. At least I can't be late and struggle to find it

I'd imagine there wont be too many questions if it's only 30 minutes And you can hopefully find an example that you can use for multiple things. Remember to keep saying I or me, this isn't a team interview where you need to give anyone else credit.

Be the person they want you to be, I'd go for polite, competent, efficient and kind for that type of role.

All the best and let us know how you get on.

@ladylunchalot

Lol Kurt, it's just the admin side of things, no needles I'm hoping it's not too intense as I do admin currently for Team Leaders and have helped sort out staffing for flu clinics and have a fair idea how they've worked.

The answer to the first question must start with "When I worked sorting staff for flu clinics.... get good info in where you can in case you don't get an opportunity later

If you get good info in at the beginning, they will be looking for reasons to give you the job, not for reasons not to.

No, @StatisticallyChallenged the restrictions don’t address the actual factors at all. Which is what I find so frustrating.

But to do so the governments would need to acknowledge failings. Much easier to whip up the blame culture and let people turn on each other, whilst being seen to be Doing Something

Aww thanks Wax, some v good advice there. Will dig out my appraisal as well as my boss was v complimentary, not like her.

The government do fiddle round edges

They don’t know what’s it’s like to be poor in lockdown with kids

They really don’t

Not being allowed in anyone’s house since September

Now get your chips at the door of the chippie not inside itsbonkers.

People don’t crowd up in the chippie

But it’s more stamping on us which leads to not caring anymore about the endless restrictions.

Feck I would love a cleaner wouldn’t care if they cleaned my house naked 🛀

They don't address the actual failings, whilst throwing out an ever changing and sometimes illogical assortment of restrictions.

If I think of my work team; in the last month I'd say at least 50% of them have admitted to "breaking rules" - in most cases they didn't know they were because they'd completely lost track of what they actually were! So if you'd asked them "are you sticking to the rules" it would have been "of course I am!". These are people who don't have the sort of issues being discussed - in fact many of the rule breaks were travel related.

So to me it's a double whammy. Constantly tweaking and tightening to the point people and businesses are being tied in knots, whilst not addressing the real problems;

• why don't we have (voluntary) self isolation facilities for people whose living situations don't allow them to reduce contact with family? Won't suit all but it would suit some which is better than none.
• Higher SSP (government backed) for self isolation, and not limited to basically one claim per person. Also covering isolating children
• Remove the current employer costs associated with furlough.
• Support employers who are staying open to be covid safe in meaningful ways rather than just churning out reams of "guidance" which costs a fortune to implement and is reversed next week anyway. And that may mean funding business on a more individual way
• Better solutions than "well you just can't access childcare, but we won't notice that whilst you're working in a factory with 300 other people your kids are with your diabetic mother because you've no other options"

But it's far easier to target small businesses doing click and collect...

On a more shallow note, is B&M still open?

I'd imagine B&M will continue to be open due to the food side? It's still selling essentials

I need a couple of bits for my new study. Will pop in.

Banned eh need that badge of honour 😀
@Groovee glad to hear you’d had a good few days.

I can’t be bothered raising to the baiters let them raise their own BP.
As Capt Tom says ‘tomorrow will be a good day’

Government will be looking at the data from track and trace and the lists of where positive cases have been.
The biggest number is always the supermarket due to the nature, at the moment then followed by health care settings. But there is nothing to be done about those ones so then they look for any common trends...... As we don't have much else going on the common trend outside family/known contact is takeaways and click and collect services. DH does covid response from a business compliance approach for LA.

The rules suck but they currently have zero control on it so it's back to harshness to try and get a handle on it. I don't really mind the new changes as prefer keeping my outdoor exercise not limited to once a day/an hour etc and somewhere for DS to play/run around.

Sorry, experience of tracing in community relayed to me has been woeful: eg report to track and trace there is a cluster and being told there isn't.

Yes they have a set list of boxes and shops is one location most people tick.

But that's kind of the point - they're assuming correlation is causation.

Person a) I went to work (delivery driver), the supermarket, click and collect from . Most likely sources of contagion probably in the order they're written.

Person B) I went to the hospital, the supermarket, click and collect from , chinese take out. Same re order

Person C) visited my mum (in a bubble, but mum breaks the rules, or maybe she's working in a risky environment), the chemist, got a greggs.

Stats for contact points
shops (essential) - 3
workplace - 1
hospital - 1
family - 1
click and collect - 2
takeout food - 2

(obviously the collection tick boxes won't match these) but the point is that this data tells you where people have been, not where they've caught it. Each of these people is most likely to have caught it in somewhere which will remain open. But action is being taken to curtail the other places, which may well be utterly meaningless. Are we getting to that point? It seems perfectly possible.

Yep they are relying on people being honest but also any potential trends - multiple reports of the same place can be a indicator but not always so usually investigated further if multiple reports.

Tbh its a bit of a what else can we do without taking away bubbles/support. They are going for low hanging fruit as the next potential steps available are far far more dreconian and solidly back to March!

Much prefer that they try this one for a bit in the hope it curtail something then risk March measures! I don't even have a bubble but I know they are a life line for some friends.

The usual trying to be seen to do something, while not actually doing anything worthwhile.

End of Feb to get vaccination centres set up at Ravencraig. Seriously why so long, surely it doesn't take that long?
And if it does take that long why did prep not start much sooner?

Good luck with interview. Fingers crossed

The thing is, if this new strain does increase the R by 0.7 as has been suggested then we probably won't get cases to really go down even if we do go to March measures - all else being equal they'd need to have got down to about 0.3 withough new ultra spready for them to be below 1 once you factor in the increase. I don't think we ever got it that low from memory.

The increase might be lower, but even then it's winter so spread likely to be higher. Getting it below 1 may only happen due to the vaccine taking people out of the transmission chain - I know this isn't certain yet.

I'm with you statistically.

This week I have been: supermarket click and collect, out for the bins, to get my breast screen, and to the post box Biggest chance of catching it is breast screening, but I've put supermarket down as will the vast majority of people. Chance of catching it collecting my groceries in the car park, none.

I got a chippy last weekend too, 5 minute slot, wait in my car, get a text, go in door, pay and straight back out - maybe 30 seconds. If I'd been asked then technically I went in to collect a takeaway.

Actually I've oversimplified r there as it's not static - so the 0.7 should fall too. Or rise... Apologies, long day. But, the basic premise stands - new strain plus winter might make an R of

Just because people testing positive have been in a supermarket does NOT mean they caught it there.

No lockdown measures will really make any difference now. See the rise when we’ve been locked up for months here.

But then we had an R number at or below 1 for months and the restrictions remained pretty tight? No idea what the plan is or even if there is a plan. Remember the mythical level zero still isn't normal life.

People are getting it in hospital; care homes; workplaces where people can’t afford to self isolate (see my post above) and homes

Homes linked to the above, not rule breakers visiting.