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Hello 👋

I’m really enjoying these threads. Makes me feel not quite so alone in the world.

I had a large red wine tonight. Wolfblass Cabernet 🤤

Starting to turn my mind to house move (if Nikki doesn’t torpedo us between now and February 🙏🏻)

Three’s behaviour is beyond atrocious right now and it’s getting me down. I suspect it’s all the upheaval - out of nursery, impending house move. It’s a lot for a three year old. But my goodness, she’s like the Tasmanian devil right now.

I survived day 1 of HS. I even managed to fit in a couple hours of work. I normally do 3 full days.

I honestly don't know how people who work full time are managing.

We were talking about how the virus spreads and why. Poverty seems to be a massive factor. The need to be out in poorly paid public facing employment; insufficient support to self isolate; and overcrowded or multigenerational housing; preexisting poor health; stress.

It seems to be a failure of public health to tackle these issues, as well as hospital etc transmission, that’s the issue, not people breaking the rules. The medics appear still to be astounded by the huge compliance. It may also explain why Scotland is so badly hit.

@WaxOnFeckOff I managed to get a check up for my 4yo the other day at the dentist.

Waiting to hear if my newborn will get his 6 week check though. Already been told I won't get a 6 week check even though I had an episiotomy, infection and wound breakdown

Only seen a midwife once since ds2 was born and hv once. It's pitiful actually. I wouldn't be surprised if levels of PND have risen in the past year and will go undetected as no ones bothering to even check in with new mothers.

Just marking my place for later.

[quote shouldistop]@WaxOnFeckOff I managed to get a check up for my 4yo the other day at the dentist.

Waiting to hear if my newborn will get his 6 week check though. Already been told I won't get a 6 week check even though I had an episiotomy, infection and wound breakdown

Only seen a midwife once since ds2 was born and hv once. It's pitiful actually. I wouldn't be surprised if levels of PND have risen in the past year and will go undetected as no ones bothering to even check in with new mothers. [/quote]
God I hope you can get checked over and aren't in pain after that birth

Day 2 of home school... I just hope fucking Glow/Microsoft Teams works today! Spent half of yesterday arguing with it.

Thanks @Squeakypotato I'm a little sore but not too bad now thank you.

Should I stop. Congratulations on baby! You can guarantee that the levels of PND will have increased. Partly due to isolation and particularly if the Dad goes 'out' to work, even wfh dads stuck zooming in a corner could be isolating. Groups which are a lifeline for new mums haven't been running. People genuinely forget what it's actually like to have a newborn, how relentless those first months are. There's something good about meeting other mums knowing that you aren't alone. Being able to take a new friendship beyond the baby group even going for a walk and a coffee together. Opportunities to meet new friends are much easier when you are on maternity leave. They'll be mums returning to work now who's entire mat leave has been restricted.

Again England allowing support bubbles for families with a baby under 1 has to be a help. None of that in Scotland. No no. I'm convinced that its because neither she on her soapbox or sidekick have ever had a baby and do not know how hard those months are.
It's great that Scottish hospitals seem to have avoided being over run but the toll on MH has to be horrendous and something that needs to be compared after this.

@shouldistop for you, I've been there too although not in these circumstances. I spent a lot of time in the bath. I hope you and your wee one get checked. Congratulations on your baby too.

Re the 6 week check, I never had one with my youngest just turned 4, apparently they'd decided that they weren't needed or if a mum was still in pain / suffering she could make a normal GP appointment.
I think the HV still did a MH assessment though.

you can have informal childcare though for the 4 yo if you have anyone to do it shouldistop - and talk to the HV re nursery place if things are feeling very bad, they're aware of the lack of support for parents of new babies at the moment. I hope you get the 6 week check - you need that reassurance.

scottishskifun I fear he will indeed need a drink come 1 Feb, if it's not announced before.

Right, onwards into day 2, hoping to start work on time, I annoyed my colleague who had recommended me for this job yesterday by starting late due to IT issues on the home schooling now hopefully resolved...

Did anyone see the depressing vaccine pie chart?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53511877

It's the graph that got me barely doing half the target vaccines. Not help by still trying to recruit folk, applications only went in on the 6th so allowing time for selection, interviews, and stuff it will be end of January before these people start. Nothing like dropping the ball.

Seriously wtf! They knew the vaccines were coming they knew it was a race to get them done. Bullshit they held some back from the second dose they knew they'd have more supplies coming.
Did someone said their area was still doing flu vaccines and wont start covid ones until the flu ones were finished?

Thanks @anon444877 my mil and mum are taking ds1 occasionally but he really misses nursery and his friends . Unfortunately his nursery is closed and I wouldn't send him to a hub with people he didn't know. Doubtful I'd get a place anyway just due to child birth recovery, EDC are really strict with places.
I'm looking forward to spring, even if there are still loads of restrictions the baby will be bigger (easier to feed and sleeping better is the hope) and we'll be able to spend most days outside.
On today's agenda is a walk to the shop and a trip to the play park.

@Lockdownbear oh really? I had one with my 4yo. It's funny how different practices have different guidelines.
I'm going to call gp later to check about ds check , he'll be 6 weeks on Friday and I'd like to get him weighed as he hasn't been since 14days and there's no clinics open to take him to.

I can see the problem there re hubs then should, I wouldn't rule out asking though.

I'm Lanarkshire, never been to a baby weight clinic ever. However when I had DS1 nearly 10, the HV who ran the BFing support used to make scales available to the mums. But the time I had DS2 no no scales cause too much anxiety so not allowed at BFing support. If you wanted them weight you had to book an appointment at the clinic. Then they switched to the clinic was referral only. Gawd knows how you were meant to get referred if nobody weighted the baby.

I'm not convinced that £££ was behind the decisions rather than baby / mum welfare. But what I'm really saying is don't blame everything on Covid.

Sorry I've a 'not' in there that shouldn't be.

The baby weighing clinics disappeared in Lanarkshire about 3 years ago. I remember because littlest one had just been born, and it went from them being a couple times a week in multiple locations (with older one) to once a month, to appointment only in the space of a few weeks. The HV (who was coming out for LO) told me stories about how some of them had complained and been put back in their box and told not to discuss it with mothers. It was a funding thing, and lots of them were very unhappy about it, but basically told to shut up and get on with it.

It really pissed me off that baby weighing was stopped. 'Make an appointment if you're concerned'. Of course I'm concerned, I'm a new mum! Plus when you're breastfeeding you feel your baby's not putting on as much weight as bottlefed babies, where you also know how much they're having in ozs, so it would be nice to be able to check. Still waiting for HV to weigh baby 'before you return to work in July'.

Youcannotbeserious- that sounds about right. I'm sure before then the HVs were complaining about being short staffed. Which they had been for years.
We moved when my oldest was about mths. I knew HV were meant to come out to new child in the area so phoned to make arrangements before I went back to work, oh no no we don't come out too busy .....ok whatever....about 2 mths later panicked HV I need to come and see you tomorrow....eh no I'm too busy and have work to go to.

My typing isn't great this morning 9mths that was meant to read

@shouldistop ouch! That’s really rubbish and I hope you’re doing ok.

I can’t imagine how hard it is to have a newborn without any of the groups or being allowed to go for a coffee with other new mums. Mine were such a support to me.

It’s quite frightening how all these things we were told were fundamental to a good society and to physical and mental health have just been ditched overnight.

I wasn’t aware of the baby bubble thing in England and that would at least be something.

The English baby bubble thing is all very well but I think that we've been better off for kids overall.

The U12s not counting for numbers makes a massive difference to family life - young children can actually play with friends outside so only children can get some interaction. Without that rule my 2yo would have barely seen another child since September (no nursery as I put off job hunting), plus they don't have to distance from other children so they can interact normally.

Yeah I don’t think that SG really get how grim it is stuck in a flat with toddlers and babies.

No where to go the weather not great.

No wonder people go round to their friends