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Cismyfatarse · 02/01/2021 23:12

As requested.

Happy to help with home es queries about English up to AH level.

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ikswobel · 04/01/2021 16:13

All the committees are recorded and reports produced verbatim here

www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=13027&i=117813
It's very boring but you can trawl through all of them.
The Scotgov briefings are updated online whenever something new comes out and only the latest ones are accessible, this must be to avoid confusion but it's really annoying.

kurtrussellsbeard · 04/01/2021 16:14

Schools being open isn't safe in terms of the wider impact it has on transmission.

  • kids are bringing the virus home from school
  • kids mixing in school encourages neighbours and friends to mix if they have children in the same schools
  • kids are mixing households due to car sharing, shared pick ups and so on
  • schools being open gives us an overall sense of normality that encourages people to break rules/ relax (oh well they're mixing in school anyway)

Like it or not this is a pandemic and it's the government's responsibility to save as many lives as they can. Particularly now that an end is in sight.

makingitupaswegoon · 04/01/2021 16:16

So for all the rhetoric we are (almost) back at square one. Still remember NS hooting that we had almost eradicated the virus in July. Shows how much she understands about virology. this virus was too widespread i.e. worldwide for that to ever happen.

So schools shut till at least 1 Feb - you can guarantee that that will be longer given that many schools are due to break up on the 5 Feb. It's a shambles. Just hope the opticians and dentists can stay open this time.

And meanwhile, no actual data or statistics to indicate where transmission is taking place. Until I see otherwise I will continue to assume hospitals, care homes, hospices, long stay mental health facilities and similar, workplaces rather than just 'in the community'.

ikswobel · 04/01/2021 16:16

@Arkadia we can't all agree on politics so perhaps we shouldn't be calling anyone names? Especially as Ruth Davidson has an actual title now. I can think of lots of discourteous titles for her though. But I'm too much of a "lady" Smile

Perihelion · 04/01/2021 16:19

You can get the minutes of the meeting easily with a freedom of information request.
Boris Johnson is making an announcement tonight at 8pm, after letting lots of English primary schools open today. And he's a bawbag for going to a North London hospital today for a vaccine clinic photo op.

titsbumfannythelot · 04/01/2021 16:21

I wish folk would accept that this is now an endemic virus, it has been for some time.

Someone asked about driving tests- they are cancelled

NotAnActualSheep · 04/01/2021 16:21

On the name thing, I have to say I'm not keen on personal "rude nicknames" based on anything, sex or otherwise (I'm OK with BoJo as BJ just sounds a bit ruder to me, but otherwise I'd just tend to use initials where that is obvious). Just because I'm old fashioned and think politicians deserve a certain degree of respect just because of their role in society, whether or not I agree with them politically. I'm perfectly happy calling BoJo a self serving knob, though, which is a gender based insult I suppose. But it's not specifically constrained to him. Happy to apply it to lots of the current UK and Scottish government, and Patrick Harvie too for reasons of political equality. Though he could be a self serving dalek humping knob if it helps distinguish.

kurtrussellsbeard · 04/01/2021 16:22

It will be endemic. Right now we're still in the exponential growth phase of he pandemic. Different thing.

anon444877 · 04/01/2021 16:23

Wanksock for Hancock has me in a puerile heap every time though. There isn't a lot of levity around at the moment.

titsbumfannythelot · 04/01/2021 16:23

@Perihelion

You can get the minutes of the meeting easily with a freedom of information request. Boris Johnson is making an announcement tonight at 8pm, after letting lots of English primary schools open today. And he's a bawbag for going to a North London hospital today for a vaccine clinic photo op.
It takes 28 days for an foi request. These were available freely a few days ago.

I imagine Boris has always been a bawbag. Just for balance I find Nipoleon an absolute walloper too.

Arkadia · 04/01/2021 16:24

@ikswobel, I fear that you have to put up with honorifics bestowed by the populace. It has always been like this and it will always be like this.
If you can't stomach it, you shouldn't be in the public eye.

Perihelion · 04/01/2021 16:25

makingitup 82% of patients in London hospitals, last week with Covid, were admitted with it, not caught while there.
To think that it's not in the community is optimistic.

Groovee · 04/01/2021 16:25

Just catching up. I reckon the earliest schools will be back will be the 16th February.

Our holidays start on the 5th, so there's no chance we'll go back for 5 days. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.

Am a wee bit concerned about my grief etc. I was finding work helpful. But being at home working alone while ds floats about and DD may have to do remote learning as part of her placement.

But glad I know now that we're in lockdown for her 21st x

Dinnafashyersel · 04/01/2021 16:26

Kurt my DD lives 5 minutes walk from school as do all her friends. They all live in surrounding streets and use the same park also 5 minutes walk away. Their parents all use the same supermarket-also 5 minutes walk. We are all friends and neighbours and meet each other daily on our state mandated socially distanced skites on the ice. Most of the parents also staff all the essential services from supermarkets to plumbers to delivery drivers to nurses and careworkers.

Having the schools shut makes absolutely no difference to levels of local mixing. If anything it disrupts the normal patterns and increases interactions as patchwork solutions are forced upon everyone.

NotAnActualSheep · 04/01/2021 16:27

@Shorternights

Apologies if I’ve missed this, but is informal childcare (by GPs) still permitted do we think? The Parent Club website obviously hasn’t been updated Hmm
Ha! It's a good question, but I'm really not sure relying on parent club will help. They'll suggest the children are given some pasta to thread onto string and a bowl of sliced banana to snack on and they'll be fine and safely entertained for 6- 7 hours.
Baycob · 04/01/2021 16:27

@ikswobel

No. I call Ruth Davidson the saviour. The only one that talks sense!

kurtrussellsbeard · 04/01/2021 16:27

What's the best approach vaccine wise folks?

NHS staff
Teachers
Elderly and vulnerable
Everyone else

Any ideas?

ikswobel · 04/01/2021 16:28

@Groovee I'm sorry to hear this. Thanks
It's going to be a very tough couple of months I think, work will be like swimming through treacle for me, and I don't have small dc to deal with.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 04/01/2021 16:30

I'll admit I rarely post on this thread because of the name calling and constant digs. Not because I'm a great fan of NS but because it's embarrassing childish shite. The fact that someone mentioned it and got told to fuck off to another thread is awful.

Surely we can all be part of the only corner of this site specifically for us without being told to fuck off if we show pro-SNP sentiment.

kurtrussellsbeard · 04/01/2021 16:30

@Dinnafashyersel well you're not following the guidelines properly as you shouldn't be mixing with other households in the park or at the shops. There should be 2m distance and in the shops you should have masks on.

People using the same parks and supermarkets Is not even remotely the same thing as putting thirty kids in a classroom with one window and no masks for several hours a day. Jeeso.

kurtrussellsbeard · 04/01/2021 16:33

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I'll admit I rarely post on this thread because of the name calling and constant digs. Not because I'm a great fan of NS but because it's embarrassing childish shite. The fact that someone mentioned it and got told to fuck off to another thread is awful.

Surely we can all be part of the only corner of this site specifically for us without being told to fuck off if we show pro-SNP sentiment.

Well said!

I was sworn at and told to grow up on another thread for having a different opinion 🤣. It really puts me off scotnset. There's a clear clique who try to police threads.

The name calling makes my toes curl. It's just so embarrassing for those doing the calling. I can only imagine they don't know what they sound like.

makingitupaswegoon · 04/01/2021 16:33

personally I think the whole vaccination programme is wrong as it should be focussing on the most at risk in the broader categories so for NHS staff it should be frontline hospital in Covid wards, A&E, GPs, dentists etc not just a blanket anyone who works for the NHS.

I believe you just ring to get a vaccine slot if you work anywhere in the NHS (self-selecting) so not necessarily based on those with greatest need getting first.

Groovee · 04/01/2021 16:33

[quote ikswobel]@Groovee I'm sorry to hear this. Thanks
It's going to be a very tough couple of months I think, work will be like swimming through treacle for me, and I don't have small dc to deal with.[/quote]
Thank you. I am really going to miss my wee ones and colleagues x

ikswobel · 04/01/2021 16:34

@Baycob well, if you don't mind that the sense she talks depends directly on what's being spun from Number 10, she had such a lot to say over Brexit but promptly changed her tune when BJ gave her a seat in the Lords. She was going to give up politics for her family, remember? She presents as a wholesome old fashioned Scottish Tory but she is anything but. Give me Jackson Carlaw any day ( and I never thought I'd be saying that!)

rookiemere · 04/01/2021 16:35

I'm feeling a bit fragile today because of the announcement, and I know I'm going to sound really drippy but I wish we could be respectful whilst agreeing to disagree.
These threads have been a source of comfort to me and I think we're all on edge due to the new restrictions, so maybe we could move back to normal service?

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