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Morning all.

Thank you lovely vipers, @runningpink @Rae36

@Snowdrop30

Just feeling really sad tonight. Putting a brave face on for my kids. But just wanted to tell someone. That's all. Just sad.

Yup. This. Me too.

Sending to everyone who needs them

Aww that sounds nice @groovee

Not how you might have wanted it but nice all the same.

I'm glad it was able to happen for your family before Christmas and before everything changed again

Sorry to hear you're feeling down Snowdrop, I think we all have such big anxious moments just now. The chat and banter on here definitely is a tonic, hope you're feeling better soon 

@Groovee that sounds like a nice tribute

@Snowdrop30

Just feeling really sad tonight. Putting a brave face on for my kids. But just wanted to tell someone. That's all. Just sad.

We understand Snowdrop it’s s@it. Hang in there well done doing it for your kids @Groovee sounds nice what you did, perhaps have something next year with those who couldn’t attend.

Evening

Hard to know what new tiers could bring us too

Don’t even want to think.

Just going on but so glad I got hair cut last week

@Coquohvan

Plenty of folk (me included ) aren't a fan of needles and may well conclude it's not worth getting the second one

Would you let NHS know if you don’t want your second dose?

I didn't mean I won't take the second - I meant that if the "one dose is enough" is wrong it needs correcting very quickly before it becomes common knowledge and people decide they don't need the second.

I was just using myself as an example of a needlephobe not saying I wouldn't take it

Snowdrop30 I’m feeling like this too like I’m on the brink of crying every time I hug my kids today
I’m going to find a film I can sob at tonight whilst trying to get through the Christmas sewing I still need to do.

Groovee it sounds like a lovely way to celebrate your Dad

@Snowdrop30 tier threads are here whenever you need. So many people really feeling it just now.

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Snowdrop30 I’m feeling like this too like I’m on the brink of crying every time I hug my kids today I’m going to find a film I can sob at tonight whilst trying to get through the Christmas sewing I still need to do.

Groovee it sounds like a lovely way to celebrate your Dad

I can recommend greys anatomy if you need a bloody good cry

Does anyone else feel like a mug, hearing about family members and friends, flying to other parts of the UK, getting together for meals and generally bending the rules to within a hair's breadth of snapping? I'm sick of being seen as the "neurotic one."

I don't actually @justmuddlingalong, and I'm sorry it makes you feel like that. Would it help a bit to reframe it in your head? I try and think of it like the firebreaks in the forest near the place where I grew up: we just need enough people to be prepared to be those breaks, so the whole bloody thing doesn't burn down. I can't control what everyone else does, I can control what I do. Sorry if that makes me sound like a real goody two shoes - have shielding friends and family. 2 friends have been desperately ill in hospital, 1 died.

@StatisticallyChallenged

By next week we will be delivering second doses though, and the flow of vaccines coming in isn't all that fast. It would allow people still in the very high priority groups to be covered more quickly

IIRC we got 800k doses and hoped for more before year end. Not that many

I thought I heard Matt Hancock saying we had the original 800k doses, and there were more arriving this week (? Though they may have been held up by the closed border chaos). But then the next ones were coming in March . That seems like a huge wait. I really hope that I misheard, or that the Oxford one gets the go ahead before then. Is that manufactured in the UK?

DPs doctors thought it would be Feb or March by the time it reached them. They're (just) under 80 but ready to take whatever they get given.

Travelling Tabby now have vaccination numbers added to their data.

@StatisticallyChallenged I understand a needle phobia as not keen myself, actually paid for my flu jab these past 5 yrs.
A things stand currently and until Gov say otherwise, you get 2 jabs 3wks apart. Just interested if you’d c/x ahead to let others have it.

@Shorternights

What do we think the chances are of an announcement from Scot Gov tomorrow outlining further restrictions (Level 4+; Level 5; Lockdown 2.0?!) from Boxing Day? I was kind of expecting something today, but it all seems to have gone a bit quieter after the mask news.

Yes, I'm really confused as to whether we are just following the normal level 4 from Saturday, or if its level 4 plus some other random stuff. So according to the level 4 restriction page on the SG website it says garden centres can open as essential retail, ( Click and collect, on-line services and outdoor retail, such as garden centres, outdoor markets and car lots, can also remain open ) but the retail guidance which was changed today doesn't have them included in the list of shops that can open. And the press yesterday were definitely saying they were to close, but I can't work out where they got that from. Not that I have any particular axe to grind re closure of garden centres, but I bet the garden centres themselves would like to know.

I'm assuming anything else will be announced on Monday or probably Tuesday next week (Tues being when they normally do the levels reviews) so that's something to look forward to.

Snowdrop that is how I feel too for similar reasons. However it is frustrating when others make it more difficult to manage risk individually. Think stockpiling, Govts of all shapes closing everything except bare minimum services and panicking everyone etc etc etc.

@Snowdrop30

I don't actually *@justmuddlingalong*, and I'm sorry it makes you feel like that. Would it help a bit to reframe it in your head? I try and think of it like the firebreaks in the forest near the place where I grew up: we just need enough people to be prepared to be those breaks, so the whole bloody thing doesn't burn down. I can't control what everyone else does, I can control what I do. Sorry if that makes me sound like a real goody two shoes - have shielding friends and family. 2 friends have been desperately ill in hospital, 1 died.

That's basically how I've been seeing things too. I do feel a bit cross though when I see people letting their dcs break the rules. Dd has friends having sleepovers etc and I feel a bit guilty that we follow everything to the letter.

I'm so sorry you're feeling down snowdrop, rae and running, and anyone else. Have some , hugs and a drink of your choosing

I'm glad today went as well as could be hoped groovee. Sounds like a lovely tribute, and yes, hopefully you can have a proper memory party once all this shit is over and done with. Having said that, a chippy sounds amazing!

@Snowdrop30 It won't make me change my behaviour. I'm just frustrated that in my extended family alone, so many people are taking, IMO, unnecessary risks. I feel like I'm pissing against the wind, while being laughed at for taking precautions. DP is high risk and we're only meeting family outdoors. We're ridiculed and told we're being neurotic and over the top, so much so that I feel like hunkering down at home, leaving them all to suit them bloody selves. If the mixing in numbers is replicated all over the UK, I just feel that my trying to be sensible is so pointless. Am so scunnered.

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@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Snowdrop30 I’m feeling like this too like I’m on the brink of crying every time I hug my kids today I’m going to find a film I can sob at tonight whilst trying to get through the Christmas sewing I still need to do.

Groovee it sounds like a lovely way to celebrate your Dad

Oh no. But yes, a Christmassy film is a great idea. I had a sob at a video of penguins singing in the bleak midwinter yesterday, so I think it's getting to me too...

@Justmuddlingalong sorry your family is being so rubbish - how can they ridicule someone who lives with a high risk person? I don't understand that at all. It's not pointless because even if case numbers do rise from others not taking care, you won't be included in them.

We're all a bit fed up across all sections, particularly hard to feel optimism with this Christmas lockdown that came out of nowhere.

I hear you @justmuddlingalong. I'm getting the same, "You're such a worrier" treatment. It sucks.

@Justmuddlingalong

Does anyone else feel like a mug, hearing about family members and friends, flying to other parts of the UK, getting together for meals and generally bending the rules to within a hair's breadth of snapping? I'm sick of being seen as the "neurotic one."

I can totally see where you're coming from. We've changed our plans again, so now instead of DPs coming to ours for Christmas lunch, we're having a drive-by present and mince pie exchange in our driveway tomorrow. They have just been freaked by all the messaging, plus their doctors and pharmacist getting in on the act, and don't want to meet inside any more. And my DM is feeling very sad about it all, but her words were "we want to be seen to be doing the right thing". I'm not sure who would be seeing them, but obviously we respect their decision. I'm just angry that two intelligent, independent people have been so bombarded with negative and scary messaging they have accepted that they need to be told what to do. Gahhhhhh.

Also we now have a fuckton of sprouts that I bought to placate them. Because even though I'm 43 and allegedly an adult, I have to cook and serve a repulsive vegetable that no one actually likes and some of us tolerate, because "you have to have sprouts at Christmas" ...

I realise that that makes me sound like part of the problem for getting annoyed! To be honest, it is probably a bit of a relief that they have made the decision themselves. But it is really not on for others to criticise other people who are sacrificing their own Christmases to "do the right thing". Everyone has different situations, levels of vulnerability and so on, so just because one group is still going ahead with meeting up, it doesn't mean another group is wrong not to.