Tiery Weary & Crackers!

[Bikingbear]

As a carry on from the last thread

I don't know much about Govanhill but is it just me who thinks the tide is starting to turn on the unstoppable SNP?

We just need to keep the momentum up but I think it's too late for May to be honest. But I'm seeing a lot less support on FB and when folk are posting it's getting very few likes. DH managed another convert this week. I'm falling behind but I never see anyone and my colleagues are all from down south

Govanhill is a hole one of my Dds had an ex boyfriend who rented a flat just on the edge of it what goes on there is horrific. I can't even find the words but imo it's scotlands shame and Nicola sturgeon should hand it over to an MSP who might actually help it.

I don't know if any of you remember a story of a refugee woman been sold outside Primark argylle street last year as a "wife" well that trafficker was from govanhill.ill see if I can find the story but basically she was being bought and sold for thousands.

We lived in Govanhill for a couple of years ~20 yrs ago - I’m always horrified by what I read about it now
Barring the pubs all boarding up the windows anytime there was an old firm game it was a nice enough place to live. The flat itself OTOH had ancient carpet sagging between the floorboards in the kitchen...

@Mrsjayy What goes on there? I know there's abject poverty and exploitative landlords causing severe overcrowding.

Pretty much everything @icanboogieboogiewoogie drugs, trafficking, theft, prostitution, child poverty, dreadful housing stock

Have been playing with the tables and charts on travelling tabby this morning - i usually just go for the Scottish data, not the national site.

When you look at the national "heat map" sorted by cases per 100k it's so easy to see where the problem is. South Wales, London, Kent and Essex. Particularly South Wales. 6 of the 10 top are all Welsh, well over 750 cases per 100k. Nowhere in Scotland is in the 200+ category, the worst is North Ayrshire at 174.4.

This is another London-centric (and Welsh-centric) surge and there is just no reason for Sturgeon to come down on us hard.

Oh and where I live we have 78.2 cases per 100k over the last 7 days. When the top three areas in Wales have between 1000 and 1200, there's no comparison.

So I'm thinking my pipe dream of a couple of nights away in a Premier Inn and seeing our relatives in Northern England at Christmas may not materialise. Actually I say pipe dream, but it was a booked plan, based on government advice at the times.

Torn between giving up on it now and saving any further disappointment, or keeping going as it's only a few days away and issue appears to be in the South.

We have no heart warming or worthy reasons for going, just wanted only child DS 14 to have some company over Christmas.

It’s here

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50345366

Thank you littlebrowndog for posting that, it is just horrific.

This thread has cheered me up.

Billy would be 'bad santa'.

Where does Nicola actually live?

Over by Baillieston/Uddingston way I think

Bothwell

People were asking ages ago about Santa visits, and it seems that there’s that, and a Winter Wonderland, at Goulding’s garden centre in filthy Lanarkshire

I was in Dobbies on Wednesday they were also doing Santa visits

I read about that at the time, and have been quite aware of Govanhill and its problems. I was just wondering if there had been anything more recently which had sparked the 'investigation'.

That news article is so sad - all credit to the police. You wonder how much of a warning it is that it sadly needed a 3 year project to have enough evidence to get 4 convictions.

I skim read and thought the police were doing Santa visits to check that naughty children hadn't slipped in from bad Tiers

@rookiemere the dentist will announce that on Monday 😂

Oh,and @rookiemere I think I’d still be inclined to go on your trip. I think it will seem less worrisome once you’re actually there, and company for your boy would be good.

' I can' - there's a man going round videoing Govanhill with a racist rhetoric dome examples- the Roma are stealing from houses each night and bringing their goods back there in big white vans. He also says they're pimping out children and throwing human waste out of windows.
He has a YouTube channel people are referred to. He also films bin areas and says they're 'gardens'. The link I posted above explains it well ( she's a Dr, sociologist, living in Govanhill).
I don't know if he's trying to create s*it for political reasons ( he mentions that it's part of NS's constituency) or to get more views on YouTube. Of course there's huge deprivation issues and some of the people here are already marginalised by society.

Me too - I was in a cold sweat about going away in October half term even though it was grudgingly accepted they were allowed and it was wonderful and the last opportunity we were likely to have for at least another 6 months. And then they made travel illegal!

As long as none of you are at risk and make sure you don't see people who are at risk that don't understand the risk they're taking, I'd do it.

I've got friends whose family are unlikely to see another Christmas and they're seeing them even though they're at risk because for some of us, Easter is an uncertain horizon.

Rookiemere I'd go in your trip to.

I honestly don't think they will pull the plug on Christmas, Especially after building peoples hopes up, the suicide rates would go through the roof.

They might say more on facemasks, separate bathrooms, SD inside houses, open windows, wear a hat indoors if your cold etc but they just can't pull the plug so close.