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Tiers Of A Clown

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Bytheloch · 08/12/2020 16:46

Thread #3456

Released from our dirty T4, but still bamboozled. Let’s keep each other sane on here...

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anon444877 · 09/12/2020 19:51

It's something about the 'restriction' too - I've had several years with Scotland or uk holidays not abroad which were our family's choice. I hope that new year holiday prediction is wrong!

RaspberryCoulis · 09/12/2020 19:53

Agree - there is nothing wrong with a Scottish holiday if that's what you want to do. We've had some amazing ones.

But it's the idea that she has the right to tell anyone where they should or should not have their holiday. She can fuck RIGHT off with that one.

MrsAmaretto · 09/12/2020 19:54

Are there published guidelines for how places move down a teir?

My 8 year old was asking yesterday about how many cases we have (1) and when we are allowed to have some more families round and it got me thinking.

We've had no community transmission in weeks apparently. Only 1 case, so why are we still in Level 1?

anon444877 · 09/12/2020 20:01

Beats me. Tier one was supposed to allow indoor meeting, then it was 'but not intially'. We're hardly at the initial stage of the tier system.

If we aren't allowed more freedom of choice once the most vulnerable are vaccinated, I can't see people continuing to accept it.

WouldBeGood · 09/12/2020 20:09

This is all getting very Eastern Block

hilbil21 · 09/12/2020 20:12

Surely if she banned overseas travel there would be absolute uproar!! We are still planning on going to dirty Engerland tomorrow Shock I'm a bit scared but what's the worst that can happen Hmm

NotAnActualSheep · 09/12/2020 20:14

@Rae36

I remember overhearing a conversation back in the summer among a bunch of old guys about how the bats in the woods out the back of our house had it and were spreading it by pooing in people's gardens in the night. That explains why Edinburgh is stuck in 3. No matter how hard we try the bats will keep crapping on our efforts.
See, if NS had used that as the justification for Edinburgh staying in level 3, I'd have bought it...Xmas Grin

On the allergy thing, it sounds like the regulators did say that people with allergies shouldn't be given it, so it's not so much an issue with the approval being "rushed", though maybe with the roll-out being less thorough than it should have been, given the urgency and mass campaign. And as it seems to have been NHS staff who were affected, they may have felt under pressure to do it without reading the small print.... Hopefully they'll do things slightly more by the book from now. I do worry it will put people off who were on the fence, though, but I suppose by the time the majority of vulnerable people get offered it, it will be a well oiled machine.

I'm worried that they are still talking about restrictions on travel etc for next summer. Surely that is the point of the vaccines?! OK, the virus will still be around, but by then the people who are most vulnerable to getting really ill will be protected. At what stage are the rest of us allowed to take the miniscule risk of serious illness on ourselves (without worrying about "killing granny" by mistake) whether the virus is caught in Alloa, or Alnmouth or Alicante? Surely we could catch any virus abroad and bring it back to Scotland...OK, not ideal, but we don't stop people travelling on the offensive. It all seems rather draconian.

NotAnActualSheep · 09/12/2020 20:14

(Off chance. Not offensive. Though it is also offensive.)

NotAnActualSheep · 09/12/2020 20:19

@MrsAmaretto

Are there published guidelines for how places move down a teir?

My 8 year old was asking yesterday about how many cases we have (1) and when we are allowed to have some more families round and it got me thinking.

We've had no community transmission in weeks apparently. Only 1 case, so why are we still in Level 1?

Oh, that is ridiculous! When can ANYONE hope for level 0 in that case?! Is it when us dirty central-belters promise to stop licking each other and swear never to come anywhere near you with our dirty central belt ways? What is the point of having tiers in the first place if an absence of community transmission in a particular area doesn't "qualify" you for the lowest one, because it is still happening elsewhere...
titsbumfannythelot · 09/12/2020 20:23

@WouldBeGood

This is all getting very Eastern Block
Exactly. I'll be going away somewhere.
rookiemere · 09/12/2020 20:26

Well most of us have had to reschedule our 2020 holidays into 2021, so don't really get a choice about restricting our holidays to the Motherland.

What a thing to say though. Once the vaccine gets rolled out widely why on earth would people not be able to travel where they want? So ok booking an Easter holiday may be optimistic but surely to god by Summer we must be looking at some sort of don't even mention new normality.

But then what do we expect from the woman who hasn't had a day off since this all kicked off. Part of me admires her work ethic, but a lot of me thinks it's just not normal to keep going without a break. Even Theresa May had her holiday in Italy I think it was during her beleaguered tenure- and you could hardly accuse her of being a fun loving gadabout.

JamesMoriarty · 09/12/2020 20:30

I'll possibly be giving a 2021 holiday a miss due to finances but it would be ridiculous to ban travel next year. Surely we'll be getting back to normal.

Iwillneverbesatisfied · 09/12/2020 20:35

I've told DH we're going on holiday abroad regardless of the rules. I didn't get my big birthday holiday this year and I have had a really shit 2020 not just due to Covid so I really deserve a better 2021. Plus its his big birthday too. We might need to book 3 fucking weeks annual leave though - 1 week actual holiday, 2 weeks fucking quarantine Hmm

MissEliza · 09/12/2020 20:52

@randomsabreuse

It's ridiculous. Most of the main routes "through" East Dunbartonshire actually cross borders. You go through Glasgow between Torrance and Bearsden, North Lanarkshire between Lenzie and Bishopbriggs. Twechar might as well be in North Lanarkshire, kids from Milton of Campsie and Lennoxtown go to High School in Kilsyth (North Lanarkshire). Then Strathblane / Killearn (Stirlingshire) are very much commuter belt for Glasgow too, and very much need Glasgow/East Dunbartonshire for food shopping!
@randomsabreuse you have referenced so many of the places I know from growing up, you're making me feel homesick. I'd really love to go up to visit my df in the February half term but that seems very optimistic. God what NS will be up to then. Dh was saying we should have gone up there for Christmas but before the Xmas parole announcement, I didn't think all five of us would be able to sneak across the border! I think my df wants a change of scene anyway.
WouldBeGood · 09/12/2020 22:01

Here’s the SG justification for Edinburgh. Via Swinney, which might be telling

Tiers Of A Clown
WaxOnFeckOff · 09/12/2020 22:04

How much confidence do they need? It's a national disgrace this government. If I find out any of you vote for them in May, I'll be round to kick you up the arse. Joking not joking...

WouldBeGood · 09/12/2020 22:08

What with this and the refusal to guarantee women victims of sex offences female medical examiners hell will freeze over before I vote for them

titsbumfannythelot · 09/12/2020 22:09

Never have, never will.

WaxOnFeckOff · 09/12/2020 22:20

and allowing rapists who suddenly decide they identify as a woman access to female prisoners and staff. Women are about the only group not afforded any specific protection under the shitty hate crime bill. We could go on.

WouldBeGood · 09/12/2020 22:21

We could. What a shambles

Iwillneverbesatisfied · 09/12/2020 22:23

same here

never have, never will

WaxOnFeckOff · 09/12/2020 22:27

I shouldn't really be telling folk what they can vote so I take that back, but at least think about this stuff before voting :)

littlbrowndog · 09/12/2020 22:27

Yes wax. Exactly

titsbumfannythelot · 09/12/2020 22:28

Slight tangent here but it annoys the hell out of me when people assume I vote Tory because I can't stand the SNP.

As if we're so effing pedestrian, those are the only options
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littlbrowndog · 09/12/2020 22:32

To the SG on the sex v gender for women.

They are total wankers. It was six words.