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Thread 946....

I had measles as a child although I was fully vaccinated. I was delirious at one point but recovered quite quickly.

Looks like I was wrong on the measles one. Thanks for correcting me.

Looking at the whole of society I think is where Boris has handled it better then Nicola. Eat out to help out, opening softplays, even the Christmas arrangements, and travel, people need things to look forward too.

Google tells me measles was added to the vaccination program in 1968.

i'm mid fifties @Dinnafashyersel so that would make sense. :)

What is that round/oval scar that loads folk have on their upper arm from a childhood vaccination? I don't have that though i do have a bcg one and a few scars from presumably measles spots. My DM thought i never had anything else such as chicken pox but then I was one of 7 so she was a bit sketchy about who'd had what. DH swears he never had chicken pox but has been tested as immune, also from a larger family.

I'd have had it around 1969 I think. I'm fairly sure I missed nursery but then it might have been play group which starts younger. I remember meeting my nursery teacher at a bus stop once i'd got to the stage of leaving the house and I was really shy as I hadn't seen her in ages, according to my DM she on the other hand was horrified at the state of me compared to the chubby rosy cheeked bairn she was used to.

If they have decided to prioritise another group instead they should come clean about that and make their case, rather than poor excuses about the logistics being too hard when it could be done if there was the will.

Yes, agree with this. Though they could prioritise care home carers through hubs and still be in accordance with their order of priority. I confess I'm a little confused with why the (presumably youngish and healthyish) carers are in the same group as the residents... I understand if they get ill then they risk spreading it to the residents, not to mention the current difficulties with isolating carers etc if they test positive. But if the vaccine just prevents serious illness, rather than any illness/ passing on the virus asymptomatically, I can't see why those same issues wouldn't apply. Though I'm sure the JCVI know what they're doing!

I remember getting mumps at age 3 or 4 as I wasn't vaccinated against it, as I was pre- MMR. My mum had to collect me from a "playdate" (or "going round for tea", as it was called then) as I'd entirely lost my appetite, which isn't me at all, and had gone all floppy. I then spectacularly vomited over the sofa . I remember being furious as, despite presumably feeling grim, I hadn't had time to play with my friend's dolls... Don't remember being invited again after that. The actual illness was totally unmemorable.

I know the vaccine you mean that has left scars on older people. I think it might be TB but I'm really not sure.
My TB has left a white bump. But I'm not even sure if TB jag was a national one or due to an outbreak in my high school.

my older siblings have it and many of my friends but I don't, I think this is what my mum was referring to maybe - who knows now

Yes, I think it was TB... that was given to children in late primary (?) up until about 2000 I think (in England at least, not sure about Scotland). From memory it was done in 2 stages, so there was a single injection/ test, and if you reacted to that you didn't need the BCG. I think the actual injection was done with a sort of 9 pronged mega needle though maybe I'm imagining that. That was the playground story, anyway. I think I must have been off for the actual vaccination as I remember the first bit, but not the second, and I don't have a scar. Maybe I should ask my mum.

Waxon could it be the smallpox vaccine it was apparently given in the UK between 1853 and 1971?
My minds blown again at the number of years it was given.

NotanActualSheep this is on the rationale for prioritising healthcare staff.

unherd.com/thepost/healthcare-workers-are-the-first-piece-of-the-vaccine-jigsaw/

Sheep the TB was done with an test on your forearm then the jag about a week later.
I had it in high school around 1987 but as I say I'm not sure if it was routine, or purely because of an outbreak in the school. It was a single needle but left a small scar.

However that's not to say they didn't use multi needles before that.

It was the BCG for TB

There was a six needle test first to see if you’d been exposed, then the vaccine if necessary.

[quote Dinnafashyersel]NotanActualSheep this is on the rationale for prioritising healthcare staff.

unherd.com/thepost/healthcare-workers-are-the-first-piece-of-the-vaccine-jigsaw/[/quote]
That's interesting, thanks dinnafash! I understand that it's important to keep carers and NHS staff safe...and of course they should be high up the priority list. I was just confused why the carers were linked with the care home residents, and ahead of the rest of the front line NHS workers, if the "reasoning" behind their vaccination was the same (i.e they are more at risk than the rest of the population because of their jobs, and it is important to keep them healthy to ensure they can continue to keep the vulnerable people they care for safe).

bikingbear yes, that's about the time I would have had it, though I think it was in late primary for me. I doubt there was an outbreak in school... though being in a city we did have quite a few pupils moving from countries with a higher prevalence, so it could have been that they prioritised certain areas?

yep, had the BCG, it was like a stamp with needles in your forearm and then you got the injection if the circle faded? Can't remember now.

Smallpox would fit then and if it was given at about age 3 then i'd have missed it due to having measles.

just googled images of the smallpox vaccine scar and that is definitely it, thanks :)

The bcg left a bugger of a scar for me.

I never got my bcg because the skin test reacted.

@titsbumfannythelot same here. I remember feeling very special and important because I didn’t need the BCG

NHS staff in our area are now able to phone for covid vaccine appts starting next week. I am hopeful this is the beginning of the end of these awful times. I am off tomorrow so my lovely colleague is going to do her best to get us booked in. To be fair to the powers that be ( for once in my life) I am impressed with the speed at which this is going ahead. There will be lots of teething problems for sure but so glad the process is starting.

I hope you get sorted quickly then @Alittlewornout

Alittlewornout - it truly is amazing how much energy and effort has gone into the vaccine. Yes they'll be teething problems but it would be odd if there wasn't.

I know people like a good winge about the NHS but my experience is when you REALLY need it, its absolutely amazing. I count my lucky stars we have it.

Hope so too, and all my fab colleagues in hospital and community who want it. I am particularly relieved as my DH was shielding so have been really anxious about bringing it home to him.

I don't have any BCG scar - should I have one? Everyone else I know seems to still have a scar or a mark.

I got mumps when I was a kid, early 80s, did they not do the MMR back then? I guess not. I remember it well. It wasn't fun. Cheek all puffy.

It seems care homes are getting the vaccine after all this month.

I don't have a bcg scar either, but I definitely had the vaccination. Maybe we were just very good and didn't scratch or something

I was lucky enough not to need the BCG as the original test didn't react. My sister (born 1954) has a raised lump at the top of her arm that was a result of what was referred to as "the vaccination" but not sure what that was for.