What COVID restrictions are heading our way?

[Happylittlethoughts]

Nivola not best pleased today, and rightly do . Any ideas on what the,restrictions will be? I know schools are being warned at LA level to prep for blended learning .
A 2 week limitation?

myrtle - whist we have no idea of the next scheme to be put in place, at the moment the restrictions relate to going in other peoples houses. I'm guessing you'd be looking at some walking about sightseeing and maybe dinner and overnight stay? At the moment that is all still possible. Need a mask for public transport, shops and going to and from tables in restaurants.

Sorry Jodri but you're wrong. Take France for example- huge jump in cases and deaths- daily cases are increasing at 13 per cent and have a 7 per cent fatality rate. 150 / 200 deaths per day. Hospitals are struggling to cope again.

France's latest 7 day average deaths is 62, was over 150 yesterday. This is the time of year when we expect daily deaths to start rising regardless. I don't have any data on how this is being calculated etc.

@Scotslassie1 I was looking at these graphs from worldometer deaths seem a lot smaller even though cases have risen.

@myrtleWilson dd is in final year at Glasgow and I'm from there tho now live in north Scotland.
As Wax says cafes/restaurants still open and still possible to book accommodation in the city.
If checking out Uni of Glasgow go for somewhere in West End - can recommend Albion Hotel,Belmont hotel or Argyll hotel - have stayed in all 3.
If looking at Strathclyde or Caledonian you'd be better in City Centre. Premier Inn at George Sq is well located. If parking is a consideration then Premier at Pacific Quay is a decent bet. In any case walk or use subway to get a feel for the city.
Wishing you and your dd well.

I see what you mean Jodri ( re the graphs). Second wave is hitting France and Spain and other countries though with deaths increasing again. Time will tell if it's as bad as the first.

@Scotslassie1

COVID 19 does not have a 7% mortality rate. All the estimates are around 0.5% and possibly even lower.

Thanks so much reads wax and lassie - very much appreciated!

Ivor Cummins in his video talks of excessive deaths in 2018, I think, and you can see countries with high near to normal excessive deaths In this period had lower deaths from Covid 19; conversely those countries with lower excessive deaths had higher deaths from Covid 19. Obviously, this will not be the only factor in determining deaths from Covid 19.

Happy to help @myrtleWilson. Glasgow is a great city and I loved living there and I'm pleased my dd also is enjoying living and studying there so always keen to encourage more people to discover it.

Big increase in cases today and unfortunately cases now seem to be on the rise across the country.

IMO much stronger measures should have been implemented in Glasgow and Lanarkshire weeks ago to stop the virus spreading elsewhere.

People have been in and out of Glasgow for leisure purposes which should not have been happening. Cases have been low in most areas for a long time so the spread has come from Glasgow imo.

I agree @Ecosse I know that they said that targeting people going in each other's homes was the focus in Glasgow but Aberdeen got a travel restriction slapped on even though the outbreak was hospitality based. Why was there no such travel restriction placed on Glasgow?

it's all so nightmarish - even if they'd slapped more draconian local lockdowns on faster, it may not necessarily have controlled the spreads as rules are only one factor...

I'd really love more updates about the progress of the vaccine trials as I can't see a proper way out of this without that.

Cases have been low virtually everywhere outside Glasgow and Lanarkshire until very recently- even Lothian was not reporting many cases at all.

Cases now seem to be rising everywhere from a low base. This will be at least partly as a result of people being in an out of Glasgow.

Cases on the increase, but who is ill? So tired of asking this over and over. Even the young people who brought it back from Greece have not been seriously ill or admitted to hospital. Nobody 65+ is going to house parties. I do not know anyone who isn’t wearing masks, keeping distance, no mixing households- other than school who’ve been back over a month, so no impact here. We have no cases here, why should we be punished for compliance? Last December I was dismissed by a GP as ‘having a bad virus’ when I could hardly breathe and stop a hideous lingering cough- nobody gave a flying fig then about admitting me to hospital or taking a swab to confirm which viral strain I had, I just had to get on with life, so I took time off work and recovered. There’s been a horrific mismanagement of this situation, which a further lockdown will not eliminate, we must get the tools from government to live our lives with this virus, not with continuous restrictions on our day to day lives.

Here here bytheloch It's all soundbites and anything that can be said to keep people in fear . I don't know where a bit of perspective in the government is going to come from. They are all sacred of getting it wrong but they've already got it wrong. Given it's now over 6 months since this started, the only option seem to be doing what we did before.

I found the bbc infection rate in your post code / county search.
Mine was 2 per 100 000 by comparison Glasgow was 56 per 100 000 the average for Scotland was 16 per 100 000

Governments anywhere can’t win - you’re either callously risking people dying or you don’t care about the financial, educational and long term health impacts.

I’d put money on historical hindsight saying the 24:7 nature of social and other media having a hand in whipping up constant hysteria has been hugely unhelpful.

So many updates, so much data available to people and i can’t see the benefit - are we better off?

Mine was 2 per 100 000 by comparison Glasgow was 56 per 100 000 the average for Scotland was 16 per 100 000

Same here. Will be exceedingly unhappy if the restrictions are applied across the country.

Yeah I see where you are coming from @anon444887. I agree it’s difficult decisions for governments to make but its their job to make difficult decisions. I think social media is here to stay and freedom of information and data is vital for accountability and hopefully any lessons to be learned.

I honestly don't understand the idea that the government are deliberately whipping up fear.

Do you not recall the thousands of excess deaths, the doctors and nurses crying ...

It's as if it's all bullshit because it's calmed down. It calmed down because everything closed. Now everything is open and cases are of course going to build and build.

I genuinely don't get it!

If you go on coronavstats it says 10 per cent fatality rate for the UK. I assume that means that 10 per cent of those that test positive die?

This will be hugely skewed because only the very sickest were tested in the first wave.

The real fatality rate will be much lower.

Social media is doubtless not going anywhere, and freedom of information is vital - the downside I’ve seen is that twitter and 24 hour news cycles mean people expect frequent, significant updates whereas really, it’s been 6 months and for all the words expended we could’ve had far fewer briefings.

People don’t understand the data or research they’re seeing - countries aren’t measuring cases, deaths or testing the same way.

I don’t think govt is whipping up fear, more that there is much information out there that is poorly understood and poorly contextualised - statisticians, epidemiologists, medics etc will be arguing about this for years after all.

@sonicbook but can cases really build and build and build now that we are socially distancing/wearing masks/ have no gatherings etc? Surely these measures already in place have to help prevent the problems we had earlier in the year?