What COVID restrictions are heading our way?

[Happylittlethoughts]

Nivola not best pleased today, and rightly do . Any ideas on what the,restrictions will be? I know schools are being warned at LA level to prep for blended learning .
A 2 week limitation?

Ok, Let’s not start that debate again. Would love to know we can all unite- just a bit- even if our leaders can’t. If we’re about to plunge into another period of lockdown, we’re going to have to pull each other through it. Governments may be asking us to snitch on our neighbours, but I hope we’re all a bit more supportive than that within our communities over the winter months. 😞

Why should we unite under that shit show? No thanks.

Bytheloch you're getting confused with the English Gov- they've been vocal in asking the public to snitch on their neighbours. The Scottish Government haven't.
That being said, I wouldn't take kindly to my neighbours having a party. No longer seeing my parents at September weekend which would be second time this year - work in a school, they're both high risk and self catering cancelled (prob due to my postcode even though I've not been to a pub/ restaurant/ not had anyone in my house).

Bytheloch you're getting confused with the English Gov

No, bytheloch knows there isn't an "English Gov"

Have you managed to find the stats on the age of covid hospital admissions you were talking about?

Go through your beloved ScotGov archives, you’ll find NS did in fact ask people to report to the police, adding that people shouldn’t try to handle any situation themselves.

If you look on the various FB groups for Scotland, you’ll find several (authenticated) stories where people have dutifully followed NS instructions to snitch on their neighbours. Depressing stuff.

We can unite in common sense and

I work in a school nursery. Recent team meeting had our line manager join us to ensure we know the protocol on sickness or isolation.

So if you need to isolate we need to inform her exactly why we are isolating so we have symptoms and are poorly and need a test. We are isolating due to being in contact or a member of our household is ill. If this is the case and we are well enough to work, the head will then contact us to organise our work from home work. In these cases there is a covid supply budget.

Off sick for any other reason then they will follow the usual protocol.

I'd hate to lose my week off in October due to a lockdown but you never know.

I'm not sure how work from home will go.

WaxOn believe it or not, I don't need to find stats on something because a stranger on the internet asked me to. If you want to find out what the 1 in 5 in hosp being under 45 equates to in numbers, find it yourself.

Ah Bytheloch, telling people to phone the police instead of going round themselves is quite different to the Patel 's advise to snitch on your neighbour....

@WaxOnFeckOff

Bytheloch you're getting confused with the English Gov

No, bytheloch knows there isn't an "English Gov"

Have you managed to find the stats on the age of covid hospital admissions you were talking about?

Looks like this article may have the figures in question: www.heraldscotland.com/news/18732601.coronavirus-younger-scots-make-fifth-new-covid-hospital-admissions/

"Over the initial phase of the pandemic, up until August 5, people aged 45 and under accounted for just 526 (9%) of the 5953 Covid admissions.

These were individuals who had tested positive on, or within the 14 days prior to, hospital admission.

The data is therefore unaffected by recent changes to how hospital patients with Covid are counted.

However, in the four weeks to September 9 - the last date for which data is available - people aged under 45 accounted for 15 (21%) of the 70 new Covid admissions.

These included nine patients aged 25 to 44, as well as two teenagers between the ages of 15 and 19, one person aged 20 to 24, and three patients aged from infants to 14 years old.

There were also two admissions to intensive care for Covid patients aged 15 to 44. "

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WaxOn believe it or not, I don't need to find stats on something because a stranger on the internet asked me to. If you want to find out what the 1 in 5 in hosp being under 45 equates to in numbers, find it yourself.

Ah Bytheloch, telling people to phone the police instead of going round themselves is quite different to the Patel 's advise to snitch on your neighbour....

No need to get on the defensive, you quoted some figures and I asked you where you got them from, I don't think that's an unreasonable request

I think it's important when you start bandying about figures that you have some basis for them/fact check them. Especially when they could make lots of people worried.

Thanks conkers

I know they have done some work on the figures but these still don't show those who are ill from Covid, just people who tested positive in the 14 days prior, they could still have been admitted for other reasons such as an accident etc. I would expect the figures to be more across the board now to be honest just based on normal summer into autumn admissions where there might naturally be less elderly admissions.

It's certainly something to watch but I think we still need better information and more of it.

I think it's important when you start bandying about figures that you have some basis for them/fact check them.

I did. You asked for further info not where the statistic came from.

Yep, lets get into semantics. You could have said, here's where i got the info from or I got the info from the herald and there were no more details.

Are you MumofHunter?

Sick of the governments creating panic and mass hysteria whatever happened to a calm and common sense approach, is that too much to ask! At the end of the day most people have followed guidelines for months now and for what? Numbers are low in hospitals and deaths thank goodness and hopefully stay that way. And as we have been told it's working through a younger demographic who generally have it mild and surely if you are unwell you stay away from people, vulnerable, elderly or otherwise. How hard can it be to do that? So sick of this. Rant over...

Seemingly Jeane Freeman is now saying that the new restrictions will be in place for 6 months. This madness has to stop.

news.stv.tv/politics/new-coronavirus-restrictions-could-last-six-months?fbclid=IwAR1YPc7V_6iJ8CfCVbF6DQsgPnGMWcMD_KeYdr9ImPrfTrJpo729mbcajzg

The six months figure came from Downing Street. Freeman was asked if Scotland is looking at the same time frame and said that it's realistic but no decisions have been made.

Maybe wait and see what is announced before deciding it's madness.

If you disregard the political rhetoric the restrictions in Scotland and England have been broadly the same. Reopening was a bit more cautious and slow up north, but only by a few weeks. In some cases, like keeping office workers at home, they were smarter and in some cases, like the Spain quarantine, they seemed very chaotic.

I expect more of the same, broadly similar restrictions with a few Scottish tweaks and lots of noise on how we're doing better.

Looking at today’s figures, again the vast majority of cases are in Glasgow and Lanarkshire.

Stronger action should have been taken in these areas weeks ago and people should not have been travelling in and out of Glasgow for leisure.

It is Sturgeon’s inaction and reluctance to upset her heartlands that is going to lead to national restrictions.

I am not prepared to be put in the hideous situation of trying to home school a 6 year old and try and do my job as well. it was difficult enough earlier in the year and it was my mental health and wellbeing that has been effected. The fucking government took the piss out of 'non-essential' working parents expecting us to work and pay our taxes and be teacher as well. Lots of other groups got support - those shielding, those who had businesses / self-employed, those furloughed. We were just forgotten about and expected to get on with it. I will be reviewing my options

That's why I think it will cover at least part of the October holidays so that they can say schools are not being closed.

Yep, bring in the measures say by end of this week/start of next, most of us break up on the 9th- we already get two weeks, guessing others may have an extra week added on. Be proud to claim they haven’t shut schools. (*perhaps a boast for the side of a bus come April?)
Today’s soundbite of getting the virus under control is ominous given that most of Glasgow and surrounds already has restrictions in place, I figure the rest of us will be subject to being telt later this week and harsher rules. If there’s any sort of travel mileage restriction introduced, she’ll feel the wrath of many prospective voters, so what to do🤷‍♀️

Marvellous. So we can't get away to see my 80 year old MIL in October who lives in England who shielding for months on her own and is a bit fragile at the moment. It's fucking nuts it really is. Why is the government panicking? The nhs is not overwhelmed - far from it. Cases are going up but that's hardly a surprise when they opened lots of things up quickly and confused everyone with all the rules. It would've been so much easier to say - keep 2 metres away at all times and use your common sense.

And good luck with getting the virus under control. It's a remarkably successful virus in many ways.

Indeed, the virus will be informed it’s half term and NS will telt it too, it will then take a wee break from terrorising us, only to resume when we all go back to school (and probably around Halloween, for no specific reason other than the children might walk in groups of more than three people, having fun - as the virus can count young people too, obviously)

There's a thread here discussing a leaked document.

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The bitterness on this thread is astounding. So tiresome.

I also love how certain people believe they know better than qualified, knowledgeable experts.

People spouting medical/ public health disinformation should be forced to end their posts with what their actual job is.

I'm so fed up of all this. Went back to school a week early and will have worked 9 weeks before October holidays. We've booked a whole 3 nights away and will be mightily pissed off if I can't go,

Some areas have one week in October, some have two and they're not all at the same time so a closure of schools won't work.