2 households

[Rae36]

I'm a bit sad about the change to only 2 households meeting up. For the past few weeks since the kids have been back at school I've met 2 friends once a week to eat lunch. We're all working from home, we just take an hour off in a Monday, bring our lunch and eat it together in someone's garden. It's been so nice. And now we can't any more.
And I think this is us for the winter, isn't it?

It should be same as in England or at least 3 households

Such a pain. It’s all going to be counter productive as the more restrictive the rules are the less people will comply and the infections will go up. There were already people on the news saying the fine is a price worth paying. She just doesn’t want to be seen as being less strict than Boris.

@user1487194234

I suspect the 6 person limit will be law but hopefully the 2 ludicrous 2 household limit will remain guidance only.

Ok ,yes that's the sort of mixed message they love
The question was about 2 student DC coming home from Uni at the same time making 3 households,so who knows

I should probably not have switched him of !!

@user1487194234 it was me that raised that point earlier in the thread. And also if we visit them in the next few weeks technically we shouldn't see them together but could see them separately on the same day?? Ie take one for lunch and one for dinner??? As I said before I think not. As its guidance, I will continue to exercise my common sense in the absence of any for those in political power.

Sorry should have read in the absence of any FROM those in political power.!

Yes sorry I meant it was the ? they asked JS
It's a shambles x

It’s ridiculous. I’ve been meeting up with my two best friends in the park with our wee ones in buggies for a while now and it’s kept me sane. I think we’re just going to continue tbh. We can assess the minuscule risk ourselves.

I am upset because im pregnant and my husband can't come into scans with me or be in hospital with us after the birth, but people can go to the pub. How does that make sense?!

It's nonsense. I could potentially meet 21 different households and however many people that is in total throughout a week but can't get together with two friends once a week for a cuppa, a few drinks or a walk in the park. Why am I being penalised when I've done everything right. I've not been to the pub. I've been to one restaurant. I've barely gone to the shops. My weekly get together with my friends is the one thing making this tolerable and that's been taken away.

My mum is in the same boat. She meets her two sisters on a Saturday for a couple hours. Pre covid they went to the shops and had lunch out. Now they go to one of my aunts houses every week as shes the only one that has a big enough living room for them to sit 2m apart. She's 74 and this is the only thing that's she's been doing in the last few months apart from a weekly shop in Aldi and her daily walks. Why is that more risky than going out to the garden centres every day like some of her friends do for afternoon tea with a different friend every day?

Or just join a gym and as many of you as want to can pile into the jacuzzi less than a metre apart to have a catch up. Certainly this is my experience of the new gym I've joined - and here's me thinking of of the upsides to covid might be not being squeezed in beside ramdomers in the hot tub.

Will just have to tell DS to give a false name if stopped playing football, or claim that it was an organised activity.

From the bbc news page...maybe backtracking the rules for under 12s

However, she said that the government is seeking “additional expert advice” to see if children could be exempt from the two household rule.
This would allow children's birthday parties to go ahead as long as adults comply with the rules.

I think soloula, from reading the guidance, that if your mother lives on her own and forms an extended household with another household, then this would just count as one. So she could do this with another sister, and then also meet another sister. Different if none of them live alone though.

Yeah she said about parties being looked at in the briefing there. Tbh I don't really care about birthday parties. I have a soon to be 7year old and soon to be 5 year old and they both understand that it's crap but they won't be getting parties this year but will be getting a different but still very special birthday. However I dread having to tell them that they can't play outside with the kids they've been sitting inside a pokey classroom with all day at school. I know NS says that there are trade offs but surely kids health should be at the forefront of these decisions. To put it nicely there are so many chubby wee kids at school after being stuck in for months with lockdown and now they're being told not to go out and play with friends and run about and get fit and shed those wee lockdown bellies. It's ridiculous.

It seems clear to me that the big issue in terms of cases (although hospital admissions and deaths are still low/ non existent) is Glasgow and surrounding areas.

Why is Sturgeon not closing hospitality venues and instituting travel restrictions in the West of Scotland as happened in Aberdeen?

Surely this would be much more proportionate than imposing the harshest restrictions on Europe on everywhere else that has low or no cases!

@thereplycamefromanchorage thanks but unfortunately none of them live alone. My mum lives with my dad and my disabled brother and this was her one wee escape for a few hours a week.

Hi @Invisimamma you can still go ahead. I have heard from my son's party venue (outdoors) and of the children are under 12 and the parents drop off then all fine.

I've written to my MSP this morning. This is just horrendous. There is zero nuance in the Scottish Government's approach, much less problem solving.

Although we're in Lanarkshire and from the tone of the briefing today it seems like this might all be a moot point for us. Sounds very much like watch this space later today. I'm so fucking done with all this.

Just sent my eldest back to Uni Halls. Rules and regs coming out her ears to prevent any meaningful human contact ever. Otoh they have managed to organise the dining room such that she has to queue for over an hour with all and sundry.

Her desk felt so sorry for her it tried to give her a hug so now she has a massive bruise on her knee. Pretty definite I will hug her in person when I see her, whatever the rules.

I've got 2 at different Scottish Unis and follow the Uni social media pages just to touch base. Just about hurling bricks at NS giving all the International students a big Scottish welcome. Unbelievably dishonest to have waited for them all to return with the carrot of as much normality as possible with some precautionary easing in via remote lectures and then announce all this.

@Ecosse well that's the puzzling thing really.

I mean local lockdowns are of course shit for those in the area, but surely make more sense than country wide restrictions, particularly on outdoor gatherings which until now had been seen as low risk. It's clear that keeping money making venues open is the priority, but then this disruption to our lives is going to go on ad infinitum.

I'm just hoping we never get back to the situation where you couldn't meet one friend outside. I found that so hard.

@Dinnafashyersel

I feel so sorry for the DC starting uni this year. It was going to be difficult enough for them as it was, but now they won’t even be able to go for a coffee or drink with 2 friends from their course!

@aquamarine1 at risk of outing myself, I tweeted Jason Leitch and he was very clear that the 2 household limit still applies to under 12s and the party would be breaking the rules, even if no adults stay.

@Invisimamma

It may well breach the ‘guidance’ but the Scottish Government website seems clear so far that the household limit is ‘advice’ rather than a rule.

I feel so sorry for the kids starting uni and college. Higher education isn't just about learning, it's about finding yourself, making new friends and starting on a new pathway. I was an awkward kid that got picked on in school. I went to uni and I flourished. How do they do that with no freshers activities, zoom lectures, face masks for face to face interactions. I feel so sad for them. They are the ones that I think will be most affected by this, finishing their studies with a really deflated job market too.

@Invisimamma ah ok. Our venue are going ahead. Hope you get something sorted.

Absolutely Ecosse. My DD1 is fortunate to be in her 3rd year and so already has established friendships both on her course and socially. DD2 is starting first year and I am very glad she is staying at home and still has a support network - it took most of first year for her sister to establish herself when she went away in normal times.