Glasgow, East Renfrewshire and West Dumbartonshire restrictions

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53989021

@SusansSassySidePony, so we are all supposed to have the same view and expressing that yours might be different to someone elses is therefore sabotage?

Why don't you ask for a SNPnet if you don't want other views? We are allowed to be Scottish and not support the SNP, although it obviously doesn't feel like it most of the time.

If it's an echo chamber you want I am sure there are other places that would provide that.

We don't quite have the thought police here but it's not for want of trying

Personally I post on lots of different sections of MNet and I post often in other threads in Scotsnet and try to help folk out, yet apparently I am anti scottish and out to sabotage everything.

If people didn't treat some threads as the nation service for misinformation, then other posters wouldn't need to respond.

Newmama... well said.
I passed a Gregg's today. 20 teenagers gathered outside. No social distancing. But us adults are being controlled.

Nope, the Barnett formula was created to appease Scots on the back of the McCrone report which found that an independent Scotland would have " an embarrassment of riches."

Instead, Scotland's wealth has been used to 'underwrite the UK's failure to balance the books in the UK for decades' (Alasdair Darling quote / admission there).

@Scotslassie1

Nope, the Barnett formula was created to appease Scots on the back of the McCrone report which found that an independent Scotland would have " an embarrassment of riches." Instead, Scotland's wealth has been used to 'underwrite the UK's failure to balance the books in the UK for decades' (Alasdair Darling quote / admission there).

No, that's gobshite. Is it also there to appease the Northern Irish and Welsh?

Exactly why would an independent Scotland have had an embarrasment of riches? And what Scotland's wealth?

If you are referring to oil, that was never Scotland's. How would you feel if they'd stuck oil off the coast of Kent and English folk decided it was theirs and in the UK just kept it for themselves?

DH was in gartnavel hospital for work today and a distinct lack of masks being worn by anyone.

And I'm not writing misinformation (earlier post also had several posters saying I was wrong re family being able to provide essential childcare during lockdown) and was only responding to a pp saying things which are 'misinformation ' to use your term- such as that NS has put a lockdown in place to detract from the GERS figures when her party in fact actively publicise and publish.

I didn't accuse you specifically of misinformation.

As for actively publishing and publicising the GERS figures. The are government figures and they are currently the government, so they bloody should be publicising the figures, why are we expected to be cheering them on for actually doing what they are paid for? Someone in another thread thought that we should be really happy that they'd built a road and a bridge - well again, they are the government and are supposed to complete national works, so again, doing a bit of their job.

The government in power (whovere they are) should always be facing challenge and questionning, there is something far wrong if the population all sit there saying what a lovely job everyone is doing, or being scared to speak out and make robust challenge. That is sort of every citizens job no?

*which her party..

Again those aren't my words, they're from Professor McCrone..

If the UK decided to invest the money from oil and create an investment fund that would be absolutely fine WaxOn.

If Scotland used England's oil money to balance our books whilst mis managing the economy and allowing huge tax breaks to companies owned by friends of the FM, I'd fully expect people living in England to be angry and want independence from the UK.

I'm not saying anyone should be cheering the gov for publishing GERS.

The pp said the FM has imposed measures in Glasgow/ East Ren and West Dumbartonshire to deflect from the GERS.

If the UK decided to invest the money from oil and create an investment fund that would be absolutely fine WaxOn.

Well, we are part of the UK that didn't. We'd all love to live with hindsight. Then we would be able to do things like not release infected people into care homes and many other things. I'm not for one second saying that anyone has got this exactly right, i'm a floating voter and I think everyone majorly stuffed up. Some of those mistakes were very avoidable though.

If Scotland used England's oil money to balance our books whilst mis managing the economy and allowing huge tax breaks to companies owned by friends of the FM, I'd fully expect people living in England to be angry and want independence from the UK.

But Scotland is using Englands money so I'm not sure what the point is? Scotland receives more money back than it pays in - it's really not any more complicated than that. We overspend more than we contribute just to provide what we have now and yet SNP are promising that we will be better?

@WaxOnFeckOff

DH was in gartnavel hospital for work today and a distinct lack of masks being worn by anyone.

That's surprising. I work in a city centre department store that had almost everyone wearing masks today.

It's all smoke and mirrors. I don't think it was done to deflect from GERS, that's like trying cover up a full body tattoo with a band aid... :o

That's surprising. I work in a city centre department store that had almost everyone wearing masks today.

Yeah he was surprised as well, very different to the rest of the hospitals he's generally in. However, most don't even have covid wards anymore.

I was in a town i'm not usually in on Monday and walked past one of those "bargain" type shops and no staff (no screens) and very few customers were wearing a mask.

I don't go in shops anymore as a rule, i've been doing click and collect since the mask tule came in. I've popped in for the occasional loaf and milk and locally, most folk seem to be fully masked up - well apart from their nose peeping over the top.

Scotland isn't using England's money. We're not gifted anything. Times are hard at the moment and we may not have a surplus but we do not receive any gifts of money from England. It is only a loan taken out on our behalf, which we'll pay back with interest and which we most likely would nlt have needed if we were independent and able to save for harder times as other countries do.

If Scotland were to be independent, it would start off a richer country than the rest of the UK and be the 14th richest in the world ( higher than the UK).

I'm sorry, but can you please link to where you are getting these figures?

How is Scotland going to be saving for a rainy day as an independent country if we can't already live within our means?

When people say it’s only guidance kt kind of makes me mad. It’s not law because they don’t want to make everything against the law but when they say guidance they really mean do it !!!

I think there will be an economic reason for pubs etc not closing but as people have said things are different in your own home and therefore more relaxed and also depend on the size and no of people visiting your Home.

we campaigned to get Scotsnet

It was me, and me alone, under an old username, who got Scotsnet created. there was no 'we'. Just ignore the threads you don't like. shrug

I really had to laugh at this:

If Scotland were to be independent, it would start off a richer country than the rest of the UK and be the 14th richest in the world ( higher than the UK).

Its widely reported that Scotland would have at least 10y of austerity measures, worse than we had under the Cameron government, to be able to afford independence. But it will all be okay in the end, won't it?

I'm getting increasingly fed up with the pro/anti independence bickering on Scotsnet.

Every thread seems to get derailed by this topic & descends in to bickering.

It's just ruining the section.

@GlassOfProsecco

I'm getting increasingly fed up with the pro/anti independence bickering on Scotsnet.

Every thread seems to get derailed by this topic & descends in to bickering.

It's just ruining the section.

Me too.

This thread was about COVID restrictions.

Boris Johnson brought in COVID restrictions to areas in England too ffs.

The virus doesn't care about pro/anti independence !!

Not saying it's not an important topic, but yes every thread seems to descend into it. I value Scotland based COVID chat.

Maybe we could have a specific sub-topic for independence stuff??

I agree. Obviously politics has relevance to this topic, but the thread has been derailed.

It has and apologies for that, I was responding to pp re Wee Nippy/ GERS/ Salmond etc etc...

I won't again.

If they want people to help out with Contact tracing then they need to generate a culture where they feel they can say they’ve been at a house party. Instead of making anybody that has a house party or has attended one can’t admit to it, that it’s their own fault for going, therefore they deserve coronavirus! People just won’t get tested. That’s what’s going to help stop spreading it. Not continually locking us all down!

I suppose it’s that the SNP are the government in Scotland so it’s them making policy decisions, hence it’s them to be pissed off with if you don’t agree.

Same as it’s the Tories in England.

I think they’re all awful.