Glasgow, East Renfrewshire and West Dumbartonshire restrictions

[Ginger1982]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53989021

Because sitting meekly and obeying blindly everything you're told to do by the government without question is even more fucking nuts.

Hulll-ooooo. Mr Coronavirus. Hope you're listening. We're going to be politically active and disobey. Hope you're taking note and stop spreading. Ta very much.

I am in Renfrewshire and my parents in ED. I have barely seen them for months and now I can’t even sit in their house for a cup of tea. I have and will comply with all of this “for the greater good”. Fuck off with calling me “selfish”. You have some fucking cheek.

But we are controlling it! Have you seen how few hospital admissions there are? People know what to do to avoid getting it, and to avoid passing it on.

But this whole no visiting people, ever, until some mythical point in the future, is just shite. And we're allowed to complain about it - loudly - because 2020 is the pits. I really hate this attitude that we just have to grin and bear everything thrown at us because Covid.

People with mental health problems, or who are lonely and housebound, or who just want to meet a friend for a coffee at home can get fucked. Because covid.

@chocciechocface

Because sitting meekly and obeying blindly everything you're told to do by the government without question is even more fucking nuts.

Hulll-ooooo. Mr Coronavirus. Hope you're listening. We're going to be politically active and disobey. Hope you're taking note and stop spreading. Ta very much.

Don’t be so childish. It is actually allowed to question decisions made by the elected government. In fact it’s part of a healthy democracy. If you don’t like it, I’m sure you could move to North Korea.

I didn't call you selfish - if that was addressed to me. But you did say you wouldn't comply: "I’ll comply with that but I won’t be isolating if someone else in the house is identified as a contact like they introduced in the other areas."

@chocciechocface

I didn't call you selfish - if that was addressed to me. But you did say you wouldn't comply: "I’ll comply with that but I won’t be isolating if someone else in the house is identified as a contact like they introduced in the other areas."

I guess everyone has their red line - that is mine. It doesn’t make any sense. Either household members of contacts need to isolate or they don’t. Ever changing goalposts doesn’t exactly instil confidence.

honestly, what's the fucking point? No one is really listening.

There’s more to life than frantically and hopelessly trying to avoid a pretty non deadly virus.

@chocciechocface

I didn't call you selfish - if that was addressed to me. But you did say you wouldn't comply: "I’ll comply with that but I won’t be isolating if someone else in the house is identified as a contact like they introduced in the other areas."

It was to whatever cheeky bastard called me selfish, not you

You can question as much as you like. But your opinion isn't equivalent to someone else's years of public health training. If 'questioning' is saying 'I refuse to comply', then that has to come with accountability for the cases rises that follow and the deaths too.

FWIW, I do come from a country where people are jailed for their opinions so I probably know more about the value of democracy than you do. My sister's view on it recently, when I spoke to her about these sort of stances was "I'm so sick and tired of the first world and their privileged attitudes".

In my country, people are complying because there isn't a health system and they understand the real cost.

In this country, holy fuck ... "we can do what we like and we're good citizens if we do so and 'it'll a be reet '. "

I haven’t “done what I like” for 6 months 🤷🏼‍♀️

@WouldBeGood

There’s more to life than frantically and hopelessly trying to avoid a pretty non deadly virus.

And the governments of the world all secretly colluded in perfect unanimity to crash their economies over a non-deadly virus. All of them.

But you know better.

@MadameBlobby

I haven’t “done what I like” for 6 months 🤷🏼‍♀️

I believe you. But you DO have your red line at which point you are prepared to ignore advice do what you like.

I'm going to do exactly what I am asked to do, whether I u defat and it if not.

Not because I'm a sheep; not because I'm politically obtuse; but because I am NOT qualified to determine whether a public health experts guidance is garbage or not. Most people on Facebook and Mumsnet are not experts.

And I am not prepared to be complicit in more people dying, or society shutting down again.

🤷‍♀️

@BritInScotland

honestly, what's the fucking point? No one is really listening.

Exactly.

The bams who have been having house parties are still going to be having house parties. Because they are bams who don't care what the rules are. This is going to make no difference.

But let's stop Jeannie in Milngavie going to visit her elderly mum, and Sue in Paisley going to see her friend who's struggling with post natal depression. That'll do the trick.

As with everything the people who don’t give a shit and haven’t been complying with the rules so far won’t start to do so, so it remains to be seen what effect any of this will have anyway. I won’t hold my breath.

@MadameBlobby

As with everything the people who don’t give a shit and haven’t been complying with the rules so far won’t start to do so, so it remains to be seen what effect any of this will have anyway. I won’t hold my breath.

That is always going to be the case. And I really hope they're heavily fined etc.

But for society to stay open, it relies on the rest of us to not be arseholes. Hopefully there are enough of us to mitigate the morons.

I believe you. But you DO have your red line at which point you are prepared to ignore advice do what you like.

I didn’t say I would “do what I like”. But we’ve both been out of work for months due to the pandemic and only just started being able to earn money again. We need to earn money. I was made redundant in May and can’t risk losing a job when no one in the house even has any symptoms and I’ve not been a close contact. And I’d be complying with all the the rules that have been in place for months, just not this latest amendment. All these stupid rules are going to do is cause more hardship and misery to the people who follow them whilst the house party crew carry on merrily not giving a shit.

Let’s just hope it’s a moot point and none of us end up contacts.

@MadameBlobby

I believe you. But you DO have your red line at which point you are prepared to ignore advice do what you like.

I didn’t say I would “do what I like”. But we’ve both been out of work for months due to the pandemic and only just started being able to earn money again. We need to earn money. I was made redundant in May and can’t risk losing a job when no one in the house even has any symptoms and I’ve not been a close contact. And I’d be complying with all the the rules that have been in place for months, just not this latest amendment. All these stupid rules are going to do is cause more hardship and misery to the people who follow them whilst the house party crew carry on merrily not giving a shit.

Let’s just hope it’s a moot point and none of us end up contacts.

It truly sucks. I know. I'm not minimising that.

But these rules (or 'roolz' for some in the thread), are about trying to keep things as open as possible. Precisely so we can all get back to doing what we need to do.

This idea that the virus is totally in control because hospitals are empty really bothers me. The virus spreads exponentially. EXPONENTIALLY. A few cases today could be thousands and thousands in a couple of days.

You wouldn't look at a bush fire in a dry grassy area and say, 'it's ok, it's just a tiny little fire, no need to take action'. Same thing, IMO.

I get all that which is why I have complied with every rule religiously. But I need to feed and clothe my family and for that I need to hang onto the job I was lucky to get in a pandemic in the first place. I’m not sure when needing to feed and clothe one’s kids and trying to avoid poverty and claiming benefits became “selfish” or the only thing that people think is important is Covid.

@SockYarn couldn’t agree more. Why has the majority to suffer because of the actions of the minority?

Why aren’t we imposing severe fines on everyone hosting and attending these parties which were already above what is permissible?

For me this won’t be any real hardship as I haven’t had anyone really in or been in anyone’s anyway but some people will be hit hard.

@BritInScotland

honestly, what's the fucking point? No one is really listening.

I am. I was supposed to go and visit my friend's new baby this weekend but cancelled. We were meant to be visiting SIL this weekend and cancelled that too. I just hope someone knows what they're doing. Especially as I work in a school and come into contact with 1300+ people regularly...

At the start it was reasonable and we were asked to stay at home to Protect the NHS. Fair enough.

But now things are very different. Even the Government publishes a paper months ago downgrading the virus’ status.

Fewer than 1% die. 450 people a day die of cancer.

I’m no Covid denier but measures need to be proportionate.

Covid no longer a high consequence disease Government status

It can have some really nasty post viral symptoms though. I've a friend who has been horrendously ill, loads of neurological symptoms, similar to stroke, loads of gastric symptoms. She's really not well at all, and doctors don't believe she'll be better any time soon. And that's not uncommon. A lot of people who are classed as 'recovered' are anything but. I used to have the 'feck it, I'll get it and recover' attitude, but these cases do concern me.