Is Nicola Sturgeon being too cautious now

[frasersmummy]

Listening to her briefing it sounds like there will be no easing of restrictions until the schools are back and settled

With infections at such a low rate should we not be getting back to something closer to normal?

People are losing their jobs every day and she doesnt seem bothered

What does everyone else think?

Well...but it is in the fabric of public life. We can make some decisions about public health, but not as many as we really want to. We can't borrow money to, for example, create a furlough scheme tailored to our needs. So yes, of course independence is a factor in how we respond to the pandemic, and therefore discussions about it.

Hi All, I came onto this area of the site to ask a specific question about Nicola Sturgeon's comments re: the increased restrictions in some areas of Northern England and noticed that it had been mentioned on this thread. We're in one of the areas included and currently have DSS 16 and MIL staying with us, they normally live in Livingston & Ayrshire respectively, both here since before the extra restrictions were introduced.
When I read the reports in the various news sites on Friday she seemed to be quoted as stopping short of recommending quarantine when returning from visiting but @britINscotland has said that this is actually the case.............is there a link somewhere to confirm?
We're concerned about DSS's ability to go back into school if quarantine is required. TIA

She advised people who have visited these areas (or are coming here from those areas) to minimise their contact with other people. I would assume this includes your MIL and SS. Anyone who experiences symptoms is to get tested obviously.

TheonlyMrsW - would you not want them to quarantine, for the sake of all the people they will be mixing with? I keep hearing how the virus (and hence the risk) is so low here, but it doesn't take many cases of people returning from visits and holidays to make it go up again

I would assume anyone coming from somewhere there has been an outbreak in Scotland would also be similarly requested to take care?

Yes. We must all start voluntarily taking sensible precautions if coming from an area with an outbreak. That’s why it’s important to publicise where outbreaks are amd stop whining about patient confidentiality etc

There is a difference between being careful and following guidance which we have anyway and actual quarantine, that's why I was looking for the clarification. Whilst we're in the area which has been deemed higher risk, there are very few cases - think 27 per 100,000 - and so I don't think that MIL or DSS should quarantine if it's not part of the guidance. Thank you for helping

I'm a recently moved English person in Scotland. DH and I both have posh southern English accents (generic private school type), DD has a strong west mids twang. We live in East Dunbartonshire, have done tonnes of walking (no big honeypots except Ben Lomond and that was on an ok rather than good weather day).

We have had no negative attention for our accents, probably because we have been avoiding the honeypots.

Was also fine during my little sojourn at the Glasgow Royal Infirmary last week, much curiousity about the exact origin of my accent (guesses included Surrey) but no negative sentiment. Didn't mean I could understand a word the porters were saying though!

At the end of last week there were 140 positive tests in Scotland. So a figure of 27 per 10000 seems high to me (if I'm doing the maths right - which I may not be!)

nearly 1000 overall in the UK today.

Is 140 cases not a lot less than 27 per 100000? Is is not nearer 3? There are 54 100000s in the population so does 140 /54 not give you the figure? Or can I really not count?!

@randomsabreuse - I am in East Dun as well. You hear lots of accents from all over the world round this way. Lots of staff working at the QEUH, the vet school and the Unis live here.

We were out at Loch Lomond today - busy, but most people outside and trying to keep their distance.

Senga so then we have a lot fewer cases than the area the dsd is returning from - straight into a classroom.
I wonder if I do the usual "do anything nice in the holidays?" will any students come out with very recent trips to Spain with their family?! (And can I send them home if so)

TheOnly they could get a test once home, then the 16yr old should know before going to school?

Mistress I've just been doing work for next week. Can't believe it's so soon and cases are going up again.

We were at Loch Lomond last week - I found it uncomfortably busy, I have to say. Food stands where people were not wearing masks, handling money and so on. I know the risk is less outside but I still won’t be back in a hurry.

We were going to visit Anstruther yesterday, got there and it was so busy we drove right out again.

I am sick to death of all of this, ESPECIALLY the daily “tellings” from Little Hitola.

There’s currently an infectious pool of around 300 people in Scotland’s population of 5.5 million.

If you really think you’re going to catch coronavirus from handling cash from a food stand at Loch Lomond I feel very sorry for you. Live your life - or what we have left of it before even more of our civil liberties are stolen from us.

@TheMurk well said.

I have had coronavirus and have still got chest pain and fatigue five months on - so I will give the handling cash at Loch Lomond a miss. Feel sorry
for me if you like, I feel like I lost three months of my life being very ill so I don’t want it again 🤷🏻‍♀️

Doesn’t take long for it to explode again.

Let’s not make the same mistake we made in March.

Asymptomatic transmission, you know?

@KatySun goodness, if you think you’re going to catch it twice I feel even more sorry for you! The MSM really has done a number on you.

@KatySun I was there also, and I commented on how busy it was, and how bad the social distancing / lack of face masks was, only to get jumped on by other posters just like you have been. You can't voice a simple observation on a thread anymore.

I feel sorry for your struggle. I lost my aunt to Covid 19 and my DHs boss had it and is still struggling with the effects of it. yet some people think that if they don't know anyone who has had it then it can't exist

Why go somewhere that is patently going to be very busy when there’s nothing else for people to do?

These places are busy during normal times. When everything indoor is shut or restricted where else can people go?

You can tell when you enter the car park how busy somewhere is going to be, if you find it so stressful why not turn around and go home?

Or did you want everyone else to stay at home so that you could go and enjoy yourselves in peace?

We’ve been told to go on holiday in Scotland and enjoy it- nothing indoors is open, what else is there for people to do?

You won’t catch it outdoors anyway 🤷‍♀️

There are so many beautiful places around that it really isn't necessary to go to rammed obvious honeypots! There's so many places around the Campsies and slightly further north into the Trossachs that I do not understand the appeal of crowded, obvious places.

We've done "stuff" pretty well every fine week/day DH has had off, and the only place that was remotely busy was Ben Lomond (car park nearly full) and even there it was easy to spread out on the hill (and everyone was giving everyone else space really sensibly).

We've only been in the area 4 months and can work out options - and have gone for plan B and C if somewhere looks really busy, not that we've ever liked busy beauty spots even before Covid!