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CV in Scotland

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LizzieMacQueen · 05/03/2020 09:20

(This probably will get moved to the CV topic but thought I'd start one in Scotsnet anyway).

Does anyone have info as to where the Scottish cases are and whether these are 'community gained' or direct exposure from a Cat 1/2 place.

Any thoughts on the impact for our youngsters due to sit SQA exams next month?

My DS is in his highers year. 2 emails from school last week suggesting self isolation for kids returning from Italian holidays in half term but quiet since then.

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JKScot4 · 17/03/2020 09:16

@LizzieMacQueen
I’d shop where you can, I went to 4 shops on Sunday just to get a normal shop, just bern to Asda at 8.45am and there’s no fresh meat, veg, cleaning items, toilet roll.

SamSeabornforPresident · 17/03/2020 11:09

I've done an online shop at Sainsbury's, to be delivered halfway through next week and every time I've gone online to amend it there's about £15 of stuff gone out of stock. So all the gf pasta is gone, chicken is gone, baby food is very limited - the only pouches I can buy are the strawberry and apple ones. Funnily enough I think my 'there's no way this will be delivered' packet of paracetamol is holding on.

Spongeface · 17/03/2020 11:09

Am the same as pp. I have the symptoms, feel miserable and have taken myself off for the week. Work in a care home so would like a test to be sure but don't think this would be appropriate , do you think so?

sowerehere · 17/03/2020 11:25

Spongeface I don't think they're offering testing to anyone unless they become really ill and/or end up in hospital. The resources aren't in place to allow for extensive testing. However, there was a mention of some GP testing and perhaps if you work in a care home you would be elligible but I'm not sure how you would go about organising it. I'm steering clear of phoning my GP surgery as I think they are saying contact NHS111 first but I'm not sure how that system is coping. I order my prescriptions online.

Sorry not much help.

Spongeface · 17/03/2020 11:31

@sowerehere thanks for the reply that's what I was thinking. I'm not unmanageable at home and have cold symptoms too so it may well just be that but who knows any more.
Very reluctant to call anyone as the strain must be huge on all the NHS.
Back to work after 7 days all going well them

Spongeface · 17/03/2020 11:31

*then

JKScot4 · 17/03/2020 11:32

Is anyone needing baby formula? A few shops near me have it, I’d be willing to buy and pass on anywhere in Central belt, I’m frequently in Glasgow too.

Aurea · 17/03/2020 14:00

Just found this thread. 😊

Just found out my teenage DS's best pal has had the symptoms since Sat. Temp, cough, achey etc. They were together all last week.

My DS seems fine. However just this morning (before I found out about his friend), my glands have swollen up and my chest unusually felt tight and a little painful when walking up a hill, dog walking. The chest pain/tightness is now constant although it is mild.

Should I be worried? Thx.

Itsmybirthdaytoday20 · 17/03/2020 14:41

I know health is most important thing first and foremost but how scary that so many of us could end up having to self isolate which no sick pay. Sick pay is obviously rubbish but it’s better than nothing!

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dementedpixie · 17/03/2020 17:45

That's North and South Lanarkshire shut gyms and cinemas and museums, etc. Glad I got a last gym class in today then!

WaxOnFeckOff · 17/03/2020 18:10

Aurea, I think it sounds like you may have it. Appropriate symptoms and contact with a known case. :(

Aurea · 17/03/2020 18:34

Thanks Wax.
Chest discomfort and tightness is now spreading to my upper back between my shoulder blades. It hurts a little when I take a deep breath. No temperature though so far and no cough. Throat a little lumpy and glands swollen in neck which is normal for me when I'm fighting something off.

If this is all it is, I will cope well. Better self isolate I guess along with my family.

Keep well everyone.

Aurea · 17/03/2020 18:36

The known case hasn't been officially tested though. He just presents typical symptoms of CV.

My son is the common factor and he is showing no symptoms. All v confusing.

prettybird · 17/03/2020 18:43

7 days self-isolation for you and your household from your 1st symptoms and then a further 7 days for the rest of the household even after you have completed the 7 days. Clock re-starting for the household to 14 days if anyone else then exhibits symptoms.

summerblues · 17/03/2020 18:45

I'm so confused, have symptoms and NHS 111 and my works HR document that came out yesterday advises self isolation for 7 days but my line manager said 14 days and UK government saying 14 days. NHS inform website hasn't updated their guidance since 13th march...

How long am i isolating for? Hmm

Minesabecks · 17/03/2020 18:58

Summer blues do you live alone? It seems to be 7 days for an individual, but if one person in a household gets a symptom it's 14 days.
If I've got that wrong I hope someone will correct me

dementedpixie · 17/03/2020 18:59

7 days for those with symptoms. 14 days for the rest of the household who may now be incubating it

prettybird · 17/03/2020 19:02

Easy way to think of it is 7 days if you live on your own or 14 days if with others. But the 14 days keeps re-starting if someone else in the household starts presenting with symptoms.

Guidance
conditions/infections-and-poisoning/ coronavirus-covid-19#stay-at-home-advice
Stay at home advice
This advice is for: •

Stay at home: guidance for households with
possible coronavirus (COVID-19) infection
Updated 16 March 2020
If you have a new continuous cough and/or a fever/high temperature, however
mild, stay at home for 7 days from the day your symptoms started. This will help to
protect others in your community while you’re infectious.
people with symptoms that may be caused by coronavirus (COVID-19), and
who do not require hospital treatment, who must remain at home until they
are well
those living in households with someone who shows symptoms that may be
caused by coronavirus (COVID-19)
Why staying at home is very important
It is very important that individuals with symptoms that may be due to coronavirus
(COVID-19) and their household members stay at home. Staying at home will help
control the spread of the virus to friends and others.
Those with symptoms who live alone should remain at home for 7 days after the
onset of their symptoms (see “ending self-isolation” below). This will reduce the
risk of you infecting others.
If you live with others, then the person who has symptoms of COVID-19 (new
continuous cough and/or fever/high temperature) should stay at home for 7 days
from the start of their symptoms and all other household members who don’t
develop any symptoms should stay at home for 14 days. The 14-day period starts
from the day illness began in the first person to become ill. If others in the
household develop symptoms within the 14 days, then they will need to stay at
home for 7 days from the day their symptoms began, even if this takes them over
the 14 day isolation period.
It is likely that people living within a household will infect each other or may
already be infected. Staying at home for 14 days will greatly reduce the overall
amount of infection the household could pass on to others in the
community. Staying at home may be difficult and frustrating, but there are things
that you can do to help make it easier.

What to consider
If you have to stay at home: •







If you have to stay at home for you shouldn’t go to work, school or public areas.
Avoid close contact with others by: •



plan ahead and ask others for help to make sure you can stay at home
successfully
ask your employer, friends and family to help you get the things you need to
stay at home
stay at least 2 metres (about 3 steps) away from other people in your home
whenever possible
sleep alone if possible
wash your hands with soap and water for 20 seconds regularly
stay away from the elderly and those with underlying health conditions as
much as possible
consider whether older people and those with underlying health conditions
can stay in another house while you need to stay at home
make sure that you keep in touch with friends and family over the phone or
through social media
What we mean by staying at home (self-isolating)
avoiding having visitors
not using taxis or public transport
asking a friend or neighbour to get your shopping or arranging for a delivery
to be left at your door
not sharing towels, clothes, toothbrushes or razors
You should also avoid kissing and having sex.
What you can do to help yourself get better
Drink water to keep yourself hydrated; you should drink enough during the day so your urine (pee) is a pale clear colour. You can use over-the-counter medications,
such as paracetamol, to help with some of your symptoms. Use these according
to the instructions on the packet or label and do not exceed the recommended
dose.
Wash your hands regularly
Wash your hands with soap and water for 20 seconds regularly and tell others in
your household to do the same. You can also use an alcohol-based hand sanitiser
if your hands aren’t visibly dirty.
Dry your hands using a separate towel from other people.
Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth.

Stay away from others
Separate yourself from other people in your home and keep the door closed. If
you can’t stay in a separate room, try to stay 2 metres (3 steps) away from the
other people.
Stay in a well-ventilated room with a window that can be opened. Try to keep the
window open as much as possible to help with ventilation and air flow. This will
help to keep clean air moving through your room.
Each person should: •


sleep in a different bed where possible
use their own toothbrushes, towels, linen, cups, plates, bowls and cutlery
take meals to their own room to eat
You can still use your garden as long as stay 2 metres (3 steps) away from other
people. If possible, each person should use the outside area separately.
Shared living spaces
Spend as little time as possible in your kitchen, bathrooms and sitting areas and
keep these areas well ventilated.
If you can, use a separate bathroom from the rest of the household. If you share a
kitchen, avoid using it while others are present.
If you share a toilet and bathroom, wipe any surfaces you come in contact and
clean it after every use with a household detergent that’s active against viruses
and bacteria.
Use a dishwasher if you have one. If you don’t have a dishwasher, wash your
plates and cutlery using washing up liquid and warm water, and dry them
thoroughly with a separate tea towel.
Collecting shopping and prescriptions
If possible, ask a friend, family member or delivery services to run errands on your
behalf.
Pharmacies can often arrange to deliver repeat prescriptions if you run out while
you remain at home. Other people can collect a prescription on your behalf.
Single parents
If you and your children live alone, follow our advice as best you can.
Children appear to be less severely affected by COVID-19. If your child develops
symptoms, they need to stay at home for 7 days from the onset of their symptoms.
Taking children to school
As long as your children have no symptoms of COVID-19, however mild, they can
still go to school.
If possible, ask a friend or family member to drop them off and pick them up from
school,

If you live with an older, vulnerable or pregnant person
If you live with an elderly, vulnerable or pregnant person keep following our advice
as best you can.
Minimise as much as possible the time any vulnerable family members spend in
shared spaces such as kitchens, bathrooms and sitting areas and keep shared
spaces well ventilated.
If you can, move any vulnerable individuals (such as the elderly and those with
underlying health conditions) out of your home, for the duration of the home
isolation period. If this is not possible, people with symptoms should stay away
from these vulnerable people as much as possible.
Breastfeeding
There is currently no evidence to suggest that the virus can be transmitted
through breast milk. Infection can be spread to the baby in the same way as to
anyone in close contact with you. The benefits of breastfeeding outweigh any
potential risks of transmission of the virus through breast milk or by being in close
contact; however, this will be an individual decision and can be discussed with
your midwife, health visitor or GP by telephone.
If you or a family member are feeding with formula or expressed milk, you should
sterilise the equipment carefully before each use. You should not share bottles or
a breast pump with someone else.
Late stages of pregnancy
If you think you are in labour, call your maternity unit and tell the call handler that
you think you are in labour and also that you are staying at home because of
symptoms of COVID-19 infection. They will be able to provide further information
and next steps.
Further information on the impacts of COVID-19 on pregnancy
Cleaning products
Clean all surfaces every day with a household cleaner that’s active against viruses
and bacteria. Pay special attention to frequently touched areas. Usual household
products like detergents and bleach are effective.
Wash your hands with soap and water after cleaning surfaces and handling
clothing and bedding.

Waste disposal
You can securely store personal waste (such as used tissues) and disposable
cleaning cloths within disposable rubbish bags. These should be: •



placed into another bag
tied securely
kept separate from other waste in your room
put aside for at least 72 hours before being putting in your usual external
household waste bin
Other household waste can be disposed of as normal.
Laundry
Don’t shake dirty laundry as this can spread the virus through the air.
Wash laundry using the highest temperature setting indicated on the garment care
label. Where possible, wash laundry separately from other people living in your
household.
If you don’t have a washing machine, wait a further 3 days after your isolation
period has ended to take your laundry to a launderette.
Medical or dental treatment
Everyone following ‘stay at home’ advice should postpone any non-essential
healthcare appointments including medical, dental or optician appointments.
If you’re concerned or have been asked to attend an appointment while you’ve to
stay at home, discuss this with your GP, local hospital or outpatient service using
the number they’ve provided.
Travel
As you have to stay at home you can’t travel. You can re-arrange your travel for a
date after you've self-isolated.
If you have travel insurance, contact your insurer and explain that you’ll not be
able to travel for health reasons.
Face masks
Face masks aren’t effective at preventing the spread of the infection.
They are important in clinical settings, such as hospitals, but there’s very little
evidence of their benefit outside these settings. However, if you have a carer you
may be asked to wear a mask to minimise the risk to them.

Looking after your wellbeing
Staying at home for a prolonged period of time can be difficult, frustrating and
lonely for some people and you may feel low.
It’s important to remember to take care of your mind as well as your body and to
get support if and when you need it. Stay in touch with family and friends over the
phone or on social media.
Think about things you can do during your time at home, such as cooking,
reading, online learning or watching films. If you feel well enough you can take
part in light exercise within your home or garden.
After staying at home (self-isolating)
The person who has had symptoms may end self-isolation after 7 days as long as
they feel better and no longer have a high temperature. The 7-day period starts
from the day when you first became ill, so you can return to your usual activities
on the 8th day.
If living with others, then household members who have had no symptoms may
end household-isolation after 14 days. The 14-day period starts from the day
illness began in the first person to become ill.
If any other family members become unwell during the 14-day household-isolation
period, they should follow the same advice i.e. after 7 days, if they feel better and
no longer have a high temperature, they can return to their normal routine. If
others in the household develop symptoms within the 14 days, then they will need
to stay at home for 7 days from the day their symptoms began, even if this takes
them over the 14 day isolation period.
If any ill person in the household has not had any signs of improvement after 7
days, they should contact their GP or NHS 24 (111).
When you are feeling better, remember that physical exercise can be good for
your wellbeing. Look for online classes or courses that can help you take light
exercise in your home.

CV in Scotland
summerblues · 17/03/2020 19:06

Thank you so much, it's me and my DP at home so will be 14 days then Sad

TheCanyon · 17/03/2020 19:15

Dh just been told everyone at his works hours have been cut, 200 room big function hotel sitting pretty much empty so could've been worse. Will close soon I imagine no more wine though for feck knows how long

Our school nursery kinda made me laugh today though. They sent out a notice that the kids were now to be dropped off and collected from outside the building. Right where all the p3/4 parents and kids line up so it will be jam packed, makes sense eh

WaxOnFeckOff · 17/03/2020 19:15

If a 2nd person gets it, the 14 days doesn't restart for person 3 onwards, they may have already had it but with no symptoms. However, if they then develop the symptoms then they have to start a 7 day isolation. It's not perfect but other than locking people in until they catch it, there isn't really anything foolproof.

If a new person enters the household during the 14 days, they will have to do 14 days from when they came home.

This is why we are hopefully trying to time DS2 coming home at the end of the initial 14 days which will work as long as someone else doesn't start symptoms of day 13.

Aurea, your son could very easily have caught it and passed it on with no symptoms. On the other hand you and his frined could have something completely different and not even the same as each other. Without testing we wont know.

I thought I might be offered a test to save DH who is an NHS worker from being stuck in and not working for 2 weeks if I didn't in fact have it (I think that is very slim though) but it's not that organised as too much else going on obvs.

I know the science behind it but still seems weird that I have it and could be back in society in 7 days but DH gets a fortnight off work and is fine and dandy. Jealous much! (not that he is happy about being off)

dementedpixie · 17/03/2020 19:16

The 14 days don't restart if you are still in the 14 day isolation. The person with symptoms isolates for 7 days. There was a big discussion about this yesterday

dementedpixie · 17/03/2020 19:18

Should a household member develop coronavirus symptoms late in the 14-day household-isolation period (for example, on day 13 or day 14)the isolation period does not need to be extended, but the person with the new symptoms has to stay at home for 7 days. The 14-day household-isolation period will have greatly reduced the overall amount of infection the rest of the household could pass on, and it is not necessary to re-start 14 days of isolation for the whole household. This will have provided a high level of community protection. Further isolation of members of this household will provide very little additional community protection.

At the end of the 14-day period, any family member who has not become unwell can leave household isolation