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Where are all my No-mates?

694 replies

HamletsSister · 13/03/2017 13:44

In despair. Absolutely in despair. Do we have to go through this again? And with such a long lead up to the referendum? Really? What happened to the settled will of the Scottish people?

@statisticallychallenged Will you help me get through this again? (Was Roseformeplease then).

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NoLotteryWinYet · 11/05/2017 13:36

amazed that there are seats in Edinburgh on the target list - Question Time is coming from Edinburgh today. Wondering who'll be on it. Also wondering what the hell is in the conservative manifesto other than allowing a free vote on fox hunting...

howabout · 11/05/2017 14:16

I don't think they are on the target list as such - that is just my crude analysis of the Council results split by ward and the noticeable differences in voter concentrations across seats.

I am hopeful the Labour manifesto will give them a bit of a boost in the West. I guess it very much depends how much trust they can generate between now and June.

flippinada · 11/05/2017 14:32

Edinburgh is going to be interesting

Yes, I think it will. I'm very surprised about the predicted vote for Edinburgh SW (my constituency) - I thought it was a safe seat for the SNP and previously it was a 2 house race between SNP and Labour. If the Conservatives win that will be a huge swing.

flippinada · 11/05/2017 14:32

House? I mean horse.

TinfoilHattie · 11/05/2017 14:39

Edinburgh was Conservative not so long ago - I grew up in Edinburgh East constituency which was always Labour, but Edinbrugh Pentlands was Malcolm Rifkind's old seat. I'm not surprised they're looking to get some of it back.

howabout · 11/05/2017 14:45

Joanna Cherry is a bit marmite and Alistair Darling was very popular. In 2015 SNP seem to have won by cannibalising the LibDem vote and I don't think that will happen this time. In 2010 the result order was Lab, Con, LibDem with SNP a distant 4th.

Just feeding my addiction here Grin

Wellthatsit · 11/05/2017 15:44

The Greens hae never made much impact in Falkirk howabout. I don't junk there's much scope for tactical voting either, but may worth if lots of people did it, just to get a feeling of a groundswell of support for one single party as an opposition.

Has anyone had any election leaflets yet? We have had an SNP one, nothing else.

Wellthatsit · 11/05/2017 15:45

Incidentally, my DS is also a US citizen, although the States is notcurrently somewhere you would want to retreat to if all goes tits up here, is it?

WankersHacksandThieves · 11/05/2017 15:51

jury still out on Stirling

Well, can the jury get a shift on? I need to know who to vote for... :o

StatisticallyChallenged · 11/05/2017 15:52

Edinburgh also has Ruth Davidson milling about a lot - her seat covers Stockbridge and new town which is a big chunk of that edinburgh north seat.

Edinburgh South West seat is a very mixed bag - some very wealthy suburbs, but also wester hailes and sighthill. It's a hard one to read but anecdotally it's my mum's area - and the one I grew up in - and she says she knows a large number of older labour voters who are heading for Tory. It might depend heavily on how much the younger, more heavily independence voting element in places like wester hailes actually vote.

flippinada · 11/05/2017 16:56

Yes, that's very true about Edinburgh Pentlands/South West, Malcolm Rifkind lost the seat in 1997, didn't he. It's a very mixed bag with some very deprived and conversely, some very wealthy areas.

I've never lived in such a politically interesting constituency before!

flippinada · 11/05/2017 16:59

I can well believe that about older voters, Statistically.

I believe the turnout is often lower in deprived areas (do correct me if I'm wrong) so that may also have an impact.

StatisticallyChallenged · 11/05/2017 17:10

I think that's the case re turnout , yes. I think registrations are lower too - so turnout is lower than it appears iyswim?

flippinada · 11/05/2017 17:12

Yes I do.

Also, older voters are more likely to go out and.. well.. vote, aren't they?

howabout · 11/05/2017 18:49

Wankers assuming the objective is anyone but SNP then the tactical vote is Con based on locals, last Holyrood and current opinion polling for Lab / Con swing. The jury is out on whether it will be enough. Smile

Wellthat DD1 was so put off by Hillary she is still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt - we were there during the whole "dress" impeachment saga so may be slightly biased. The most worrying thing from my pov is how much more polarised everything political has become since we lived there.

WankersHacksandThieves · 11/05/2017 19:04

That's what I was thinking howabout.

Is this an 18 and over vote still?

howabout · 11/05/2017 20:46

18 and over much to my 16 year old's disgust.

WankersHacksandThieves · 11/05/2017 20:53

DS1 at 16 probably isn't too bothered but from my pov he is really easily influenced and that might have been another vote against the dark side... :o

Ds2 still only 15 so a while to go yet. He does have very strong views of his own. He's a Labour party member Wink

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/05/2017 00:52

What about Edinburgh West? I hope the SNP suffer from having foisted Michelle Thomson on it. Could Tories take it back? It was another seat they lost in 1997.

Bejazzled · 12/05/2017 01:16

Well I did not enjoy QT tonight. Again with the booing and jeering when there was an opinion agin the nationalist agenda. Very very worrying that this all kicks off like last time.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/05/2017 01:25

I could not face watching it.

howabout · 12/05/2017 08:37

Edinburgh West was a clear win for the LibDem in the council elections and that is what it was from 1997 to 2015, so it looks to be going back to them.

QT was indeed a sorry affair last night.

howabout · 12/05/2017 08:44

Just checked wiki. LibDem only just lost to the SNP in 2015 in Ed W. They were also very strong challengers to the Con throughout the 80s before taking the seat in 1997 so it does look to be a strong LibDem prospect.

StatisticallyChallenged · 12/05/2017 08:50

Sounds like the risk there is the anti snp vote being massively split between Tory and lib dems

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/05/2017 09:07

I think so. In my ward Conservative were miles ahead of Lib Dem, The order was Conservative, SNP, Labour then Lib Dem