To ask how Scottish Indyref1 NO voters are feeling about it today?

[StatisticallyChallenged]

I was just chatting with DH about the possibility of a second Indyref whilst watching the news and I wondered how those who voted no in 2014 are feeling now?

Cards on the table, for those who weren't on the Indyref threads, I was a strong no voter and campaigner last time. I work in financial services (have changed company since) and I had huge concerns about the impact on the economy of a No vote - all the issues around currency etc. I also found a lot of the campaign arguments very unconvincing and like we were being promised the moon which could never materialise.

I still feel that way about the last referendum. But I have to admit that watching the news today, seeing people proudly declaring they voted out because of immigrants...this isn't a country which currently reflects me. I still have massive concerns about the economy although it's a lot less clear cut given the likely turmoil over the next few years.

I'm well aware that an independent Scotland may have huge issues getting in to the EU btw, it's not so much about the EU membership but about feeling a bit less affinity with being 'British' today.

I voted remain and no and would vote no again in any future Independance vote ( I hate the term Indyref).
Very disappointed with Nicola Sturgeon being unable to wait even til lunchtime to climb back on her Independance soapbox, she jumped on the results of the EU vote in Scotland as being decisive ( cause she liked the result) as supposed to her not accepting the results of the Independance vote, are we going to have the cost and upset of repeated votes until she gets the result she wants?
We live in a democracy surely, we had the EU vote it didn't go the way I wanted but I have to accept the outcome, it should be the same for Independance the majority voted no, end of.

I voted no and would still vote no.

I think I'd still end up voting no because that's most likely what the facts and the economics will support and I'm a very rational analytical kind of person. But last time my heart agreed with my head - I have never seen Scotland as being all that different from the rest of the UK so I had none of the intuitive desire for independence which a lot of people feel. I still don't have that feeling but I am not loving the uk much just now.

I don't like indyref but it's a quick shorthand

Oh and go away with the immature fear arguments. I was part of a crowd of Scots on here who debated and discussed the referendum long and hard before hand and I didn't make any sort of knee jerk fear based reaction. Most no voters didn't - but we couldn't point out any negatives which absolutely did exist without being labeled chickens.

I believe that with the circumstances and plan we had in 2014 I was right to vote no. I don't remotely regret that vote- I just wanted to discuss how people felt now.

I'm in London so no vote in 2014 ref, I'm a from northern England in fact, but I was glad Scotland stayed. However, I wouldn't blame them for trying to get another referendum and going for independence after this result. A few of us in our office joked about moving to Scotland if that happened, although it wasn't much of a joke, it's probably a good idea. London is in shock and it's utterly terrifying, Scotland may benefits hugely if they can spilt and remain in the EU.

That idiot Nicola can call as many Indy Ref as she wants more than half this country want to remain part of the U.K.

All she is doing is pushing her own agenda, and not representing the people like she claims. Very angry at her mere suggestions of Indy 2. What happened to the once in a life time vote. Democracy spoke and the flipping SNP should respect that.

I already know of many YES voters who would vote NO this time round after the yes lies were uncovered

Not to mention all there eggs were in the $100 a barrel oil basket and now it hardly goes above $40 and the oh so great oil capital of Europe Aberdeen is in utter economic meltdown and is never going to recover fully.

Us Scots aren't daft you know. We aren't going anywhere.

Fuck stat - if you are considering a yes we are totally screwed!

I actually feel the same as you - v v strong no last time and would definitely still be a no as it would be economic suicide to go it alone (currency, doubtful membership to eu, oil prices - there is no question it would be disastrous). However I am also feeling furious and disenfranchised and if we could afford it id be a yes.

I no longer feel British (despite Anglo/Scottish parents). This really saddens my folks .

Also may I say I'm a bit infuriated by all the "checking out jobs in Scotland" on fb statuses from my friends in England who have no idea about the horrendous, divisive time indyref1 was. It seems to totally belittle how gruelling it was (and would be again) - as If Scotland is some kind of utopia.

Having said which it was so nice to all be on the same side of gutted in the playground yesterday, unlike last time...

I voted yes last time, my OH voted a very strong no. In fact here were tensions in the home last time as he was so pro unionist.

Last night he brought up the subject and told me he will vote yes this time. He would "rather be ruled by Brussels than London".

I think there will be a huge knee jerk and then people will realise that there is no money and not the real appetite (that there seems to be in the immediate aftermath) for another indyref.

Strongly no last time. Totally horrified by yesterday's outcome. Now think would be yes which was unthinkable for me, if we could stay in Europe. Have always felt very British. Heart sore at the while situation.

It seems to be forgotten that 1million Scots voted leave - with a 62/3% turnout so not as high as elsewhere. So a lot of Scots agree that the EU is not some golden goose or utopia.

I voted no, remain and would more than likely vote no again. As I said earlier I have a fundamental distrust of the SNP and think their record so far in Holyrood is really quite poor. But I would listen more carefully to what's being promised. I just don't think they will improve on their position from last time, I don't see their value to the EU - The economy is perormong very badly this year and unless we see oil recording to historic highs the North Sea is in terminal decline with huge job losses (of high earners so a big impact on not only the direct tax income but also indirect from fewer house/car sales, spending less money etc)

Performing and rebounding. Argh!

I was a very firm No last time. First thing yesterday morning I was so despairing of the result thought I would vote Yes next time. Since Nicola's announcement all the old questions about currency post independence came back. We wouldn't join the Euro and the idea of using sterling without having any control over it is madness in my view.

I don't want to leave the EU and I now think that we might not. It's already unravelling. How many regretful protest Leavers are there? Will the GE that probably will be held when the Tories have a new leader, be fought on the basis that that if you vote Labour, Green, SNP etc, then the referendum result won't be implemented? I don't think Gove and Johnson thought leave would win.

I think a second EU referendum could be run at the same time as a GE.

I voted NO to independence and REMAIN to the EU.

It's far too early to say how I would vote in Indy Ref two. The economic situation has changed, oil prices are through the floor, and the situation with the UK/EU/Scotland will not be made clear for a long time. Yet again there are no guarantees that we would be able to just stay while the rest of the UK left, I wouldn't want the Euro and I still think our ties with England/Wales/N Ireland are closer than with the rest of Europe.

Last time I was 100% NO. There was never even a teeny flicker of doubt. At the moment I'm 75% NO. Who knows how that will change in the future?

Cedric I think you've explained what I'm feeling pretty well - last time round the economic facts aligned with how I felt about the UK whereas right now there's more of a disconnect

I think it's hard to say how a second ref would go. There are definitely some yes voters who have realised that the snp economic case was, frankly, pish. But on the flip side there will be no voters and soft yes voters who are influenced more by heart than head. Plus I think it depends what happens between now and then in terms of government and economy, and EU discussions. I reckon Nicola would be a lot more canny this time about trying to ensure that there was a clear position on EU membership and it's possible that she might find that easier to acquire this time round as London will have fuck all influence. If we end up with a more traditionally right wing tory leadership, tanking economy and then there's some sort of EU option available - maybe not full membership but perhaps a Swiss or Norwegian option - then a lot of people might be tempted to jump I think.

I'd be surprised if there was a GE between now and exit unless the tories elect a remained like Theresa may. I think boris would just forge on ahead

There's a specific topic for this ---->

I voted No and as none of my issues have been addressed to make want to vote yes I feel torn.
I voted Remain but cannot see how Britain can stay as the UK. It is no longer united. I am resigned to Scotland and NI going it alone and all of Britain being economically fucked.

I am wondering too when the dissolution of the Monarchy will happen. They have no place in the new climate of change and dissolution.

Bugger off with the board policing, I deliberately didn't post on Scotnet or politics because I was hoping to catch some of those posters who I actually enjoyed discussing the referendum with. I think the topic is pretty clear from the title so skim on past.

I did wonder about the monarchy and whether they'd be hit next. I think that's got a way to go yet though.

I voted no in indyref and I think I would still vote no in the event of another indyref. I think we'll all
Need to wait and see how we're affected by eu withdrawal. For all we know it might be fine

Scotland doesn't meet the criteria to join the EU. Scotland don't have a good economy. In 2014 oil was about $110 a barrel, it's now about $30-40.

The FTSE didn't plunge, it's higher than it was in February! So much scaremongering at the moment.

I voted no and then remain and would vote no again.

I voted no in then independence referendum and Remain on Thursday. I'm not an SNP supporter, but I think Nicola Sturgeon's speech was great yesterday - and given the SNP manifesto pledge, and their large mandate, they have to bring forward the possibility of another referendum. I hated the last one, it was hugely divisive. Having said that, I'll almost certainly vote yes this time. Despite the levels of uncertainty making it all pretty much guesswork, I think Scotland would be better off as part of the EU than the UK. I respect both points of view though.

I remember your thread from last time StatisticallyChallenged. I was undecided for a long time and kept changing position. It was reading all the very well presented information and links on your thread that finally persuaded me to vote No. I still think that was the right decision at the time.
I think now is not the right time to hold another Independence referendum. I think yesterday's result may have very wide reaching effects and destabilise the EU considerably with other countries possibly also voting to leave. I would much rather be in the EU than out but not if it does start to disintegrate.
I am very sad and worried for the future

I voted no and remain.

I am now worried about the domino effect and the breakdown of the EU, what if we leave the UK and in 25 years the EU is no more.