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It seems DH is plotting to secretly meet an old GF while on a business trip. WWYD?

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CoteDAzur · 08/06/2010 14:14

He hasn't breathed a word about this to me and it sounds like a rather romantic date.

WWYD?

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vertigo · 10/06/2010 14:52

sorry - paranoia attack that I had compromised my new found evidence with recognisable to ex-P in search (if he was as searchy as me)

hello again in a different way.

CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 14:57

WhenwillIfeelnormal - No need for "an unusual take on fidelity" to see that up until this point, everything can be explained in an innocent light: It was a coincidence that she would be there to visit a relative, they would just meet for a quick dinner and have a chat, her divorce was painful and she needs a friend to talk to, etc. Nothing wrong with any of that, is there honey? Of course I would tell you, and anyway, I didn't realize you would be upset

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IsGraceAvailable · 10/06/2010 15:12

I disagree. You have firm knowledge that - following renewed correspondence - he did arrange to meet her on a trip, which he hasn't mentioned to you and appears not to exist.

Your thread has prompted me to review some of the things that happened in my marriages. The extreme emotional pain I suffered was caused by my wanting to believe the best, not jump to conclusions, etc etc. Had I taken the stance - as I would now - that deliberate secrecy is, itself, signal enough that the relationship is harming me, then I would have suffered less. And I would have been right.

Though I completely understand the desire to know more, to get proof, etc, I agree with WWIFN and BA. The existing deceit is sufficient insult to your trust and love. Doesn't matter how it's explained (or not). It's happened.

abedelia · 10/06/2010 15:30

point I want to make is that we are all agreed that he has done enough to warrant trouble. But will he see that??? much quicker to take it to a point where he is caught red handed so has no wriggle room for denial. personally I'd book a sitter (if you can afford a PI you can get an emergency nanny for the night...) or even take kids with you and check into another room so you can do the PI'ing yourself. Or get a friend to go.

Some men just don't think they've done anything wrong until physical contact occurs. And if he's deluding himself it is all innocent he will resent you for spoiling his 'friendship' for quite a while till he sees the light.

slushy06 · 10/06/2010 15:37

I am so sorry you are going through this cote I would hire a pi personally either way it sorts the problem if it is innocent you will know you can trust him, if it is not you will know you can't.

He may be innocently meeting up for a chat and been hoodwinked into this the only way to know for sure is with a pi. I say this because personally even considering it and lying to me would be enough to break the trust.

noddyholder · 10/06/2010 15:52

He is definitely planning a secret meeting with an ex to whom he lent money in the past without your consent/approval.i think you are giving him too much benefit of the doubt.You are his wife and he is decieving you.

CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 16:19

I don't think he sent her money. Since I hold all of our accounts, the only way he could do so would be to send company funds which would require explanation.

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poodie · 10/06/2010 16:33

Sory - didn't mean to imply you anything derogatory about your behaviour, just sometimes I worry that women especially can over-obsess about partner's behaviour to the extent that it can drive them further away.

If you feel are feeling seriously upset about this whole thing surely the best approach would be a frank discussion with your partner so he can understand that the way he is behaving is upsetting you.

The choice is then his - you have made him realise that if he takes this further, he will be eroding the relationship even more to the extent that it may become irreparable.

Communication has to be better than snooping and sneaking, surely? I just know that I would never, ever take a step like hiring a detective. I would find it degrading for everyone involved including myself and I would resent paying money to someone who makes a living in such a manner.

If I strongly suspected a long term affair which I was not prepared to put up with, then I would confront him personally. His behaviour at this point would tell me a lot about whether I wanted to make a go of the relationship. If he continued to lie or, worse, make out that I was crazy, that would be a deal-breaker for me as it would add insult to injury. If he was suitably contrite then I might be prepared to give the benefit of the doubt and make a go of the relationship.

How he responds to your upset is surely the key here?

CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 20:29

DH has arranged a romantic evening on a boat next weekend, with drinks and music.

He really does not feel like someone preparing to cheat. Or maybe he "got cold feet"?

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MortaIWombat · 10/06/2010 20:35

Sorry to jump in, but have been lurking and reading with interest (and great respectful for your calmness!). He doesn't know you post on MN, does he? Just wondering... it could explain the boating trip. Otherwise, I'd agree, it doesn't sound like he's got his mind on someone else. Best of luck with it. Fwiw, I'd do the p.i. thing, for my own peace of mind, if I had suspicions and scanty evidence.

ComedyOfErrors · 10/06/2010 21:10

Or perhaps the (possible) OW posts on MN.. she has children IIRC.

It's the 'cold feet' comment I find particularly suspicious. Cold feet over what exactly.?

Cote, what might you think / do if he doesn't end up going away next week.

secunda · 10/06/2010 21:24

Just want to jump in again and say -
you say you believe that he paid for her plane tickets to this city, but there is no way you can know this. You are just going on the fact that she's skint, but she might not be that skint or she might unavoidably have to go to the city for other reasons. You said you are only reading what she sends him, not his answers. I really think it's difficult to make a judgment about his intentions if you haven't seen what he wrote

I still think it could be innocent, but as others have said it's easy to get sucked in (if he has innocent intentions but she hasn't, e.g.) to doing the wrong thing. So I still think you should tell him you know, and I reckon you have a really good chance of him getting a wake-up call about what he's risking.

CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 21:26

DH knows about MN but has never taken an interest in it. I don't think he knows my nickname here.

Wannabe-OW lives on the other side of the world and has no connection to the UK so I wouldn't think that she would be a MNer. Then again, I'm not English and I don't live in the UK yet here I am, so you never know.

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CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 21:34

"Cold feet" remark is nagging at me, as well. Asked in a flirty way, with a smiley, as well.

If he doesn't go away next week, I will assume that he called off the rdv for the time being for whatever reason but can quite possibly reschedule. So I will be hyper-vigilant.

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CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 21:37

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vertigo · 10/06/2010 21:40

Cote - a thought -

Would you feel comfortable/are you able to enter his fb account and check his side of the replies?

Could well settle your mind?

vertigo · 10/06/2010 21:40

Cote - a thought -

Would you feel comfortable/are you able to enter his fb account and check his side of the replies?

Could well settle your mind?

CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 21:41

I would have to guess his password.

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KerryMumbles · 10/06/2010 21:42

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CoteDAzur · 10/06/2010 21:52

Kerry, that was great advice

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bronze · 10/06/2010 22:00

kerry you sly dog

Cote I've been following this bu thave no wise words. I just hope you're ok whatever happens and however you deal with it all

PurpleLostPrincess · 10/06/2010 22:02

Do you have access to his email? Maybe you could do the 'forgot password' thing and get the password that way?

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