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Found out some brutal stuff

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wrinklyraisin · 06/02/2010 11:46

Over the last year I have found out from family member loads of things I didn't know about my mother. The main thing being she squirrelled away most of our child support payments (amounting to way over 75k) and is now living off that in a foreign country. All of her children are now adults.

After our parents divorced, our father bought a house outright for us to live in. Then the courts ordered he pay a substantial sum to mum each month for us. He earned a lot so we got a lot of maintenance. BUT from the age of 11 to 18 I have few memories of being allowed to buy new clothes, we had to wear second hand shop clothes, we had no holidays, no school trips, cheap food... meanwhile our mother took up several expensive habits, and complained to us all the time that our father NEVER paid maintenance thus we had to suffer and to blame HIM not her. She bworked very very part time so I know ashe never earned enough to fund her lifestyle at that time.

Since then I have seen court documents, bank statements and solicitors letters. So I know for a fact our father DID pay thousands and thousands for us every year. This was years ago now and I am FURIOUS at my mother for lying, for keeping the money, for letting me destroy my relationship with my father, as I believed he never paid or cared. I don't know what to say to my mother now. I want to sue her or something for years of deceipt, for withholding the money that was supposed to benefit us children. Our father lived 400 miles away and we hardly ever saw him, so he was never truly aware of the fact we did not reveive the full benefits of his maintenance. Now he knows the truth he is astounded and angry too. He says he paid a LOT so we would have a good life despite his not being a part of it any more.

I am so angry and so sad. I don't want to rehash old issues but this knowledge has made everything come back to the surface. FFS Mum made us go without shampoo and conditioner and deodarant as teenage girls as she "couldn't afford it". We had to use cheap supermarket soap to wash our hair. I used to steal friends body spray at aleepovers. We lived in a lovely house though and no one ever really knew what went on behind closed doors. My clothes were embarassing. Thank God for school uniforms.

My mother is unstable, I suspect bipolar. She's made some very poor decisions in raising us. Yet now we are adults her memories of our childhood are VERY different from ours. Apparently we were raised free and liberal and wanted for nothing. Ok. I remember cutting mouldy crusts off white bread to make sandwiches for school. She would buy a certain amount of cheap and nasty food on a Saturday and by Thursday we'd often have to choose lunch or dinner as we couldn't have both.

Now she lives in an amazing house in a lovely country. She "retired" at 45 with her new husband. She considers herself the victim in life as she never wanted a cheating husband, or ungrateful children, etc etc...

I work bloody hard and earn a fair amount. She is now demanding I start contributing towards a savings account for HER and her DH as they want supporting once they are old. and apparently I OWE her.

I am so messed up over this, I know I need therapy or something. But I am also wanting to see what recall we children have for the maintenance that we never benefitted from. It was years ago. But the ramifications of her actions have affected all of us children as adults.

Ugh what a mess.

If you've read this far thank you.

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ItsGraceAgain · 24/02/2010 13:21

It's funny, I nearly added something about this in my last post! I agree, it would be irresponsible to yourself and your employers if you tried to muddle through with all this going on.

I'd be inclined to tell them you've had very bad news from your family. You're afraid you can't talk about the details, but it's very worrying and you're going to need quite some time off to deal with it. This is not a lie, obviously.

They may well need to find another nanny and - if your friends can support you for long enough - it would be kindest to suggest they get a temp on a 6-month contract. This leaves everybody's options open, and the children will be better served that way than with uncertainty. You can tell them you'll come & visit as soon as you can talk.

You've probably already done it, as you're due back tomorrow. Just wanted to send you a boost All the best.

youngblowfish · 24/02/2010 14:50

Sorry, just logged back on. Raisin, I really know where you are coming from. Having a place where you feel safe and can start working through your feelings is crucial.

Now, the way you feel about your employment ATM is completely understandable, even admirable. It takes a special kind of self-awareness and self-love actually to be able to say - I cannot look after myself now properly and I have to be in a place where I can before anything can be expected of me. At the same time, you feel responsible for everyone else because this is what you have been conditioned to believe - your mother's constant expectation to sort out all kinds of her problems takes its toll.

Again, Grace's real life advice about how to deal with your employers is spot on. You do not need to tell them in detail about anything, this is very private. I am sure they are very aware that you are responsible, kind and caring and that you would not take such a decision lightly. Also, I actually think they will be far more understanding than you think, as much as I am sure the situation will not be convenient for them. However, you might be quite used to completely overblown reactions you had to suffer for causing your mother any inconvenience, whether real or imagined. This will affect the way you expect people to react to what you perceive as dissapoitning them - I still struggle with this one a little. But, I almost always find that people's reactions are far better than what I expected. I really think it will be the case with your employers as well.

What you are going through is extremely hard. I have a lot of empathy for you, because when I started the process of healing from my abuse, I really felt like I was losing my mind. I dropped out of university (you can imagine how pleased my parents were) and relied on my DF to care for me, because I could not care for myself. All I could manage was to see a therapist on a regular basis. But, as much as it was a really dark time for me, I survived. I since got a degree from a much better university than the one I initially dropped out of and now find that I am happy and sane. My life is not always a bed of roses, but knowing that I can survive such an ordeal gives me faith in my ability to cope, even if I know how wobbly things can be. And it gives me faith in your ability to cope. It will hurt, but I really believe you will come out on the other side stronger and happier.

Raisin, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Best wishes!

wrinklyraisin · 24/02/2010 15:33

I have spoken with my boss. Ended up crying on the phone to her as she was so nice to me and I couldn't keep a lid on it. I've got the next week off and we will talk more in a few days and take it from there. She totally supported me and that just made me wail more. I am so grateful she listened and said you deserve to do this for yourself and stop worrying about the rest of us. I feel guilty but not as bad as I thought I would.

I feel like a huge weight has been lifted though. Now I can just think about me for a change.

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wrinklyraisin · 24/02/2010 15:33

I have spoken with my boss. Ended up crying on the phone to her as she was so nice to me and I couldn't keep a lid on it. I've got the next week off and we will talk more in a few days and take it from there. She totally supported me and that just made me wail more. I am so grateful she listened and said you deserve to do this for yourself and stop worrying about the rest of us. I feel guilty but not as bad as I thought I would.

I feel like a huge weight has been lifted though. Now I can just think about me for a change.

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ItsGraceAgain · 24/02/2010 15:36

Good news!
Now get on with thinking about you for a change

youngblowfish · 24/02/2010 16:32

Raisin, I am really happy for you. Trust me, you will experience a lot of love and understanding from other people because you deserve it!

And don't feel guilty. None of this is your fault.

giveitago · 24/02/2010 17:12

wrinkly just read your post and am mortified for you and your siblings - what resonates with me is that you feel responsible.

My mum is nothing like your mum but she was bad in other ways - she suffered depression and I'm an only child and was left to look after her when my dad left.

I found it so so hard so I got counselling and what helped me was that I was told we all fulfill our roles and the next time she was abusive to me I have two functioning legs and should just walk away. Had never even thought of that. I did it and the first couple of times she went bonkers at my calm reaction but slowly she seemed to understandand we now have an amazing relationship.

I'm not saying you should try and stay in touch with your mum but the threats of suicide are HER responsibility - she doesnt appear to have been responsible for you and you are NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER AND NONE OF THIS IS YOUR FAULT.

mathanxiety · 24/02/2010 17:24

Wrinkly, you are very brave. It takes courage to stand up to a bully, and you have done it.

The beauty of the internet is that you can actually put things in words and hit send without going through the drama of a face to face meeting with a therapist. You can process a lot of emotions even as you type, in fact. Gives the term word-processing a whole new meaning when you can put words on what has been going on in your life, see it all in black and white.

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