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DH and the housework - again. I'm so very bored of this.

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TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 10/07/2009 11:36

I was going to post this in AIBU, but then I realised that I don't actually care if I am BU or not, and I don't think i am BU. I think I'm tired and stressed and fed up of being used as a fucking doormat.

Housework has been a constant flash point for dh and i since we've been living together. When our dc came along it only got worse because I had less time to do the cleaning/houseworky stuff because of looking after the dc. I think what it boils down to is that he has a much lower standard of "clean" than I do, and doesn't see mess that needs tidying.

So, you know, fine. I can live with doing most of the housework, especially given the fact that he has a very demanding job and I am on mat leave at the moment. But the washing up is a constant wind up for me and it feels like he's doing it on purpose, and it feels like such a deliberate lack of respect on his part.

Our evening routine used to be: dinner at 7 (when he gets home from work), bathtime for dc, I put dd to bed, he puts ds to bed. I would do washing up while he did ds' bedtime (dd goes down v easily). But ds would get so stressed out, screaming for me at bedtime, it was very upsetting for all of us. So we adjusted it to me putting both the kids to bed while he does the washing up.

All well and good you think. But no. First of all, the washing up is rarely done by the time I get downstairs after putting dc to bed. Blood pressure rise number 1. Secondly, when he does do it, he does it with such an air of resignation I feel like ramming the dishcloth up his arse and doing it myself. Thirdly, he does it so bloody poorly I have to do half of it again, and then he doesn't wipe the sides, clean the top of the cooker or put away the clean, dry dishes from the draining board so we get very creative stacking which means that things fall down and break.

So, I wrote a checklist for him, because I know that he's very tired by the time he comes to do the washing up, and might forget to do stuff which seems obvious to me. It has stuff like wiping the sides, the table, under ds' high chair on, and putting the washing up bowl away. Yet every fucking morning I come downstairs to find a bowl of stagnant greasy water in the sink and the (barely clean) dishes teetering dangerously on the draining board.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some sort of Monica-esque clean freak. I have a fairly low standard of house-hygiene and think that germs are good for kids. But leaving stagnant water and dirty, wet dishcloths around the place - especially in this hot weather - is just vile and horrible and I AM FUCKING SICK. OF. IT.

It's not even really about the washing up anymore. It's about the fact that he seems to think it's ok to treat me as his unpaid skivvy, his unpaid childcare, his laundrymaid. Don't even get me started on the leaving pants on the bedroom floor thing. It's a basic lack of respect for me, his wife, and the mother of his children. And I have talked and talked and talked to him about it, and all I get back from him is how miserable he is in his job. How unhappy he is. How tired he is. NEWSFLASH - I'm tired, I'm stressed, I'm unhappy, at the moment I feel so shit about myself I can barely look at myself in the mirror without wanting to slash my arms open (deep, unresolved self-harm ishoos). And, yes, he probably is depressed, before any of you say it. And I have suggested countless times that he sees the GP to either sort some counselling out, or get some AD's as a stopgap measure. But he won't.

I love him very much, and when things are good (when he's off work) they're great. He is a good father (when he's not at work) and does stuff around the house (when he's not at work) - it's just that obviously 85% of the time he is at work, and I hate that he can just use that fact as an excuse for being shit.

Sorry it's such a long rant. Coming down this morning after a night of 2 screaming unhappy children (1 teething, 1 just a little shit sometimes - dh decamped to ds' room) to a pile of dirty dishes and a bowlful of greasy water was pretty much the last straw. The only reason I didn't pack my bags and pile me and the dc out of there is cause I love our house and I can't bear to leave it behind. I desperately want my marriage to work, I just don't know how.

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LuluMaman · 21/07/2009 15:35

maybe it would have been better for him not to take time off for the picnic and ensure he can take time off for Relate?

I really do hope that things do take an upturn

and that he is prepared to put some effort into making things work

you all deserve to be happy

CarGirl · 21/07/2009 15:35

I suppose I would just tell work it's an appointment.

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 21/07/2009 15:41

He'd already booked the time off for yesterday ages ago, lulu, and had to insist on it, and chase them up when they cocked it up and lost his holiday form, then accused him of lying.

I'm hoping that he can just tell them, "I have an appointment, I have to go, I will be in late on Thursday, I'll make the time up late," or whatever. But as that didn't work when I my AN scans with dd, there's no reason to assume it'll work for this!

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LuluMaman · 21/07/2009 15:42

god, they sound like a nightmare.

can he take a day as parental leave or something?

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 21/07/2009 15:43

I must say, though, there's nothing quite like making a baby crease up with laughter to cheer yourself up, is there?

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TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 21/07/2009 15:47

lulu - in theory, yes. I mean, legally, there's nothing to stop him, and the law would be on his side. But there's nothing to stop them saying, "Fine, take parental leave for a day, but if you do then you have no job to come back to."

I wish he could tell them to shove their job up their arse, but even if he is sacked for unfair dismissal, and we took them to a tribunal, and won (all of which takes time) there's no guarantee that they would pay up - and how much more time would it take before it could be enforced? By which time our house has been repossessed and we are all fucked!

As you said earlier, the answer is a new job, but they're not exactly common right now.

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LuluMaman · 21/07/2009 15:48

it is a horrible vicious circle

i think though if you both felt better and felt more that you were in this together, it will make the job situation more bearable

ottersRus · 21/07/2009 22:28

If he can't get the time on Thursday, go on your own anyway - it's fine to do that.

bloodyright · 22/07/2009 00:21

Fucking hell this has just made me laugh my ass off. You are sooo funny TAFKA, you have totally nailed it. You have just summed it up, whats its like, to be trying to do it all, being the wife, mother, friend, daughter and constantly feeling like your not quite doing it right. You know when you get those booklets from your MW - what happens at 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, hahaha, you should be writing these - this is what its really like.

It can be fucking awful, you sound exactly how I felt, like I was about to go off my head at any moment. Like I was running on pure adrenelin.

And its just about the 5 month mark that you start thinking, shit and along with everything else my big fat butt and belly ain't shifting and I'm going to have to fit in some kind of exercise and stop eating my cakes. And my clothes all look ridiculous. And my hair is not working.

Just too much to do and not enough time to do it. Your dh ain't gonna change much, but you will, you will chill out a bit again soon, when you get a bit more sleep. And you will begin to tolerate it all a bit more.

Oh, I wish I could come and take your kids off your hands for a day and let you go and do a pilates class, get your hair done and have a long lunch with plenty of white wine with your best friend.

It does get better. Some men are just shit, I have given up trying to get my dh to wipe down the cooker or the sink. i've just given in, what is the point. its just so unimportant.

That wee 5 month creasing up with laughter though, that is the best and the most important.

Forget depression and all of the other stuff, life is just hard sometimes and there is no easy way, you just got to muddle through best you can and hope you get out the other end without having given in to running upstairs and kicking him in the balls. hahahaha.

Good luck TAFKA - any chance you could fit a blog into that busy day - I'd certainly read it, you have a perfect way with words.

thumbwitch · 22/07/2009 00:48

Sorry you are having a hard time TAFKA - I have only one bit of potentially helpful advice re. the pants on the floor thing - DH used to leave his around, not just in the bedroom but elsewhere as well - so I threw them in the bin. And his socks, his jumpers - any clothes that were left in an inappropriate place ended up in the bin. He has improved markedly.

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