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Am I right to not trust this woman......

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nikki1978 · 10/06/2009 15:08

My DH are very happily married and have been together 8 years now and have two DC. We rarely argue and we get on very well. We also have a great sex life. All in all we have a very solid relationship. DH is a very friendly guy and makes friends easily and gets involved in lots of different projects where he meets new people. He set up his own business last year which is going well and as part of it joined a local networking group. He met lots of people there but became particularly friendly with one woman who he invited out to the pub with his friends a few times. She is 15 years older than him but when he met her he said to me that she looks very good for her age and is what his friends would call a MILF. She has three kids and is divorced. I met her a couple of months after he did and she seemed nice enough if a bit of an attention whore around men (the sort who wants everyone to fancy her). She had a boyfriend at the time who was 19 years younger (they broke up a few months ago) and she is clearly into younger men. Anyway 2 months ago I came home from work early and she answered my own door to me. Wasn't bothered by this as I had told DH that I was on my way home so there was no dodgyness on his part. Apparently she comes to our house every Wednesday to help him do the reports for their networking group. This made me a little uneasy but didn't worry about it. When she went home DH told me that she has told a friend of his (one he introduced her to) that several of the people at their networking group thought they were having an affair. DH thought it was funny but I was a bit upset and asked him why they might think that. He said that he always gave her a hug hello (no biggie he does that to everyone) and they always left together and went to have coffee and gossip afterwards. I said I didn't realise they had coffee alone together every week and why hadn't he mentioned it. He said it never occured to him and it wasn't a big deal. I festered on it a bit and told him that the whole thing bothered me and was starting to worry me. He got a bit upset that I had doubted him for a bit - which I admitted I did but then decided I trusted him and was sure nothing was going on. He said he would stop seeing her for the coffees if I wanted but thought that was "a bit sad" if I wanted him to stop. I said no it was fine but I felt I should have been aware of it. Anyway that was all forgotten but since then I guess I am wary of her and notice everything she does. Like I saw an email from her where she calls him "thmelly" i.e annoying babytalk for smelly. She also says "hello gorgeous" whenever she sees him. She came round the other day (he had said to her on Facebook "fancy popping over for a brew?". I heard him answer the door and she said "hello gorgeous" then saw me and said "oh hello" as if she didn't expect me to be there. There are a few things like that which make me very wary of her....

I am probably being over dramatic but would this bother anyone else?

DH found our his mother was having an affair when he was 11 by accident and it broke his family apart. He has never really forgiven her. He has said before to me that an affair is unforgivable and you only go elsewhere if something is wrong in your relationship so you should deal with your problems or split up in his eyes.

I really, really don't think anything is going on but this woman is really starting to bother me.

AIBU?

OP posts:
nikki1978 · 11/06/2009 17:57

Thanks toughdaddy

Sorry Lindenavery I don't really see what you mean about things that he said - what worries you there?

To be honest after the threesome etc we talked for a long long time about it and how we felt. To bring it all up again now seems weird and I am not sure what to say really as we have been through it all already.

Not sure what I need to talk to DH about regarding our relationship. There are no problems that are apparent to either of us (except the one this post was about but that has been discussed) so I see little point in delving into our relationship trying to find problems.... or am I misunderstanding you?

OP posts:
LindenAvery · 12/06/2009 10:06

Sorry to keep you hanging - Tough Daddy warned me off! And I was at work last night too.

Ok points I would raise:

He seems keen to talk about an outsider's perception of what is happening rather than seeing it from your point of view - as if there is something wrong with what you are reading into the situation. You were worried enough about it to post on here first before confronting him about it.

He could say to this women (as they are good friends) that her terms of endearment are making HIM uncomfortable (if you think they are inappropriate). Instead he has made this your problem to deal with.

He cannot say she would never come on to him.

He should not say there is nothing to worry about. You ARE worried and concerned and he should acknowledge those feelings even if he thinks there is no problem.

As for past experiences - unfortunately they can not really be forgotten, only accepted. Acceptance means that you acknowledge what has happened and that it will always have an impact, you can't change it and it will affect (good or bad)your relationship from time to time. Part of the fallout from threesomes (and this is only from observation so very much my interpretation)is the inability to move beyond the memory as it's presence will perhaps be triggered many times when you have sex with your husband because it is part of your sexual experence now.

So just my thoughts on the subject - I don't know you, your husband or the full details of the situation- only you can decide what to do from here.Although SGB would probably be a useful poster too!

poshsinglemum · 12/06/2009 10:37

I would chat to her and tell her to back off and that you know what she is up to. No doubt your dh is innocent- he's just the average clueless bloke who is flattered by the attention. Please tell her to piss off!

poshsinglemum · 12/06/2009 10:48

I also agree though that your dh needs a kick up the arse and he needs to stop allowing her to flirt with him.

SueMunch · 12/06/2009 11:08

This is my own point of view so don't blaze me for it!

I was originally behind the OP as I felt she was suspicious about this other woman.

However, when I learnt that a threesome had been initiated by request from the OP then my slant on this changed.

I'm no prude but it must be obvious that the dh involved must have had his horizons widened. A line has been crossed and I think it must be hard for him to go back.

worried27 · 12/06/2009 13:14

nikki1978 - you said earlier "I am scared of confrontations with anyone and if we ever have a proper argument I think we are going to split up. Legacy of a terribly passove aggressive mother"

I'm the same, on both counts, but I wondered how you linked the passive-aggressive mother to thinking you will split up if you have a real confrontation with someone? I think I could really do with making that link myself thanks

bigted · 13/06/2009 00:30

well done on a partial/total resolution

MorrisZapp · 13/06/2009 15:22

Late to this thread (tonsillitis kept me in bed!). Sounds like OP had a good cleansing chat with her DH.

But can I wade in on the whole 'predatory women' thing. This for me is the hardest part of MN to get used to. Sure, I've met flirty women who love male attention, they definitely do exist. But why in the name of arse do we treat the grown men they flirt with as helpless children?

I don't get it. What is up with 'your poor innocent husband, he's just enjoying the attention' etc. It's as if all the little husbands are too silly be be expected to say a firm no when a nasty big lipstick lady comes and tries to kiss him or something. As for 'too nice' which somebody did say^, words fail me. Married men who get off with other women don't do it out of niceness.

It's like 'timewarp MN' every time this subject comes up. Welcome to the sexual mores of the 1950's girls.

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