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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

867 replies

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

OP posts:
swallowedAfly · 19/10/2011 12:37

nice bumping!

glad to read this - i commented to someone earlier how utterly depressing it was reading the posts on here and knowing that there are so many women out there putting up with miserable situations and thinking it normal or even good.

garlicScaresVampires · 19/10/2011 12:39

Good bump, and timely!

sweepitundertherug · 19/10/2011 13:45

Thanks, will read through the links.

FiniteIncantatem · 31/10/2011 12:16

I'm bumping this again (can't we just have it as a permanent fixture at the top of every relationships thread?!)

AnyPhantomFucker · 31/10/2011 12:23

good idea, FI

and those links of puppy's too

FiniteIncantatem · 31/10/2011 12:54

Yes! It makes me so sad to see so many women decimated by their supposedly 'D'H/P. I suppose it reminds me of where I was once- I wish I'd had MN back then!

RumourOfAHurricane · 31/10/2011 13:29

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kando · 31/10/2011 13:32

Well said Reality!

TeachMonstersShockingBalance · 02/11/2011 14:07

bump

tallwivglasses · 26/11/2011 23:33

Aha!

BUMP...til next time. What about that book, mnhq?

butterflybee · 16/12/2011 15:38

Wow, the first I've read this depite the million and one bumps.
Amazing. Thank you.

MyLittleFluffball · 17/12/2011 08:55

There seem to be a lot of posters lately who might benefit from reading this...

BayPolar · 17/12/2011 10:30

I agree with Fluff. I feel so helpless this side of the screen, as I read thread after thread from women, who just don't understand that what they are going through is out and out abuse, be it mental, physical or emotional.
I want to wave a magic wand that sprinkles 'See The Light And Move On' all over their worlds.

izzywhizzystwelfthnight · 10/01/2012 21:02

Time for this thread to get another airing.....

Flanelle · 10/01/2012 21:05

Excellent! And timely, yes.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 17/01/2012 16:05

A dust-off and a bump for this most valuable thread.

Bobits · 26/02/2012 19:44

Brilliant! Bump xo

LiarsWife · 26/02/2012 21:17

Excellent post OP!! I think I'll be sticking this on my fridge too :-D

Thank you!! xx

arthriticfingers · 22/03/2012 16:40

Bump just because again

Sweepitundertherug · 22/03/2012 17:05

Thanks for bumping, I need to read this.

WannaBeMegMarch · 20/04/2012 16:43

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Anniegetyourgun · 12/05/2012 14:49

Time for a bump. Everyone needs to read this.

shopndrop · 12/05/2012 19:27

:'o(

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 12/05/2012 20:05

This should really be a sticky at the top of the Relationships board.

NicNocJnr · 12/05/2012 20:25

Honestly, second HotDamn - this really, really, should be a sticky!