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Right, listen up everybody.

867 replies

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

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OracleInACoracle · 11/06/2012 18:11

brilliant!

chipping · 06/07/2012 20:45

BUMPING this amazing, empowering thread that I 'bookmarked'. Thank you Reality!!

I was in an emotionally abusive relationship for over 10 years because I thought that was what I deserved, it was what I was worth.

Then I woke up (with a wee bit of help from mn!) & realised that I'm not stupid, ugly or worthless, I would rather be on my own than with someone who doesn't respect me, value me, accept me as I am, see me as an equal.

Divorce papers were served on H this week.

Smile
chipping · 06/07/2012 21:09

A previous poster commented that this thread might be patronising. I don't think anyone who has:

lived in fear of saying the wrong thing,
been isolated from friends and family,
been subjected to daily put downs & criticism,
told that it is all their fault,
having no privacy - not even to go to the toilet,
being coerced into sex,
subjected to racial abuse,
tantrums when expressing your opinion,
financial abuse, etc etc.

would find this patronising. Oh to be in the position of finding it so ... you are a bloody lucky individual.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 06/07/2012 23:58

Bump

ElephantsCanRemember · 24/07/2012 21:01

I think this needs to bumped again.

AltruisticEnigma · 24/07/2012 21:14

100% true.

I wish everyone realised this. :)

LawrenceSMarlow · 05/11/2012 23:44

This hasn't been bumped for a while.

Dryjuice25 · 06/11/2012 00:06

Amen

tallwivglasses · 06/11/2012 02:18

The one thread I don't mind seeing resurrected. Read and take heed women.

EclecticWorkInProgress · 27/11/2012 22:01

Bump again and again and again. Wink

WongaDotMom · 28/11/2012 15:54

Thank you so much for bumping this

CaramelisedOnion · 28/11/2012 17:32

Well said!

PeggyCarter · 28/12/2012 23:20

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

freeandhappy · 08/01/2013 22:36

Bumping again for 2013!

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 14/02/2013 20:06

Time for a bump.

It's also action day for "1 Billion Rising" today. Not entirely unrelated to this thread...

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 14/02/2013 22:16

Good call, HotDamn

IneedAsockamnesty · 18/04/2013 00:50

This op is a genius so I'm bumping again.

PeggyCarter · 22/05/2013 10:10

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Noregrets78 · 24/05/2013 22:58

We need some sort of 'auto bump' to regularly get this stuck to the top!

NorksAreMessy · 24/05/2013 23:02

Why can't this be a sticky thingy.
Too important to rely on zombie-revivers

springymater · 25/05/2013 11:19

re I would like to see classes in schools that teach teens about healthy, loving, equal relationships

Sorry if this has already been said (long thread!) but the Freedom Programme is currently being re-written (age-specific) to be delivered in schools.

YAY, I say. Get in early, teach this stuff at the earliest.

Great OP Smile

unapologetic · 25/05/2013 19:10

Thankfully learning about relationships is integral to the PSHE curriculum in schools. Children and young people do learn about healthy and abusive relationships and Women's aid's contribution is nationwide.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 09/07/2013 15:54

bump

Jux · 09/07/2013 18:52

I love it every time I see this thread.

plasticpotato · 20/07/2013 01:08

bump

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