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I just don't know what to do anymore....

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tearfulmummy · 12/07/2008 10:58

I've name changed to do this thread. I'm a long-standing regular MNetter.

I just need some help/advice about my relationship with my DH. We have two daughters.

I have been with DH for almost 20yrs. He is a lovely caring guy, when he wants to be. He has a temper. I saw it this morning.

He works extremely hard and puts his job first and foremost in his life, even before me and the kids. This has always been a bug-bear for me. Whilst I know holding down a full-time job is important I don't see it should always come first. He is in charge of his own working day. He can make changes to his day if he chooses to. When it comes to me and the kids he won't.

He has no relationship with his parents. He blames me for that. They never liked me from day one. They've always made it obvious they don't like me. They preferred his first wife. We have not seen them for many years. They've not even met our youngest daughter. Their choice, not ours. We ring them - they put the phone down. We text them - no reply. They live a 2hr drive away. His Father once said to me on one of our first visits that I was the girlfriend on the rebound. He has also called me some vicious names in the past and has made some very threatening comments about my family. As a result I do not like or trust DH's family.

DH's temper was awful this morning. I told him I'd had enough of being stuck at home. I desperately want to go back to work but I have the children to consider. My youngest is due to start school this Autumn but finding a job that will fit with school-runs is almost impossible around here. The schools themselves have no part-time work either. I told him I'd love to go out one evening, even just for a drink, but there is no-one to have the kids. I have friends but I don't like to ask them. DH has no friends - he is always too wrapped up with work to keep his mates outside work.

I told him to f-off this morning. I'd had enough. He keeps me awake with his snoring. He doesn't come to bed until the early hours because he watches rubbish on tv. He wakes me up when he comes to bed. We have no sex life whatsoever. I can't remember the last time we had sex - must be last year. When I told him to f-off this morning his reply was 'ok, I'm off'. I told him not to come back. His reply was 'ok, fine'. He was stood at the stairs and he told me to push him down the stairs. He kept telling me to push him...'come on push me down the stairs then'. Needless to say I didn't.

We have no money. We are fully skint. I am struggling to keep our fridge full. DH's money is good but with our mortgage and general outgoings we have next to nothing to live off. I have a car which I've considered getting rid of but I know if I do I'll need it for some emergency or other. I have an elderly Mum who doesn't drive and lives 10 miles away. My Dad died some years ago. I can't get rid of the car in case she needs me. I can't afford to run the car but its legal, that's about it.

I worry that the kids are picking up on the bad state of my relationship with DH. He does nothing to help himself. He is a good Dad but has no patience with them. I'm often telling him to calm it with the kids because its all too easy for him to raise his voice with them. The eldest is now becoming quite scared of him and his temper. He has never hurt them. He's not like that but his shouting and temper is scaring her. She comes to me when he's like that.

I can't afford to be living on my own with the kids. We don't have the money to survive. He has nowhere to go anyway. He'll never leave. His parents won't want him. He has no other family.

Y'know what though. I do love him. But I don't love him the same way I used to love him. I don't feel close to him anymore. We don't kiss or cuddle. I hate this. What do I do? xxx

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izyboy · 12/07/2008 17:51

findtheriver I dont think you are helping with your patronising tone - the OP is unlikely to be taking your advice on board because your delivery has no compassion. Therefore if you want to help it is best to stop posting.

izyboy · 12/07/2008 17:53

Tearfulmummy good luck with the job search I hope you find something suitable - and really it is ok to off load - pay no attention to the waggly finger brigade.

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/07/2008 17:53

I don't think findtheriver is patronising at all.

She is trying to put a different perspective to the OP I would say.

OP may not like the advice that is being offered, but she posted asking for advice!

findtheriver · 12/07/2008 17:53

izyboy - sorry, didnt realise we have to ask your permission to post.

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izyboy · 12/07/2008 17:57

Well it is patronising because findtheriver feels the need to embolden her words and use phrases like 'for goodness sake!' If someone spoke to me like that my ears would close immediately and therefore I would not take on board the advice good or bad.

tearfulmummy · 12/07/2008 17:57

Why? Because if he wanted to leave his current job and go and do something else, he can. He doesn't have to weigh up school runs, inset days, half-terms etc etc. If he has to be away with his work - he can. When he goes away on his work jollies, of which there are quite a few (ie team building events, trips abroad, clubbing in London)...he can.

I CANNOT!!! I am at home with the kids. I know he works full-time etc etc but he has the freedom to do what he wants because he knows I am here, being Mum.

Simple eh?

Yes I am envious he has that freedom. Yes I am envious he can work WHEN HE WANTS doing the hours WHEN HE WANTS. I can't.

Like I've said in previous posts he can dictate his working day. He is a Manager and can choose what he does and where he goes with his work. There have been countless times when I've needed him to help me out with something to do with the kids. I don't have a network of people to ask. It is always down to me.

Maybe I don't want to do this anymore? Maybe I want to go and do something with my life? I've learnt the hard way life can be short. I have no career. I want a career. I want to go and be a part of a working environment again. I want that independence. I want my identity rather than being referred to as 'X's Mum'. Is that too much to ask? Yes, it clearly is, otherwise I'd have done it all by now.

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izyboy · 12/07/2008 17:57

Yep you do if you are patronising!

izyboy · 12/07/2008 17:59

See you get a pointless response back if you dish it out!!

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/07/2008 18:02

Unfortunately you can't have it all. That's a very hard lesson to learn. If you're not happy being a SAHM and all that that entails, then you need to go out to work.

If you're at work then you will have to arrange for childcare - whatever that might be - and accept the compromises that will be inevitable.

findtheriver · 12/07/2008 18:02

Right, the OP's last post explains a little more detail. If you don't want to 'hand over' your children to a childminder or after school club for a part of their day, then you are seriously going to compromise the kind of job you can do. Most jobs don't fit totally around the school day. And a lot that do, tend to be low pay, low status. Of course, it's your decision (and your DH's)how you raise your kids. But there's very little point in making a decision, ie that you won't use childcare, and then moaning about the consequences (or the lack of money).If I was at home and bored, fed up, understimulated, then I would take steps to address that. That was what I was suggesting to the OP. My perspective. After all, if you post on a public forum, presumably you expect to hear different views.
I still think that the crux of the issue is the OPs comment that the children are 'her' responsibility. I think women (and men) need to take responsibility for the lifestyle they create. If you want a lifestyle where you both share parenting equally, it will probably involve sharing paid work and house work etc equally too.If you want to stay home while your husband goes to work, then do that. I just can't see the value of being unhappy with your life, and then blocking any suggestions of how to change it.

findtheriver · 12/07/2008 18:04

BecauseImWorthIt - agree

izyboy · 12/07/2008 18:07

Well it is entirely up to the OP if she wishes to take on board advice, I personally wouldn't from someone who does not write with compassion. We all have a perspective on what is ideal - in time the op may feel happy to look at childcare, for now we must respect her wishes not to. It is fine to vent TM, without having to justify, you have my empathy

tearfulmummy · 12/07/2008 18:10

Thank you izyboy.xxxx

To be honest I feel I am struggling with this thread. I feel I am having to fight my corner a bit. I am aware MN is a public forum. After 5yrs on MN I think I'm aware of that. I realise not all comments are going to help me. I realise there are differing views.

If I could flick a switch to make my life happier I would. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. There are too many switches to flick and sadly I really don't feel like trying anymore.

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BecauseImWorthIt · 12/07/2008 18:10

But she wasn't just venting, izyboy, she was asking for advice!

And whether you agree or not with the advice that has been given, people have still given up their time to try and help.

Sometimes advice has to be harsh, IME, to provide another insight into the situation.

And why do we have to respect the OPs wishes about childcare, if going back to work and getting childcare could be part of a solution for her?

izyboy · 12/07/2008 18:15

Well I can understand how you feel, there are times when most of us would admit to feeling a bit lost.

I suggest you take time out from this thread, some people just want their voices heared at all costs whether you find it useful or not.

There is some good advice on the thread tho' and lots of compassion - you are not alone.

notjustmom · 12/07/2008 18:16

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izyboy · 12/07/2008 18:18

Well in my experience people tend to hear what you are saying when it is written with compassion. Yes the OP was asking for advice but not a kick up the arse!

We have to respect her opinion because she has ownership of it and it is not your place to badger her to change it.

toniguy · 12/07/2008 18:19

I agree BecauseImworthIt.
Why post about being unhappy and asking for help if you just want every body to agree with you!
I was a SAHM for 4 years. I loved it for a long time but after 4 years we were broke and if I am honest i was also getting resentful of the grind. I would have preferred a job that gave me school holidays, late starts and early finishes etc but let's be honest here, how many jobs are there like that?
I used a childminder and guess what, my kids love her. I may have got anxious about the thought of leaving my kids, but they didnt!! Life is all about compromise; no one has the perfect life, but life is a hell of a load better if you don't moan about it!

izyboy · 12/07/2008 18:21

Notjustmom good example of what I mean about writing with compassion

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findtheriver · 12/07/2008 18:23

LOL izyboy this is like an exam. 'Well done, full marks for compassion!'

tearfulmummy · 12/07/2008 18:23

toniguy...did I say I wanted everyone to agree with me? I don't think so.

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littlewoman · 12/07/2008 18:24

I feel very sorry for you Tearfulmummy. I wish there was something we could do to help. I have felt like this myself, and it's awful.

Please please see your doctor if you think there's any chance it could help you. You sound so low, it's really quite distressing.

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