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Life post DH that refused to sign the post nup!

115 replies

mamato3rascals · 29/10/2026 08:09

I’ve been so grateful for all the advice and support on here over the past year. It’s helped enormously in giving me the strength to leave, and to make sense of the situation along the way. So this is the continuation thread which I’m hoping will be a little calmer and less eventful..!

OP posts:
DinosaurusFemina · 29/10/2026 08:17

Thanks for making the new thread @mamato3rascals 😊

Washandblowdryplease · 29/10/2026 08:21

Can you link the earlier threads please?

spanishcheese · 29/10/2026 08:22

How is your eldest child settling in?

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 29/10/2026 08:24

Washandblowdryplease · 29/10/2026 08:21

Can you link the earlier threads please?

First thread
www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5517090-dh-has-reneged-on-post-nup-he-had-promised-pre-marriage-he-would-enter-into-to-protect-family-inheritance?page=38&reply=155617785

FlatCatYellowMat · 29/10/2026 09:17

When I split from ex, what helped my oldest was when I had the conversation with them (ex avoided having it entirely by leaving the country), I re-assured him that everything would be just as it was, I'd still be taking them to school, tucking them in, making their dinner etc. (ex was very un-involved). He still cried, but 2 weeks later, he came up to me in the kitchen, and said I was right, that everything was the same - and he's been fine ever since.

Of course he didn't have my ex winding him up all the time, which is easier, and he was a little older - 10ish rather than 8.

harriethoyle · 29/10/2026 09:21

Checking in @mamato3rascals - hope you managed to navigate your daughter's distress OK.

comingintomyown · 29/10/2026 09:56

Ah hello @mamato3rascals how are you ? Have you given any thought to access arrangements where you don’t have to see him in front of your DC ?
I hope your DD is ok, it’s not a linear process getting through this but you sound like you have a really good head on your shoulders. Please don’t listen to your STBXH , divorce does not destroy children if it’s handled well.

CatSquirrelDuck · 29/10/2026 10:31

I hope you can get the oldest into counselling asap ... what he is doing to her is emotionally abusive. It's frightening that he's happy to actively harm his own child to try to get what he wants.

TrappedByThisDesk · 29/10/2026 11:18

You finally properly moved out on 25th.
Yesterday you witnessed him clinging to DD and them both sobbing while he whispered at you “look at what you’re doing”.

Where exactly did this take place? Was it on the doorstep?
Because he should not be going over the threshold of your house, and you should not be going over the threshold of his.
You don't live there. Don't go in.
Just collect the DC on the doorstep. It doesn't matter if they haven't got all the right stuff with them, if he hasn't packed their bags or gathered up their homework or whatever. Deal with whatever comes.
You don't go in.

This is an essential part of putting in place and maintaining new boundaries. Every time you fail to enforce a boundary, he will seize the chance to emotionally abuse you and DD. Because what he did with that sobbing and whispering was emotional abuse.

Keep handovers of the DC as short and quick as you possibly can. If he starts to talk to you, tell him to email you.

KatyAnnwillsaveus · 29/10/2026 11:18

I read your previous thread. You STBExH sounds like someone who weaponises incompetence (rather than actually being incompetent)?and is very capable of becoming dad and husband of the year to manipulate you into guilt and submission.

I also think he married you for money and status he can’t achieve on his own (or doesn’t see why he should), which is why he never intended to sign the pre or post nup.

If he’s stepping up for the kids now, don’t frame it in terms of frustration on your part (ie why couldn’t he do this when we were together). He never would and never will step up whilst you are together because his whole raison d’etre is unearned privilege, which includes having nicely brought up kids having a nice childhood with no effort on his part. So just take his giving attention to your kids as a really good thing in the context of a divorce where they have 2 homes.

As for your eldest daughter, there’s really not very much more you can do except keep reassuring her of your love and security whilst she’s with you, both in word and deed (which I know you are doing anyway). Unfortunately, your ex trying to undermine you and weaponise her is par for the course in a divorce with such a person. All you can be is the sane counterbalance in all this. And keep a firm boundary between you and ex. Stop getting involved in his drama llama-ing. He’s trying to manipulate you as he has throughout your marriage.

Chilly80 · 29/10/2026 13:46

Hope you can build a happy new life without that asshole

DontEatTheMushies · 29/10/2026 14:13

Holy Moly.........jsut read the other thread! You have the patience of an absolute saint to have put up with that man for that long.
Well done for getting out!

As a child of 2 parents that hated each other but never separated - you have done the best thing, even for your eldest.

I hope you do get a someone for her to speak to as then you can have an independent party explaining to her about the way we behave to each other, what's acceptable etc and why the divorce is happening.

On wards and UPWARDS!

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/10/2026 14:30

Hi, OP. Hope you are Ok. I think you said you were away for work until the weekend. Hope its all going well. Not long now until you are fully settled in. I think @TrappedByThisDesk had the right idea about enforcing your boundaries and not going into the house, and he doesn't come in to yours.. especially at this initial stage. Best of luck x

B9waiting · 29/10/2026 14:36

Checking in to wish you well. Stay strong!

Lifecircle · 29/10/2026 16:01

Checking in!!

parietal · 29/10/2026 19:40

Well done getting this far and I hope things continue to move forward.

BlueMum16 · 29/10/2026 19:54

How did it go with DD yesterday?

How long are the DC now with you? What's the arrangement regular co parenting? Have you agreed set days/nights?

TwinklySquid · 29/10/2026 21:47

I’m not sure if you’ve moved already, but if you haven’t:
With the Ring Door Bell, they normally stop working if the WiFi is down. If you are worried he might see things, the night before, wiggle a wire out slightly so it doesn’t full connect. If he says something, plug the wire back but then turn off at the wall to “reboot”. Make sure he sees you doing this before he goes to work.

Then if he’s out, give it an hour and do it again. You can then say you’ll reboot but this time- just leave it. Tell him you’ll call your internet provider at lunch if it hasn’t got better- but you’ll be long gone by then!

Lumpyteats · 30/10/2026 00:59

TwinklySquid · 29/10/2026 21:47

I’m not sure if you’ve moved already, but if you haven’t:
With the Ring Door Bell, they normally stop working if the WiFi is down. If you are worried he might see things, the night before, wiggle a wire out slightly so it doesn’t full connect. If he says something, plug the wire back but then turn off at the wall to “reboot”. Make sure he sees you doing this before he goes to work.

Then if he’s out, give it an hour and do it again. You can then say you’ll reboot but this time- just leave it. Tell him you’ll call your internet provider at lunch if it hasn’t got better- but you’ll be long gone by then!

The move was discussed in detail in the thread OP linked to AND mentioned in her first post in this thread.

mamato3rascals · 30/10/2026 07:09

Thank you to everyone who has checked in and asked how DD1 is doing. I really appreciate it. 💐

It’s been a real rollercoaster.

The night before last was particularly challenging. She was very up and down. She did stay at the new house, and I used the tactic someone had suggested on my previous thread, explaining that “Daddy will be enjoying some time on his own, just like Mummy did when you were all away on holiday with Daddy the other week.”
She was so concerned about him and kept asking me to pinky promise that he would be OK while she wasn’t there.

We played board games before bed, which she loved, but the minute we got into bed she broke down in tears again. She said we’d always told her we wouldn’t split up, and now it had happened she felt sick. The tears are just heartbreaking, such raw emotion every single time.

She has a stuffed teddy she always sleeps with, which is still at her dad’s. I’d deliberately left it there because realistically we can’t be passing a teddy between houses every couple of nights. I had a blanket here that she’s had since she was a baby and asked whether she’d like that instead. Poor little mite slept clinging to it all night.

Then yesterday we actually had a lovely day. We spent the day at the house baking cakes, playing football and generally having fun. Some new neighbours walked past while we were playing outside and introduced themselves. They asked how long we’d be here and I said 12 months (it’s a rental). DD1 immediately came running over to tell me she’d heard what I’d said. Why 12 months? She thought we’d only be here for a shorter time. How many days is 12 months? She must have mentioned the 12 months another half a dozen times throughout the day.

STBXH had been trying to ring the children repeatedly, which I find slightly bizarre given that he can quite happily go away for a weekend, or even a week, without ringing them. I didn’t allow him to speak to them on the first night as I wanted them to settle into the house without any further upset. We called him yesterday morning instead.
He told DD1, “The house is very quiet without you all, I’m really missing you.” Which, of course, immediately played on her heartstrings. She keeps telling me she misses Daddy and asking whether he’s OK. Again, this is so out of character. She’s previously gone up to two weeks without really speaking to him and barely mentioned him.

Yesterday afternoon she had a Halloween party. She arrived and immediately announced to one of her school friends, “My mummy and daddy have split up.” Her little friend kept telling her how sorry she was that this had happened. Bless them both. At the end of the party, she left by making her friend pinky promise that she wouldn’t tell anyone else about her “secret”. Halfway through the party, Pink Pony Club came on. DD1 came hurtling towards me, hysterical. I genuinely thought she’d hurt herself. It turned out it was “her and Daddy’s song” and she missed him so much. She was hysterical.
The only place I could take her for some privacy was the toilets, so we spent about 15 minutes in there while she sobbed her heart out. Why did this have to happen? This was her worst fear come true. When could we go back to the old house? Could she please just go back there to sleep that night? She misses daddy so much and doesn’t like this. It was absolutely heartbreaking. Particularly because she’d only spent one night away from him, and as I’ve said, this level of distress about being apart from him is completely out of character. Eventually she calmed down and we went back to the party. She got back into things with her friends and seemed much happier. We came home and she was generally OK, other than a few little tears and questions at bedtime.

I’m working SO hard on reassurance. Constantly explaining that none of this is her fault, how loved she is, that she doesn’t need to worry about Daddy because that’s not her job. It’s our job as parents to look after her, and we will both continue to do that with an abundance of love.

I can however see that she’s starting to question whether I’m responsible for the split. Last night I tried to explain, in terms she might understand, that sometimes people don’t treat each other very nicely and that it’s important to have the strength and courage to walk away from that. I told her that she’d seen herself some of the things Daddy had said to Mummy, and that Mummy had been very sad for a long time. She nodded and said, “Yes, and how he always walked out when you were speaking to him.” I tried to put it into a context she could understand. I asked how she’d feel if someone in her classroom was constantly telling her she wasn’t good at things, or speaking to her nastily every day. I explained that Mummy had felt a little like that, but that everything was going to be OK. She seemed to understand the logic. I have no idea if this is right but I also don’t want to be vilified in this.

Then, a little later, completely unprompted, she said:
“I have lots of crushes on boys in my class, Mummy, but I’ll never marry someone who speaks to me nastily because I don’t want my children to ever feel like I’m feeling now.” That was the dagger. I don’t think I’ll ever forget those words.

So that’s where we are. A complete rollercoaster.
I’m now looking into child therapists because I think she really does need some support beyond what I can give her. I’m slightly worried she’ll be reluctant because she’ll see it as yet another thing happening to her because of the separation, but I think it’s important.

I’m also conscious that I’ll have had three nights with the children by the time they go back to their dad. Three nights of working incredibly hard to reassure DD1, build her confidence and help her feel secure, only for her potentially to be brought straight back down again.
I really feel he needs to be reassuring her that everything will be OK, rather than telling her how much he misses her and how quiet and lonely the house is without them and how terrible a situation it is. She already feels responsible for his happiness, and I worry he’s unintentionally (or otherwise) reinforcing that.

As for STBXH, that’s a whole other matter.
It’s almost as though he’s been in complete denial until now, and the children actually staying at my house has finally made the penny drop.
He keeps messaging me things like, “We are both going to miss out on 50% of our children’s lives growing up now because of this.” He knows exactly how much that will play on my emotions. I just ignore those messages.

He also repeatedly tells me how much damage this is doing to DD1. Having seen her reaction over the last few days, I can hardly disagree that she’s struggling terribly, but I keep responding that this is precisely why we both need to behave like adults and support her through it.
I’ve told him that ringing her to say how quiet the house is and how much he misses her isn’t helping. She needs reassurance from him, not to feel responsible for his sadness.

He then sends more messages listing all the ways he’s been a wonderful husband and father. Devoted, loyal, faithful, loving, funny etc. There were about eight adjectives in the latest one. I replied that it was a shame he’d never really appreciated me or everything I did.
And that’s about where we are.

I’ve got one more night with the children before they go back to him. The youngest two honestly haven’t got the foggiest. They’re completely absorbed in the excitement of the new house, the gadgets, their bedrooms and the novelty of everything. Neither has asked once about STBXH. They’re just enjoying themselves.
DD1, on the other hand, seems to be carrying the emotional burden of the entire separation on her little shoulders.

I know it’s very early days and I can’t expect her to adjust overnight. I just wish I could take some of this pain away from her.

I am going to email school and let them know what is happening and how DD1 is. If I email to ask to see the teachers I’ll be waiting days and I feel it needs to be on their radar the minute she goes back next week. Is there anything else I should be doing?!

If anyone has been through similar with a particularly sensitive, emotionally aware child, I’d really appreciate any words of wisdom. Especially anything that helped them feel less responsible for the other parent’s happiness, or helped them begin to feel secure between two homes.

Thank you again to everyone who’s been so kind. 💐

OP posts:
Whyherewego · 30/10/2026 07:15

Honestly OP therapy is the best option for her. My younger DS reacred badly to our split. He manifested differently ... he'd fly into these incredible tantrums that were so hard to manage. Ultimately it was all about his loss of control and situations that he couldnt control.
He worked with a child therapist for about a year I think, maybe more. And it really helped. He was a bit younger than your DD so a lot was done through play. But it did help him rationalise and come to terms with everything.
My ex wasnt being as difficult as yours mind you!

Iamnotalemming · 30/10/2026 07:16

OP, I think you've put your DD's name in your last post, you might want to edit that xx

Wholelotagrey · 30/10/2026 07:30

I have been through this in terms of the child struggling when there was a split. I won’t lie it took best part of 2 years, and it was brutal, they were really emotionally distressed, but now the kids are well adjusted and are glad their mum and dad aren’t together.

Hang in there my ex did exactly what yours is doing and emotionally blackmailed them they are older now and see through it completely one of them doesn’t want to see my ex at all.

HelloCheekyCat · 30/10/2026 07:32

I've reported the post to ask HQ to edit if needed

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 30/10/2026 07:38

Apologies if this has already been addressed : I didn’t read the whole of your last thread but just your posts. But I hope you do have a really shit hot solicitor who is able to protect your finances as much as possible. A friend of a friend is going through a divorce and the financial settlement has been substantially delayed because her ex is pursuing his share of a potential (ie not one which exists yet but possibly might do in the future) inheritance.