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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:18

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:17

Obviously you’ve never parented much. I have always been the primary parent for my kids and hands-down it is as or more demanding than my high-level professional job. Obviously most parents, especially single parents, do both - work and parent, they’re not sitting around during the day when their kid or kids are at nursery or school.

It does not get easier once you’re out of the nappies stage; the needs change, that’s all. Your laughable claim that it does only shows how disengaged you are as a parent.

How is it more demanding than your ‘high level’ job? How much time a day do you spend parenting and how much time do you spend working ?

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:19

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:15

Yes it does say he didn’t accuse her directly of trapping him.
‘didn’t think she could have kids’ and ‘ so she’d never be alone’ together are a red flag though, since we’re on that subject.

People have lots of reasons for wanting kids, of which wanting a family, aka, not being alone, is probably the primary one! What’s an acceptable reason for wanting kids in your book?

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:20

think about going forward. have you already thought about who you wouldn’t want to tell about the situation with his child because they ‘just won’t understand’ (will understand) a little internal audit of who might ask an awkward question?

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 19:23

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:12

But there’s absolutely no evidence from her post that the guy is violent or ever has been, there’s no red flag there in that regard.

I don't think you understand what a red flag is. But why would you when you haven't been there.

My ex told me a sob story all about how the mother of his child was mean, he couldn't see his child etc etc. He also told me sob stories about how he'd been bullied, his ex had cheated on him.

A few weeks later he violently assaulted me, and I was then so traumatised that I couldn't process the situation I was in. There were no other warnings.

This kind of tragic sob story where the facts don't quite add up IS a red flag of a predatory man.

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:25

All the parents who have children to avoid work and claim benefits? Those parents wouldn’t say that would they.

your views are starting to sound quite unpleasant. if you’re demonising other groups to make yourself feel better you’re not going to be able to build a happy life.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:28

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:19

People have lots of reasons for wanting kids, of which wanting a family, aka, not being alone, is probably the primary one! What’s an acceptable reason for wanting kids in your book?

Not being alone is a terrible reason to have children and the primary reason that most children aren’t brought up properly

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:31

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 19:23

I don't think you understand what a red flag is. But why would you when you haven't been there.

My ex told me a sob story all about how the mother of his child was mean, he couldn't see his child etc etc. He also told me sob stories about how he'd been bullied, his ex had cheated on him.

A few weeks later he violently assaulted me, and I was then so traumatised that I couldn't process the situation I was in. There were no other warnings.

This kind of tragic sob story where the facts don't quite add up IS a red flag of a predatory man.

Sorry that happened to you.
As far as we know the ops date hasn’t been bullied or cheated on though, which suggests that it actually is a bit unfair to vilify him to the extent that he is here

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:32

christ, parenting gets harder in different ways as they get older. you don’t sound like a parent, you sound like someone who has watched someone parent.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:34

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:18

How is it more demanding than your ‘high level’ job? How much time a day do you spend parenting and how much time do you spend working ?

I parent before and after work every day, and on weekends, and when they’re off school sick, and all holidays so over a year it works out pretty equal but you’re never just doing one or the other. During my workdays I’m finding time to go grab something my kid needs for school or a party or activity, taking leave to take them to medical appointments, thinking about issues they’re having, you never switch off. It’s a massive and ongoing juggle.

My job requires me to perform one set of skills well and deal with other adults but with my kids I play a huge range of roles; direct physical care, emotional regulation, conflict management, caring guidance and discipline, careers counselor, teacher and tutor, support person for activities, fundraiser, financial advisor, driver, administrator, proxy nurse, cook, cleaner, all while managing my own needs and attempting to have a social life.

Men like you who are barely parents are so blasé about what it actually takes to be a good one.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:34

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:25

All the parents who have children to avoid work and claim benefits? Those parents wouldn’t say that would they.

your views are starting to sound quite unpleasant. if you’re demonising other groups to make yourself feel better you’re not going to be able to build a happy life.

I didn’t demonise anybody.
It’s a fact that many parents have children because it is easier than the alternative.
In fact the government rewards ‘parents’ doing so and have just made it even easier so more people will do it.
And no I don’t mean everybody does, or suggesting that’s the case for anyone in the thread.

Imonmyownhere · 11/10/2026 19:35

You've had one date, he could be exaggerating about the length of time he's been sober. Even so I don't think I could have a relationship with a recovering alcoholic, nor could I ignore the fact he's not followed up stepping up for his child.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:35

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:28

Not being alone is a terrible reason to have children and the primary reason that most children aren’t brought up properly

Got any evidence for your wild claim that most kids aren’t brought up properly?

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:37

yo808 would you want your own child to believe things so easily? to take important information in important situations at face value when life/news shows us how easily we can be deceived? is your dc a girl? would you send her off on a date and ask her to believe everything the date says because otherwise she’s being mean? you’d be pissed off with her if she said ‘nah i don’t think it adds up somehow’ you’d be disappointed??

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:40

Got any evidence for your wild claim that most kids aren’t brought up properly

i noticed that. YO how are most kids not being brought up properly? like what’s the main issues that you see?

how are things with your parents YO? are they warmly supportive of the mother of their dgc? you?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:43

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:34

I parent before and after work every day, and on weekends, and when they’re off school sick, and all holidays so over a year it works out pretty equal but you’re never just doing one or the other. During my workdays I’m finding time to go grab something my kid needs for school or a party or activity, taking leave to take them to medical appointments, thinking about issues they’re having, you never switch off. It’s a massive and ongoing juggle.

My job requires me to perform one set of skills well and deal with other adults but with my kids I play a huge range of roles; direct physical care, emotional regulation, conflict management, caring guidance and discipline, careers counselor, teacher and tutor, support person for activities, fundraiser, financial advisor, driver, administrator, proxy nurse, cook, cleaner, all while managing my own needs and attempting to have a social life.

Men like you who are barely parents are so blasé about what it actually takes to be a good one.

So an hour or two in the mornings. In the evenings you do most of the parenting or does your partner help?
taking leave from work as and when you can, as you seem able to, doesn’t usually correlate with a ‘high level’ job.
Maybe, and many parents are dreadful parents but will go around talking about how they’re superhuman because it’s such an enormous effort, when actually they’re doing less than most single people.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:47

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:43

So an hour or two in the mornings. In the evenings you do most of the parenting or does your partner help?
taking leave from work as and when you can, as you seem able to, doesn’t usually correlate with a ‘high level’ job.
Maybe, and many parents are dreadful parents but will go around talking about how they’re superhuman because it’s such an enormous effort, when actually they’re doing less than most single people.

I don’t have a partner and as you’re clearly not willing to engage meaningfully but are just dismissing the reality and calling me a liar, I won’t be engaging with you further.

You sound like every other deadbeat out there who is full of opinions about how easy parenting is and how it should be done, while utterly failing to do so yourself.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:49

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:35

Got any evidence for your wild claim that most kids aren’t brought up properly?

General lack of respect getting worse, anti social behaviour, far less kids doing sports, glued to technology, kids given terrible diet, brought up thinking only their parents way is the right way.
Much of that is a symptom of western society gone wrong but still.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:55

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:47

I don’t have a partner and as you’re clearly not willing to engage meaningfully but are just dismissing the reality and calling me a liar, I won’t be engaging with you further.

You sound like every other deadbeat out there who is full of opinions about how easy parenting is and how it should be done, while utterly failing to do so yourself.

I’m not calling you a liar, but you said you juggle a high level job, whatever that means, other than making you sound a bit stuck up, with being a full time mother.
ok, fair play to you, but you don’t spend anywhere near the amount of time looking after your kids as you do in your job, but you suggested that you did.

You also said I think that ‘most’ parents do the same as you and put that amount of work in, when most definitely don’t, many do not work jobs at all.

The only true deadbeat is a person that doesn’t do anything, that doesn’t work when they can.
so, it’s unfair imo to call the ops date a deadbeat

winter8090 · 11/10/2026 19:56

I think one date is not enough time to get to know
someone. The explanation so far seems reasonable and there is nothing that makes me think it isn’t genuine.
I would see if his actions over the next few months are consistent and match his words x

JoyousWriter · 11/10/2026 20:00

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:05

The first year or two of having a baby is incredibly hard but after that, raising a child if you’re in good health isn’t harder or more time consuming than most work men and women do every day. In fact it’s much less so especially when they start nursery or school. Of course definition of raising a child well is quite vague since hardly anybody really brings their children up properly, but that’s partly because of the society we live in.

Yes, Sometimes things happen, though, and I wouldn’t say my ex trapped me at all, that’d be unfair, but at the same time I certainly didn’t ’betray’ her has been suggested. That is also unfair.
A balanced opinion should be given to the OP

Now you're just being silly.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 20:03

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:32

christ, parenting gets harder in different ways as they get older. you don’t sound like a parent, you sound like someone who has watched someone parent.

The point is that someone is not a villain just because they are not there, and Parenting while being the highest thing you can do, if you can do it well, is not always some act of heroism when so many people do it just adequately, or lazily, or flat out badly.
*Some people having a go at the guy in the OP will be worse than he is just for different reasons.

speakball · 11/10/2026 20:12

to be fair there are lots of reasons i wouldn’t date a man. poor logic would be one such as frequent use of ad hom attacks. neither would I date a man who thought someone saying they had a high level job was stuck up. there are so many things on my list.

the fact he’s put the entire atlantic ocean between him and his child probably isn’t even the worst thing about him. there’s usually so much more.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 20:15

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:31

Sorry that happened to you.
As far as we know the ops date hasn’t been bullied or cheated on though, which suggests that it actually is a bit unfair to vilify him to the extent that he is here

Obviously they don't all use the same story.

And unless he's reading this thread, why you so concerned about him being vilified? Aren't there any other forums more suitable for starting your absent fathers support group?

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 20:17

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:55

I’m not calling you a liar, but you said you juggle a high level job, whatever that means, other than making you sound a bit stuck up, with being a full time mother.
ok, fair play to you, but you don’t spend anywhere near the amount of time looking after your kids as you do in your job, but you suggested that you did.

You also said I think that ‘most’ parents do the same as you and put that amount of work in, when most definitely don’t, many do not work jobs at all.

The only true deadbeat is a person that doesn’t do anything, that doesn’t work when they can.
so, it’s unfair imo to call the ops date a deadbeat

It means I’m in the top 4 percent of earners if that helps clarify, and I know better than you how much time I spend parenting my children vs working.

For someone who wants to moan about how badly parented “most” children are (not in my experience, most of the kids and teens I know are being raised very well and badly behaved ones are outliers), you also don’t seem to want to hear about how much time good parents actually put in.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 20:17

speakball · 11/10/2026 19:40

Got any evidence for your wild claim that most kids aren’t brought up properly

i noticed that. YO how are most kids not being brought up properly? like what’s the main issues that you see?

how are things with your parents YO? are they warmly supportive of the mother of their dgc? you?

My dad’s passed away but mum doesn’t really seem to understand why I didn’t want to stay with my ex and son although I try to speak to her she doesn’t really understand and says I could have been a good dad even if I can’t run around with my son and get tired quickly but to me a son should be able to play with his dad and go long walks and all the rest of it. I am 36 but was fit and doing ok until 31 when my health got bad.
yes woe is me, there are people with cancer parenting, all well and good. I respect them for staying happy with their situation.
But I would rather not be there than feel down around him as both my parents were not great growing up, mum was not happy for a long time.
I would rather end up with nowhere to live and struggle with money than stay. His mum is a very good mum at least and she does have help from family so has never been alone with our son.