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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
JHound · 11/10/2026 18:30

If he can do it once he can do it again. I would end things now and move on.

fruitbrewhaha · 11/10/2026 18:33

Just date him if you want to, you clearly do. It’s been one date, you do t have to make your mind up about him. That’s what you do after 2 or 3 years. Just get to know him.

BUT! Don’t be swept up by his bullshit. Because from what you’ve said he has told you, he has produced some very good marketing material about himself. What you actually know so far is: he an addict, he left his kid in another country, he doesn’t try to contact him, his ex refuses to have him around in any way, he has been sober 5 years and done fuck all about contact his child, he has saved an undisclosed amount in an account (it could $10), he writes a card and puts it in a drawer (big fucking deal)

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:33

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 18:27

Another man who hates women. Who'd have known from his first post?Hmm

Most Mumsnetters

I don’t hate women…I dislike anyone judging another persons circumstance when they haven’t met them.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:34

always careful
one time not being as careful as possible

So in fact not always careful.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:35

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:33

I don’t hate women…I dislike anyone judging another persons circumstance when they haven’t met them.

Really, cause you’ve called the mum in this case a deadbeat with absolutely no evidence to back that up.

I think you just don’t like it when you, or people who remind you of yourself, are judged poorly.

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 18:37

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:33

I don’t hate women…I dislike anyone judging another persons circumstance when they haven’t met them.

Yet you've got a lot to say about this guys ex. Who even OP has never met. You wouldn't happen to be a misogynistic hypocrite would you?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:39

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:24

I’m surprised you need contraception when you’re clearly such an opinionated and judgemental person.

that’s nasty shit. you’re being mean because you feel a bit shitty. sort it out mate!

Nasty like being called a betrayer and coward by an ignorant person who doesn’t know anybody else’s circumstances? I hadn’t insulted anyone on this thread.
More words of wisdom ?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:40

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 18:37

Yet you've got a lot to say about this guys ex. Who even OP has never met. You wouldn't happen to be a misogynistic hypocrite would you?

And you haven’t ever met the guy either but at least she has.
Hypocrite? Ironic

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:42

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:35

Really, cause you’ve called the mum in this case a deadbeat with absolutely no evidence to back that up.

I think you just don’t like it when you, or people who remind you of yourself, are judged poorly.

Edited

‘Told him she couldn’t get pregnant’
’Told him she didn’t want their child knowing who he was’
= Deadbeat

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:43

Yo i don’t know what’s gone on for you but it doesn’t have to be like this. we’re not the enemy. for some reason you’ve massively identified with this guy in the op to the extent you’re really letting yourself down with how nasty you’re getting online. go and have a think.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 18:45

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:33

I don’t hate women…I dislike anyone judging another persons circumstance when they haven’t met them.

You called the mother who does everything for her children a deadbeat parent. Then your misogyny oozed out onto the women on this thread.🤢

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:46

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:34

always careful
one time not being as careful as possible

So in fact not always careful.

As far as I was aware my ex did still not want children.
We were careful, not perfect like some posters here, or this man’s trapping deadbeat mum who some of you are holding up on a pedestal bizarrely

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:48

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 18:45

You called the mother who does everything for her children a deadbeat parent. Then your misogyny oozed out onto the women on this thread.🤢

‘Everything for her children’
possibly including trapping his father, lying to him, and then blocking access.
And we assume that outside of that she’s a model mother…
misogynistic? Stop being silly

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:52

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:43

Yo i don’t know what’s gone on for you but it doesn’t have to be like this. we’re not the enemy. for some reason you’ve massively identified with this guy in the op to the extent you’re really letting yourself down with how nasty you’re getting online. go and have a think.

I identify with aspects of what he’s apprently said yes, but what is your point ?
A woman is not automatically a hero just because she is there and a man is not automatically a villain for not being there.
Thats what the narrative of this thread is suggesting, possibly to the detriment of the OP, if the guy is genuine.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:55

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:46

As far as I was aware my ex did still not want children.
We were careful, not perfect like some posters here, or this man’s trapping deadbeat mum who some of you are holding up on a pedestal bizarrely

Using contraception consistently isn’t actually that hard so no need to get all high and mighty with the “perfect” stuff. I used contraception “perfectly” my whole life except for the times I wanted to get pregnant so I feel confident that you don’t need to be made of special stuff to achieve it.

Sounds like you’re mad that your ex “trapped” you by realising once she was pregnant that she couldn’t actually go through with an abortion; this happens to lots of people once they see that beating heart on a scan.

That’s not enough to accurately call the mum in this situation a deadbeat; as others have pointed out, she’s raising a child alone, which is an enormous amount of work, just like the enormous amount of work your ex is putting in too. Your guilt is showing.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 18:56

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:47

I’d have felt much more of a deadbeat dad had I stayed. Sounds like it was similar for the guy in the OP.
Awful man ? Maybe. Whatever. You clearly live up to your username, a real Peach

You do realise @Yo808 , women do not owe you dates. It's the 21st century and we can choose to date or not date whoever we like, based on whatever criteria we like. And you are not going to be top of the list.

For women, the consequences of ignoring red flags are often violence, by the way. Many of us have learned that lesson multiple times. An estimated 1 in 6 women have been raped or assaulted, I would be surprised if it wasn't higher. Maybe you could think about that and be a little more respectful, when you're telling us who we should and shouldn't consider dating.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:05

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:55

Using contraception consistently isn’t actually that hard so no need to get all high and mighty with the “perfect” stuff. I used contraception “perfectly” my whole life except for the times I wanted to get pregnant so I feel confident that you don’t need to be made of special stuff to achieve it.

Sounds like you’re mad that your ex “trapped” you by realising once she was pregnant that she couldn’t actually go through with an abortion; this happens to lots of people once they see that beating heart on a scan.

That’s not enough to accurately call the mum in this situation a deadbeat; as others have pointed out, she’s raising a child alone, which is an enormous amount of work, just like the enormous amount of work your ex is putting in too. Your guilt is showing.

The first year or two of having a baby is incredibly hard but after that, raising a child if you’re in good health isn’t harder or more time consuming than most work men and women do every day. In fact it’s much less so especially when they start nursery or school. Of course definition of raising a child well is quite vague since hardly anybody really brings their children up properly, but that’s partly because of the society we live in.

Yes, Sometimes things happen, though, and I wouldn’t say my ex trapped me at all, that’d be unfair, but at the same time I certainly didn’t ’betray’ her has been suggested. That is also unfair.
A balanced opinion should be given to the OP

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:09

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 18:56

You do realise @Yo808 , women do not owe you dates. It's the 21st century and we can choose to date or not date whoever we like, based on whatever criteria we like. And you are not going to be top of the list.

For women, the consequences of ignoring red flags are often violence, by the way. Many of us have learned that lesson multiple times. An estimated 1 in 6 women have been raped or assaulted, I would be surprised if it wasn't higher. Maybe you could think about that and be a little more respectful, when you're telling us who we should and shouldn't consider dating.

I’ve not tried to tell you anything.
Many posts here have tried to tell the OP, despite getting on really well and clicking with her date, that she shouldn’t see him again, though.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:11

@Yo808
Also, you’ve made up the whole “trapped” thing; the OP says her date never accused his ex of trapping him. His child’s mother was always open about wanting a child, she also said she didn’t think she could get pregnant, which could quite plausibly be true; several of my friends struggled to conceive before having kids, with or without help. If he took that to mean no contraception was necessary, that’s a pretty naive view of human biology on his part.

And her decision not to tell her child he was the father came after she “eventually” got into another relationship, after what must have been a considerable period of parenting completely solo and the man in question showing no interest in being part of his son’s life.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:12

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 18:56

You do realise @Yo808 , women do not owe you dates. It's the 21st century and we can choose to date or not date whoever we like, based on whatever criteria we like. And you are not going to be top of the list.

For women, the consequences of ignoring red flags are often violence, by the way. Many of us have learned that lesson multiple times. An estimated 1 in 6 women have been raped or assaulted, I would be surprised if it wasn't higher. Maybe you could think about that and be a little more respectful, when you're telling us who we should and shouldn't consider dating.

But there’s absolutely no evidence from her post that the guy is violent or ever has been, there’s no red flag there in that regard.

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 19:14

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:05

The first year or two of having a baby is incredibly hard but after that, raising a child if you’re in good health isn’t harder or more time consuming than most work men and women do every day. In fact it’s much less so especially when they start nursery or school. Of course definition of raising a child well is quite vague since hardly anybody really brings their children up properly, but that’s partly because of the society we live in.

Yes, Sometimes things happen, though, and I wouldn’t say my ex trapped me at all, that’d be unfair, but at the same time I certainly didn’t ’betray’ her has been suggested. That is also unfair.
A balanced opinion should be given to the OP

Yeah, nobody that has parented would ever say that nonsense. Back to your hole please.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:15

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:11

@Yo808
Also, you’ve made up the whole “trapped” thing; the OP says her date never accused his ex of trapping him. His child’s mother was always open about wanting a child, she also said she didn’t think she could get pregnant, which could quite plausibly be true; several of my friends struggled to conceive before having kids, with or without help. If he took that to mean no contraception was necessary, that’s a pretty naive view of human biology on his part.

And her decision not to tell her child he was the father came after she “eventually” got into another relationship, after what must have been a considerable period of parenting completely solo and the man in question showing no interest in being part of his son’s life.

Yes it does say he didn’t accuse her directly of trapping him.
‘didn’t think she could have kids’ and ‘ so she’d never be alone’ together are a red flag though, since we’re on that subject.

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 19:16

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:17

First of all we did use contraception and were always careful, but one time being not as careful as possible, sometime things happen.
We’d both always said we didn’t want children and had discussed termination but she changed her mind once we did get pregnant.
so, I didn’t ‘betray’ her, thank you

Secondly, the guy in the OP, regardless of whether you think he, or I, are scum, did not abandon his son. Not in the way your man-issues mind obviously thinks.
I’m surprised you need contraception when you’re clearly such an opinionated and judgemental person.

So you didn't always use contraception properly, just like i said.
You did betrayed her
You walked out after knocking her up. Take some fucking responsibility for yourself.
He moved to the other side of the Atlantic and has never met his son. What the hell would you call that if not abandonment?
So judgmental of me to think parents shouldnt neglect their kids 😂

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 19:17

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:05

The first year or two of having a baby is incredibly hard but after that, raising a child if you’re in good health isn’t harder or more time consuming than most work men and women do every day. In fact it’s much less so especially when they start nursery or school. Of course definition of raising a child well is quite vague since hardly anybody really brings their children up properly, but that’s partly because of the society we live in.

Yes, Sometimes things happen, though, and I wouldn’t say my ex trapped me at all, that’d be unfair, but at the same time I certainly didn’t ’betray’ her has been suggested. That is also unfair.
A balanced opinion should be given to the OP

Obviously you’ve never parented much. I have always been the primary parent for my kids and hands-down it is as or more demanding than my high-level professional job. Obviously most parents, especially single parents, do both - work and parent, they’re not sitting around during the day when their kid or kids are at nursery or school.

It does not get easier once you’re out of the nappies stage; the needs change, that’s all. Your laughable claim that it does only shows how disengaged you are as a parent.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 19:17

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 19:14

Yeah, nobody that has parented would ever say that nonsense. Back to your hole please.

All the parents who have children to avoid work and claim benefits? Those parents wouldn’t say that would they.