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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
Arlanymor · 11/10/2026 16:38

I would have said "You're looking into access... I wish you'd spend the time you put aside for this date to do JUST THAT." And then 'ta ra' and I'd be on my way. I mean he literally moved continents to avoid his responsibility - likely hoping it wouldn't follow him. He's had enough time. Don't be naive.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 16:50

JoyousWriter · 11/10/2026 16:36

Oh, come off it!

He's done absolutely the bare minimum possible.

He's a loser.

His ex said she didn’t want their son knowing him, if he was still an alcoholic, fair enough, if he’d sorted himself out or trying to get there, what do you want him to do exactly?
Not really fair on him to try and stick around like a valiant saint while his ex messes him around, she might have been part of the reason for his problems.

He could have just said nothing, at least it sounds as though he’s made an attempt to be an honest which makes him immediately better than a good proportion of people

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 16:54

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 16:50

His ex said she didn’t want their son knowing him, if he was still an alcoholic, fair enough, if he’d sorted himself out or trying to get there, what do you want him to do exactly?
Not really fair on him to try and stick around like a valiant saint while his ex messes him around, she might have been part of the reason for his problems.

He could have just said nothing, at least it sounds as though he’s made an attempt to be an honest which makes him immediately better than a good proportion of people

The bar is so low for men. He's told the truth about not bothering with his own child, pat on the back. Really?

EverybodyLTB · 11/10/2026 16:56

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 16:50

His ex said she didn’t want their son knowing him, if he was still an alcoholic, fair enough, if he’d sorted himself out or trying to get there, what do you want him to do exactly?
Not really fair on him to try and stick around like a valiant saint while his ex messes him around, she might have been part of the reason for his problems.

He could have just said nothing, at least it sounds as though he’s made an attempt to be an honest which makes him immediately better than a good proportion of people

But he sorted himself out (allegedly) 5 years ago. How could she possibly have stopped him progressing contact, the child was one when the man got sober? You can’t alienate a 1yo and most people don’t move continents when there’s a child they’re being “blocked from seeing” they seek a court order. 5 years is too long, so as pp said he’s good at compartmentalising to a terrifying degree. I doubt that makes him a good prospect. He hasn’t done a single thing towards being in that child’s life and yet here you are slagging off the mum who’s raising him. Why are you so determined to make excuses for a loser of a man who doesn’t see his child? Bizarre.

speakball · 11/10/2026 16:58

That’s hardly what I said.

No I haven’t, frankly it sounds like you have issues of your own since your opinion is one of the more extreme ones here, maybe you shouldn’t have kids either

yeah. that’s what you said. you said a person who thinks someone who runs away from their kids shouldn’t have anymore because they think that. can you explain how someone who thinks people who run away from their kids shouldn’t have kids. what if the poster who said this already has kids and is like an active daily parent. you think their kids should be removed because they have a poor view of parents who aren’t stepping up with the daily grind?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:02

EverybodyLTB · 11/10/2026 16:56

But he sorted himself out (allegedly) 5 years ago. How could she possibly have stopped him progressing contact, the child was one when the man got sober? You can’t alienate a 1yo and most people don’t move continents when there’s a child they’re being “blocked from seeing” they seek a court order. 5 years is too long, so as pp said he’s good at compartmentalising to a terrifying degree. I doubt that makes him a good prospect. He hasn’t done a single thing towards being in that child’s life and yet here you are slagging off the mum who’s raising him. Why are you so determined to make excuses for a loser of a man who doesn’t see his child? Bizarre.

Not slagging anyone off, just saying you or I don’t know the circumstances and find it pretty terrible that everyone just jumps on a guy who has clearly had issues and supports the mother who it does sound like pretty much tried to trap him. And then blocked him.
The mother has a new man, the guy has explained that due to circumstances it might be unfair on his son now to make contact. Understandable.
He got blocked from seeing his son, turned over a new leaf in his life.What do you want him to do? Give up his job and new life to go home and beg to see his son who he was blocked from seeing? Sounds fair

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:04

Yo808 i honestly don’t know if you’re naive or otherwise. you do appear to have problems using reason and logic of that i’m sure.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:10

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:04

Yo808 i honestly don’t know if you’re naive or otherwise. you do appear to have problems using reason and logic of that i’m sure.

By Naive do you mean in trusting what someone would say as the truth? Maybe.
Maybe it boils down to, the guy has made mistakes and was an addict so he’s not worth anything. Fair enough if that is your opinion.

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:19

Maybe it boils down to, the guy has made mistakes and was an addict so he’s not worth anything

it is very much and pretty much the best way of seeing a persons character. what did they do with their mistakes. tackle them or create a zero effort narrative light on detail and a story that runs on the fairy dust of the hopes of the other person.

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 17:25

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 14:16

Sometimes it’s more easily said than done to be happy around them.
My ex and I always said that we didn’t want children, but absolutely it’s her choice to decide that she wanted our son and I’m glad she did, she’s not perfect either but a lot nicer than the Ops dates ex apparently is.
Your question ‘who is worse’- well, definitely her, if she did in fact say she couldn’t get pregnant and then blocked him from seeing his boy.
No I haven’t, frankly it sounds like you have issues of your own since your opinion is one of the more extreme ones here, maybe you shouldn’t have kids either

You didn't want children, to the extent you walked out on a long term relationship after you impregnated her, but you still havent had a vasectomy to stop you conceiving any more unwanted children.

Keep telling yourself the lies you need to so you dont have to confront what a pathetic waster you are. The woman who stays and raises the child by herself is, in your opinion, worse than the child abandoner. No decent person would think like that. You only have this addict's word that she even said any of that about struggling to conceive. Why are you so keen to believe him? Maybe it was more like your situation where an idiot man chose not to use a condom and then didn't want to deal with his fuck up because he's a coward.

Its laughable you think i shouldnt have children because i think its wrong to abandon your kids. Surely thats just basic parenting - being there to actually parent the child?

i dont have kids and dont want them. Unlike you, i use contraception so i dont create an unwanted child. Shame you are not more like me. The risk of being left a single mother is too high and that's not what i want from my life. Just look at your behaviour - you betrayed your long term girlfriend by walking away after getting her pregnant. And you still wont take responsibility to stop that happening again. Why would any woman trust men when so many are like you?

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:28

not worth anything

do you feel that women who don’t want to date you think you’re not worth anything? do you think the people you wouldn't want to date are not worth anything?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:29

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:19

Maybe it boils down to, the guy has made mistakes and was an addict so he’s not worth anything

it is very much and pretty much the best way of seeing a persons character. what did they do with their mistakes. tackle them or create a zero effort narrative light on detail and a story that runs on the fairy dust of the hopes of the other person.

Sounds like he’s made a big effort. At least he’s sobered up and got himself together for himself. Can be there for his son now possibly. Or at least as he gets older he might.
Could have stayed and been stuck struggling and no good for his son, if he ever got to see him anyway.
Could have just said nothing on this date, but at least has put it out there.

Thousands of mums and dads are ‘there’ but might as well not be (or worse).

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 17:29

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:04

Yo808 i honestly don’t know if you’re naive or otherwise. you do appear to have problems using reason and logic of that i’m sure.

Hes not naive. Hes just another one who walked out after knocking up his girlfriend and doesnt want to accept what an awful man that makes him.

User454545454546565 · 11/10/2026 17:36

speakball · 11/10/2026 17:04

Yo808 i honestly don’t know if you’re naive or otherwise. you do appear to have problems using reason and logic of that i’m sure.

Most of Mumsnet has problems using reason and logic, though. If the mother of this poor child had been on Relationships posting about how she was trying to get pregnant by a traumatised inadequate alcoholic father she'd be absolutely flamed.

So many other problems here though, OP. What are his parents like? He might be a domestic abuser, he might be anything. He's gone to a live in a different country. He might want to go back to that country.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:47

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 17:29

Hes not naive. Hes just another one who walked out after knocking up his girlfriend and doesnt want to accept what an awful man that makes him.

I’d have felt much more of a deadbeat dad had I stayed. Sounds like it was similar for the guy in the OP.
Awful man ? Maybe. Whatever. You clearly live up to your username, a real Peach

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:00

speakball · 11/10/2026 16:58

That’s hardly what I said.

No I haven’t, frankly it sounds like you have issues of your own since your opinion is one of the more extreme ones here, maybe you shouldn’t have kids either

yeah. that’s what you said. you said a person who thinks someone who runs away from their kids shouldn’t have anymore because they think that. can you explain how someone who thinks people who run away from their kids shouldn’t have kids. what if the poster who said this already has kids and is like an active daily parent. you think their kids should be removed because they have a poor view of parents who aren’t stepping up with the daily grind?

I did not say that.
also, this guy was hardly running away if what he said is true.
I think it’s wrong to judge the circumstances based on your own experience as a woman, or as a man.
‘the daily grind’? You realise that men might leave for other reasons than not wanting to put the ‘work’ in?
So many women have children because they don’t want to work, then they say, the dad can’t be bothered to put the work in when unless the dad is a true deadbeat he might be working twice as much as the mother is with their kid.

To be clear I think if you’re going to judge people without knowing them then it’s probably not a good trait to have as a parent. You disagree ?

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:08

To be clear I think if you’re going to judge people without knowing them then it’s probably not a good trait to have as a parent. You disagree ?

and yet here you are on mumsnet!!

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 18:10

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 17:47

I’d have felt much more of a deadbeat dad had I stayed. Sounds like it was similar for the guy in the OP.
Awful man ? Maybe. Whatever. You clearly live up to your username, a real Peach

Hahaha god, some people will tell themselves anything to justify their shitty behaviour.

I know people parenting through all kinds of illnesses; right now I have friends who are parenting through bowel cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer, depression, multiple sclerosis and CPTSD, just off the top of my head. Their illnesses don’t define them, they are decent people and good parents.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 18:12

Still ignoring the fact that the mum sounds like a deadbeat mum.

Erm, the parent who didn't abandon her child? Who provides a home for him. Food and clothes. Who takes him to school and looks after him when he's sick. Talks to him and lives with him. You think she sounds like the deadbeat parent @Yo808?ConfusedHmm

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:15

i think yo808 must have an axe to grind because they are confusing and illogical. it’s something to see the gymnastics.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 18:17

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 17:25

You didn't want children, to the extent you walked out on a long term relationship after you impregnated her, but you still havent had a vasectomy to stop you conceiving any more unwanted children.

Keep telling yourself the lies you need to so you dont have to confront what a pathetic waster you are. The woman who stays and raises the child by herself is, in your opinion, worse than the child abandoner. No decent person would think like that. You only have this addict's word that she even said any of that about struggling to conceive. Why are you so keen to believe him? Maybe it was more like your situation where an idiot man chose not to use a condom and then didn't want to deal with his fuck up because he's a coward.

Its laughable you think i shouldnt have children because i think its wrong to abandon your kids. Surely thats just basic parenting - being there to actually parent the child?

i dont have kids and dont want them. Unlike you, i use contraception so i dont create an unwanted child. Shame you are not more like me. The risk of being left a single mother is too high and that's not what i want from my life. Just look at your behaviour - you betrayed your long term girlfriend by walking away after getting her pregnant. And you still wont take responsibility to stop that happening again. Why would any woman trust men when so many are like you?

Edited

First of all we did use contraception and were always careful, but one time being not as careful as possible, sometime things happen.
We’d both always said we didn’t want children and had discussed termination but she changed her mind once we did get pregnant.
so, I didn’t ‘betray’ her, thank you

Secondly, the guy in the OP, regardless of whether you think he, or I, are scum, did not abandon his son. Not in the way your man-issues mind obviously thinks.
I’m surprised you need contraception when you’re clearly such an opinionated and judgemental person.

MissRaspberryRipples · 11/10/2026 18:20

To a lot of posters the way you have described this guy screams some red flag behaviour. I have an ex who's said similar things(not the drinking etc) he tells everyone a fine story of how I've stopped him from having any contact with our son. He says he misses him he spins the yarn of he pays child support(he doesn't) and that he's tried everything and been told too many times to fuck off(he hasn't). He contacted a solicitor ONCE when our son was around 5 trying to accuse me of neglecting him and that social services were involved in my family(they weren't and haven't ever been). As soon as I responded to show his solicitor that my son's dad didn't even bother to show up to sign the birth certificate let alone bother making contact and giving them proof of no social services involvement he didn't bother responding to the letter I sent along with a copy of my son's birth certificate. So much for wanting to establish contact. My son is now 16 and still hasn't had contact with his dad yet my ex still shamefully lies saying I stop him

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:21

I did not say that.

i quoted you. i copied and pasted the bit where you said that. has your acc been hacked?

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:24

I’m surprised you need contraception when you’re clearly such an opinionated and judgemental person.

that’s nasty shit. you’re being mean because you feel a bit shitty. sort it out mate!

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 18:27

speakball · 11/10/2026 18:24

I’m surprised you need contraception when you’re clearly such an opinionated and judgemental person.

that’s nasty shit. you’re being mean because you feel a bit shitty. sort it out mate!

Another man who hates women. Who'd have known from his first post?Hmm

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