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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
Livelovebehappy · 11/10/2026 10:22

ForTipsyFinch · 11/10/2026 09:08

No. And additionally, you’ve met this man a single time and have already produced a paragraph, that in itself is never a good sign. I would say that’s an awful lot of emotional labour over a stranger.

Agree. Discussing this on date 1 suggests he wants to get it out there to see your reaction so that he can then move on to the next one without wasting time on a second date if you dont buy into his BS. Far too early to be sharing this info on a first date.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 10:22

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:18

Yes I knew id get a similar response to yours.
Yes you do have a point.
I did walk out but I’d rather that than be unhappy around my son.
Sticking with this guy, his ex sounds worse than him frankly so I don’t understand all the negative comments about him when it sounds like his ex was really more of a ‘massive red flag’ than he was.
His ex didn’t want him to see his son, if he’s managed to pull himself out of whatever hole he was in he can move to whatever country he wants. What’s he going to do? Not move on and wait around seeing if she’ll let him see him?

Edited

He didn't even bother trying to go through the court system?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:26

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 10:22

He didn't even bother trying to go through the court system?

The poster said his mum didn’t want their son knowing who he was? So he’s expected to fight her through the courts to see him ? Assuming he got in to a better place why does he have to do that?
Everything isn’t so black and white but 90% of the posts here are just vilifying him unfairly and not mentioning his exes behaviour

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:28

speakball · 11/10/2026 10:07

Some of the posts here ‘deadbeat dad’ and so on, maybe you have a point, but are you perfect?

tell me, do you really think that the people who think the dad has behaved poorly are thinking that because that poster is sitting there thinking that they have never made a mistake? are you suggesting that because we all make mistakes it’s unkind to assess a person’s ability to be honest with themselves and us? i really hope you don’t meant that and that you do care about if people are being honest with you, or themselves because that’s a really unsafe place to be in the world regardless.

I don’t really understand your post?
You seem to be assuming that he isn’t being honest ?

Spicysenorita · 11/10/2026 10:28

NO! Never

my childs father abandonned me in pregnancy, hes never met his 3yo child! i hope every woman he meets looks at him in disgust and leaves him to grow into an old lonely man.

only a fucked up, psychologically off human is capable of doing this, to their own child.
hes disgusting for doing so. I despair the women who support these low lives.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 10:32

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:26

The poster said his mum didn’t want their son knowing who he was? So he’s expected to fight her through the courts to see him ? Assuming he got in to a better place why does he have to do that?
Everything isn’t so black and white but 90% of the posts here are just vilifying him unfairly and not mentioning his exes behaviour

Assuming he got to a better place, I just can't fathom why someone wouldn't want to try their best to be there for their son, especially if they suspected their ex was unable to be a good parent.

I have a family member whose partner has left without ever bothering to see their child. I just cannot fathom knowing that I've got a child out there, but not bothering to take the steps necessary to make sure they're getting on ok, their life is starting out ok.

And we're not trying to put his guy on trial here. The OP is asking whether we would continue to date him. And I wouldn't. I would find someone with less emotional baggage, where there's less risk of me being spun and elaborate sob story by a conman. If you think that makes me unfair then you're entitled to your opinion I guess.

FirmSnake · 11/10/2026 10:33

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:26

The poster said his mum didn’t want their son knowing who he was? So he’s expected to fight her through the courts to see him ? Assuming he got in to a better place why does he have to do that?
Everything isn’t so black and white but 90% of the posts here are just vilifying him unfairly and not mentioning his exes behaviour

He doesn't have to do anythjng. But he should want to.
We don't actually know anythjng about the exes behaviour do we? It isnt on mothers to facilitate relationships with fathers that cant be bothered. His absence is entirely his own responsibility.

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 10:40

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:18

Yes I knew id get a similar response to yours.
Yes you do have a point.
I did walk out but I’d rather that than be unhappy around my son.
Sticking with this guy, his ex sounds worse than him frankly so I don’t understand all the negative comments about him when it sounds like his ex was really more of a ‘massive red flag’ than he was.
His ex didn’t want him to see his son, if he’s managed to pull himself out of whatever hole he was in he can move to whatever country he wants. What’s he going to do? Not move on and wait around seeing if she’ll let him see him?

Edited

You could have sorted your issues so you could be happy around your child. I hope you've at least had a vasectomy now so you won't create anymore children you dont want.

The woman who is raising the child by herself after her ex ditched her is the worse one? Really?
As to what he should have done. Got clean and then built a relationship with his son, using the courts if necessary.

blahdeeblah1 · 11/10/2026 10:48

I would possibly date a former addict (with a lot of trepidation), but no way would I date someone who doesn’t have contact with their own child.

socialbatteryisdead · 11/10/2026 10:59

No.
I wouldn’t date an addict.

I was told by my exh he couldn’t see his child. I was a very young foolish person, and I believed him , he turned out to be the worst father ever.
Why can’t he post cards ? Or get them delivered ?
He moved to another continent, so was never going to be able to see his son regularly anyway.

speakball · 11/10/2026 11:15

Yes I knew id get a similar response to yours.

eww.

speakball · 11/10/2026 11:21

I don’t like to be pushy but also like getting straight to the point.

oh dont worry op he is MORE than comfortable getting his needs met even if that need requires moving across oceans. I’m sure he’ll appreciate a few frank questions seeing as he's all about doing what’s best for numero uno even if that causes difficulty.

CitrusBlossom · 11/10/2026 11:25

OP you’re not going to get an unbiased opinion on here. Mothers are always right on MN 🙄 In my personal life I know of four instances of parental alienation, three committed by mothers and one by a father. It really winds me up when women on here claim parental alienation is all a myth made up by ‘deadbeat dads’ supported by absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I supported my DP through hell for years as he tried to stop the ex alienating his son. Luckily the courts saw through her.

A mother saying she does not want the kid to know his dad is parental alienation. If this man is serious in that he wants to get to know his son then he needs to put his money where his mouth is. It wouldn’t put me off him if your gut feeling is that he cares. That might change as you get to know him.

speakball · 11/10/2026 11:27

I mean his statement of not speaking badly of someone is actually implying his ex was bad so kind of contradicts.

i noticed that the moment i read it. it’s specious. it’s horrible. and sorry, but that doesn’t work once you’ve had to witness it being said by terrible people about people they have harmed. i’ve never known someone to use it and not actually be the actual piece of shit they’re VERY MUCH trying to make you think someone else it. it’s a trick. sleight of hand.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 12:12

speakball · 11/10/2026 11:27

I mean his statement of not speaking badly of someone is actually implying his ex was bad so kind of contradicts.

i noticed that the moment i read it. it’s specious. it’s horrible. and sorry, but that doesn’t work once you’ve had to witness it being said by terrible people about people they have harmed. i’ve never known someone to use it and not actually be the actual piece of shit they’re VERY MUCH trying to make you think someone else it. it’s a trick. sleight of hand.

Absolutely agree with you here. And both of the manipulative, predatory men I've been in relationships with have told me stories early on about their crazy/mean etc exes. Which turned out to be utter nonsense, and I'm sure they're telling similar stories about how unhinged I was now. Once you've been there you absolutely don't want to take the risk again.

speakball · 11/10/2026 12:23

Everything isn’t so black and white but 90% of the posts here are just vilifying him unfairly and not mentioning his exes behaviour

its just wisdom and a life lived with your eyes open. it’s knowing and having experienced people who you have come to know as pretty terrible where they had started of giving you ‘yes this feature of me is demonstrably terrible but it’s okay because of xyz’. we are what we do. nothing else.

Acalmerkarma · 11/10/2026 12:39

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 09:52

Hello
this is my first post on here so bare with me.
I’m male and I guess an absantee dad and a lot of what this guy has told you resonates with me.

My ex and I had our son three years ago and we both said we never really wanted children. We were always pretty careful about not getting pregnant but it happened probably the first time in 11 years that we were not so careful.
I was and still am in quite a bad place like this guy sounds like he was, mine isn’t helped by some bad joint problems, thyroid disease and other health problems.
I left to live with family because I didn’t feel like I could be a good dad and didn’t feel like I was well enough to look after our son properly. I’ve never really thought it was fair to have children if you’re not in a good position for their future.
I still see my son though my ex has recently met someone new and I’ve been finding a bit upsetting after I’ve seen my son thinking about everything.
It sounds like this guy has done really well to get sober, has a good job.
I admit I could have done more but I really have wanted to feel better and be there for my son.
Maybe what he’s saying is all genuine and he did want to be a dad but just couldn’t pull himself together but now has and feels like he can be a better dad?
Some of the posts here ‘deadbeat dad’ and so on, maybe you have a point, but are you perfect?

Absolutely nobody is perfect and some people do tell the truth in such situations. There are just so many reasons why this relationship could make someone very insecure and troubled. Unfortunately, a lot of fathers are disengaged from their children, including those who live with them, that I for one felt compelled to advise the OP against it. He might very well be a lovely man who is trying hard, or he could be a thorough rotter.

We only have the information from the OP who was clearly concerned after the date, otherwise she wouldn't have posted on here. Also, it isn't about being perfect or expecting others to be. He seeks solace in alcohol, or has done until recently and has had catastrophic results in losing contact with his son. If the OP continues to see him, she may very well have her heart broken and lose her self respect. The longer she stays with him, the more an emotional dependency is likely to be entrenched and it could be disastrous for her.

It seems to me that she has stated her concerns in the OP, but done so there and in subsequent posts to loyally defend him. After one date! It feels like she is hoping one of us will say something like,

"People are so cynical, he seems suc a lovely man. Grab it while you can!"

I feel you might be glossing over details which are relevant in the hope that we give you permission to go ahead, which means that you are already preparing for it to go wrong and make others responsible for the (probably unwise) decisions.

I don't think body who has seen this pain at close quarters, or suffered it themselves would encourage you to proceed. It is a lot of sadness, on top of everything else, which you will be carrying, at least by adjacency.

NotMyDayJob · 11/10/2026 12:47

He may have turned his life around but realistically what relationship does he plan to have (legal advice or not) from the United States while his child is in the UK.

as someone who had a father who effectively abandoned and my brothers I can tell you being present and involved will always mean more than money and cards that are not sent. I would guess that by the time he gets his act together those cards will be meaningless. If he could get himself together to basically emigrate he could get himself together to go to court to see his child.

Airyfairy77 · 11/10/2026 12:47

Being the Mum of two kids (now late teens) whose Dad left when they were very young and has never bothered with them since then, despite me begging him to be in their lives, it’s a no from me. Anyone who abandons a child, for whatever reason, is not a good person in my mind.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 12:56

Certainly my motivation for posting was to give the advice that I wish I had taken years ago, when faced with emotional stories from a new date that didn't quite add up. All the trauma that could have been avoided.

Maybe OP is right and this one is different. I hope so. If not then you're going to need the good luck.

EverybodyLTB · 11/10/2026 13:20

The gymnastics involved to place the blame on the mum that we know nothing about, to absolve the man (of 1 date!) of his shit actions, is insane. He’s telling you who he is and what he’s done, which is appalling stuff. He’s laid it out on the first date so he can check on who has the least self esteem and lowest bar.

pp saying it’s in the child’s best interest, I half agree, but only because he’s left it for five years too long, and because he’s still blaming the mum and taking no actual responsibility. HIS actions are what’s made it in the child’s best interest to maintain lack of contact. I hate this guy already. OP needs to get better at reading people’s straight talk, and understanding motives. I’m pretty sure the naysayers here, and I count myself proudly among them, are not doing so just for the sake of it. There’s experience and understanding here and, frankly, basic psychology. A man who lays out a load of shit on the first date, when that shit is reallyyyyy shit, is not someone to tie yourself in knots to sympathise with and understand. Run!

For those saying parental alienation bla bla. Literally get a fucking grip. How do you alienate a parent who gives no shits for five years? What was the mum supposed to do, tell the child that daddy is busy and loved him loads and will be along any minute? A man taken not one step towards being a parent, and in fact has taken more steps to distance himself. Take a look at yourselves, making excuses for a dreadful father. For the absent dad chiming in upthread, all I hear is me, me, me. Bollocks.

As I said in my first post, try and take my kids from me, see how that works out! I would claw my way through hell to get to my kids, and anyone who doesn’t feel so inclined, probably is better off out of their lives.

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 14:01

User454545454546565 · 11/10/2026 05:04

What is his current relationship to drugs and alcohol, and what new coping strategies does he use when life gets tricky, as it inevitably will?

Sober 5 years, no drugs doesnt smoke.
His hobbies are reading books, walks, gym and said he likes to play pool in his free time.

OP posts:
Credittocress · 11/10/2026 14:08

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 14:01

Sober 5 years, no drugs doesnt smoke.
His hobbies are reading books, walks, gym and said he likes to play pool in his free time.

You seem determined to date him, so just date him.

But either he’s a dick who walked away from a child; or he’s a nice guy who can compartmentalise to a terrifying degree. Neither do a happy relationship make.

speakball · 11/10/2026 14:14

His hobbies are reading books, walks, gym and said he likes to play pool in his free time

wow, so much free time available for him to have given an actual shit. He’s not some tortured poet finding his way in a foreign country op who just needs love and understanding, he's a bloke who has done a shit thing and has done nothing about it. and appears to want to portray it in a ‘but i’m just essentially a great guy’ way. i don’t know what archetype he's giving you, but it’s probably as flakey as it looks when viewed with honesty.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 14:16

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 10:40

You could have sorted your issues so you could be happy around your child. I hope you've at least had a vasectomy now so you won't create anymore children you dont want.

The woman who is raising the child by herself after her ex ditched her is the worse one? Really?
As to what he should have done. Got clean and then built a relationship with his son, using the courts if necessary.

Sometimes it’s more easily said than done to be happy around them.
My ex and I always said that we didn’t want children, but absolutely it’s her choice to decide that she wanted our son and I’m glad she did, she’s not perfect either but a lot nicer than the Ops dates ex apparently is.
Your question ‘who is worse’- well, definitely her, if she did in fact say she couldn’t get pregnant and then blocked him from seeing his boy.
No I haven’t, frankly it sounds like you have issues of your own since your opinion is one of the more extreme ones here, maybe you shouldn’t have kids either