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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
StickyToffeePuddingAndIceCream321 · 11/10/2026 07:26

I wouldn't continue dating someone who was an alcoholic, you went on 1 date, throw this one back! Alcoholics will always be alcoholics, if you have ever been close to anyone who has suffered from this addiction you will know this.

Him having a son he doesn't see is the least of your worries with this man.

U53rName · 11/10/2026 07:30

thegrind · 10/10/2026 22:04

hm. I‘m assuming you have no children OP? Honest question: Why on earth would you hook up with someone who already has a child, deadbeat dad or not? Why choose a ‚kind’, in shape, otherwise average man who had significant baggage?

This. I would advise all childless young women to give men who already have children a wide berth.

cloudtreecarpet · 11/10/2026 07:36

U53rName · 11/10/2026 07:30

This. I would advise all childless young women to give men who already have children a wide berth.

Yes, if they are young and see children in their future this is good advice.

Why complicate your life this way?

U53rName · 11/10/2026 07:39

cloudtreecarpet · 11/10/2026 07:36

Yes, if they are young and see children in their future this is good advice.

Why complicate your life this way?

Even if young women don’t want children, I would still offer this advice. Children come first—why sign up for being with a man who’s going to prioritise his children with another woman over you?

cloudtreecarpet · 11/10/2026 07:40

U53rName · 11/10/2026 07:39

Even if young women don’t want children, I would still offer this advice. Children come first—why sign up for being with a man who’s going to prioritise his children with another woman over you?

Good point!

Summerhut2025 · 11/10/2026 08:05

I think the alcohol addiction would bother me more in case he ever relapsed. I can see why the mother would cut contact with his son in that situation. Proceed with caution.

strictlybusinessuntildecember · 11/10/2026 08:15

I don’t be you can “genuinely care” for a child you have never met and doesn’t know about you.

i do understand that people make mistakes and maybe the mother hasn’t been completely blameless here in saying she won’t facilitate even sending cards but then again as a mother of children whose dad barely sees them letters in the post Would raise more questions and likely harm than good. “Why does he send a letter but doesn’t bother to see me…am I not good enough” type feelings. If he lives on the other side of the ocean and has no intention to have a regular parenting relationship with his child or return to the U.K. to do that then it is probably better to consider him dead for want of a better word and write him out of existence

a lump sum of money when they turn 18 I’d actually think was pretty insulting - you can’t put a price on having an active engaged father in a child’s life. He does it to assuage his own guilt nothing more

speakball · 11/10/2026 08:15

this man is going to keep finding out that people don’t always buy his bullshit. some always will, he knows that, he just has to get better at avoiding the horrible bit when people who do see through his crap make him feel a bit bad. he doesn’t like that.

we all know MULTIPLE men like this. they keep their conversation off of family, they spend their lives expecting the women around them to make up for the ways they can’t be bothered to deal with the way they behave and run away. they will also expect them to see them as wonderful. they are akin to a small child who believes you can’t see them if they put their hands over their eyes.

notretiredyet01 · 11/10/2026 08:47

I think there are potential risks to you in this relationship, but i can also see why, in theory, someone might feel its best for a child to live in a stable home, and would cause great upset to fight if you believed you would lose in any case as someone with nothing to offer. I can imagine the responses if it had been the woman posting, saying that she believed the biological father should just disappear because he's an alcoholic, irresponsible, didnt want children etc and she could offer a good life and the was terrified of the impact contact would have. Go carefully but don't automatically assume the worse

ForTipsyFinch · 11/10/2026 09:08

No. And additionally, you’ve met this man a single time and have already produced a paragraph, that in itself is never a good sign. I would say that’s an awful lot of emotional labour over a stranger.

Nylonflares · 11/10/2026 09:10

It sounds @VelvetPetals11 that you’re determined to press on with this bookshop romance no matter what

That being the case, do not involve yourself in helping him or trying to poke him into action on things. It’s not your job to fix things

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 09:13

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 01:29

I only know that the mom left him soon after the son was born for someone else, and still in the same relationship.

You said in your original post "Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was."

The original post makes it sound like their split was unrelated to her meeting someone else, like that happened quite a bit later (eventually). Now your new post suggests the relationships overlapped. If that's him changing the story already that's interesting. Either way I wouldn't personally stick around to see whether it's true.

Since you are planning to stick around, I would be fascinated to see if the cards exist and if they say anything more than just "happy birthday".

LorryPeterShells · 11/10/2026 09:13

speakball · 11/10/2026 08:15

this man is going to keep finding out that people don’t always buy his bullshit. some always will, he knows that, he just has to get better at avoiding the horrible bit when people who do see through his crap make him feel a bit bad. he doesn’t like that.

we all know MULTIPLE men like this. they keep their conversation off of family, they spend their lives expecting the women around them to make up for the ways they can’t be bothered to deal with the way they behave and run away. they will also expect them to see them as wonderful. they are akin to a small child who believes you can’t see them if they put their hands over their eyes.

Hard agree, and I say this as someone happily married to the father of my children, so presumably can't be accused of personal bitterness or skin in the game!

Pinklightning · 11/10/2026 09:21

Regardless of the child, who is a huge factor here, this man is a recovering alcoholic with a history of significant mental health issues. He’s only one drink away from being back in the throes of addiction. Addicts don’t make good partners. Or parents. Why is your bar so low? As the child of an alcoholic and the mother of a child whose father had nothing to do with him, the damage done to my child is tremendous. These men are sadly ten a penny. The world is full of deadbeat dads and you’ve found one that’s an alcoholic too. Yay. I’d recommend some soul searching as to why you think this man is a good choice for you. You seem desperate determined to carry on this big romance after your one date though so crack on. After this thread you can’t say you don’t know what you were getting yourself into.

Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · 11/10/2026 09:51

I wouldn't see him again because he's an addict. OK, he's been clean for a few years but he's still an addict. I dated a man who wasn't so honest and gradually discovered how bad his mental state was. He did, of course, fall back into misusing drink and prescription meds.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 09:52

Hello
this is my first post on here so bare with me.
I’m male and I guess an absantee dad and a lot of what this guy has told you resonates with me.

My ex and I had our son three years ago and we both said we never really wanted children. We were always pretty careful about not getting pregnant but it happened probably the first time in 11 years that we were not so careful.
I was and still am in quite a bad place like this guy sounds like he was, mine isn’t helped by some bad joint problems, thyroid disease and other health problems.
I left to live with family because I didn’t feel like I could be a good dad and didn’t feel like I was well enough to look after our son properly. I’ve never really thought it was fair to have children if you’re not in a good position for their future.
I still see my son though my ex has recently met someone new and I’ve been finding a bit upsetting after I’ve seen my son thinking about everything.
It sounds like this guy has done really well to get sober, has a good job.
I admit I could have done more but I really have wanted to feel better and be there for my son.
Maybe what he’s saying is all genuine and he did want to be a dad but just couldn’t pull himself together but now has and feels like he can be a better dad?
Some of the posts here ‘deadbeat dad’ and so on, maybe you have a point, but are you perfect?

speakball · 11/10/2026 09:53

op, if you love books and poetry i promise you he IS NOT some magical 2026 rendition of Heathcliff manifested in the flesh. whatever he can offer you ain’t gonna be the stuff of sonnets.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 11/10/2026 09:57

@VelvetPetals11
Look critically at the timeline

He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

Fine...

he has been sober 5 years....

The child was 1.
It wasnt impossible to get a court order and contact schedule. The child was too old and it wasnt too confusing. Even at 3 or 4 id argue if handled well it would be fine

You should know Uk child maintainance is nothing like US its disgracefully low.

He has savings for the child....
Yep in his name which he currently thinks he has earmarked for this child he has abandoned. I'd love a time machine so I can see how willingly he hands over the compounded lump sum to a stranger in 15 years.

Its a big fat no from me

speakball · 11/10/2026 10:07

Some of the posts here ‘deadbeat dad’ and so on, maybe you have a point, but are you perfect?

tell me, do you really think that the people who think the dad has behaved poorly are thinking that because that poster is sitting there thinking that they have never made a mistake? are you suggesting that because we all make mistakes it’s unkind to assess a person’s ability to be honest with themselves and us? i really hope you don’t meant that and that you do care about if people are being honest with you, or themselves because that’s a really unsafe place to be in the world regardless.

SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 10:09

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 09:52

Hello
this is my first post on here so bare with me.
I’m male and I guess an absantee dad and a lot of what this guy has told you resonates with me.

My ex and I had our son three years ago and we both said we never really wanted children. We were always pretty careful about not getting pregnant but it happened probably the first time in 11 years that we were not so careful.
I was and still am in quite a bad place like this guy sounds like he was, mine isn’t helped by some bad joint problems, thyroid disease and other health problems.
I left to live with family because I didn’t feel like I could be a good dad and didn’t feel like I was well enough to look after our son properly. I’ve never really thought it was fair to have children if you’re not in a good position for their future.
I still see my son though my ex has recently met someone new and I’ve been finding a bit upsetting after I’ve seen my son thinking about everything.
It sounds like this guy has done really well to get sober, has a good job.
I admit I could have done more but I really have wanted to feel better and be there for my son.
Maybe what he’s saying is all genuine and he did want to be a dad but just couldn’t pull himself together but now has and feels like he can be a better dad?
Some of the posts here ‘deadbeat dad’ and so on, maybe you have a point, but are you perfect?

But you still see your son and you haven't moved to another country, so the situations are quite different?

When this guy got sober, his priority was to move thousands of miles away, navigate the US visa system (which isn't easy) and establish his career. His priority was not to sort out things with his ex partner or with his son. If he was able to take so many steps to establish his career and build a new life, why was he unable to do anything about his son?

And it's not really about judging someone or establishing blame etc. If I had a first date with someone and something didn't ring true, I wouldn't stick around to find out more.

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 10:10

@Yo808 there's a massive range between perfect and deadbeat dad. We dont have to be perfect to realise what a useless waste of space the OP's date is. Its hard to make the case that he wasnt in a good place to see his child when he was able to not only hold down a good job, but get his employer to sponsor a move to the US and to go through all the visa requirements and moving across the Atlantic.

As for you, well you chose to not be careful with sex and thus created a child. You then walked out on your long term girlfriend leaving her to single handedly raise the child you both created. You've since been a very part-time dad and are now whining that the ex you abandoned is moving on with her life. Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself.

Forgedsnak · 11/10/2026 10:10

I only read as far as mental illness, alcoholism and doesn’t see his child. Would I invest time on him? Hell no! How many red flags does one need?!

Sussexserpents · 11/10/2026 10:11

speakball · 11/10/2026 09:53

op, if you love books and poetry i promise you he IS NOT some magical 2026 rendition of Heathcliff manifested in the flesh. whatever he can offer you ain’t gonna be the stuff of sonnets.

I mean heathcliff had a tonne of emotional baggage. Mr Rochester had a wife in the attic… I would say this is the stuff of novels!

Livelovebehappy · 11/10/2026 10:14

Sounds like he's spun a tale for damage limitation throwing in a few bits to get your symphony. Personally i wouldnt buy it. I mean his statement of not speaking badly of someone is actually implying his ex was bad so kind of contradicts.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 10:18

Peachghost · 11/10/2026 10:10

@Yo808 there's a massive range between perfect and deadbeat dad. We dont have to be perfect to realise what a useless waste of space the OP's date is. Its hard to make the case that he wasnt in a good place to see his child when he was able to not only hold down a good job, but get his employer to sponsor a move to the US and to go through all the visa requirements and moving across the Atlantic.

As for you, well you chose to not be careful with sex and thus created a child. You then walked out on your long term girlfriend leaving her to single handedly raise the child you both created. You've since been a very part-time dad and are now whining that the ex you abandoned is moving on with her life. Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself.

Yes I knew id get a similar response to yours.
Yes you do have a point.
I did walk out but I’d rather that than be unhappy around my son.
Sticking with this guy, his ex sounds worse than him frankly so I don’t understand all the negative comments about him when it sounds like his ex was really more of a ‘massive red flag’ than he was.
His ex didn’t want him to see his son, if he’s managed to pull himself out of whatever hole he was in he can move to whatever country he wants. What’s he going to do? Not move on and wait around seeing if she’ll let him see him?

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