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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
smilingontheinside · 10/10/2026 23:14

BigFatLiar · 10/10/2026 03:34

From what you say the child has no idea who he us, may even have a father. So the boy seems to be in a settled life with his mum who doesn't want his interference. His worry seems to be should he push for access. Hello Jimmy this is Mike he's your dad. What will this achieve other than disruption for everyone. Will little Jimmy be expected to take holidays in the US with his dad?

I suspect the big question for him is does his desire to see his son warrant blowing up the boys current life? Here on mumsnet the answer is of course yes it is, he's a waste of space for not putting his own wishes first.

If hie story is true I'd have more respect for him if he left the lad to his childhood and then contacted him when he was older and able to make decisions.

I think this is the most reasonable reply on here. The mother moved on, didnt want him in the boys life and he has a stepdad and is settled. Maybe this chap has grown up, sorted his life and is trying to work out the best thing to do for his son. Maybe that's stay away until hes older, maybe that's wait until the boy wants to find him or maybe that's start a relationship now.Too many on here want a perfect man, well ladies sorry they don't exist. My first husband looked like a quiet hardworking man ftom a middle class goid family,but behind closed doors he was vile. My second husband had a nomadic life, very different upbringing, has broken the law in the past and would not have been the type of man I ever thought I'd marry. But he has made me happier than I've ever been. He is kind, loving, caring, loves his kids, and left his old life behind many years ago. People can change. I also know a couple if recovering alcoholics and they've been clean for 40+ years.

Trillie · 10/10/2026 23:29

He’s paying child support and thinking about trying to see the child. If he took practical actions to do that I’d accept that. Not everyone’s life is a straight path.

Papster · 10/10/2026 23:38

One date
Give him a chance

SweetnsourNZ · 10/10/2026 23:40

PPAPPINE · 10/10/2026 02:03

Not a chance in hell. This is a MASSIVE red flag 🚩 🚩🚩🚩🚩
Don’t be silly.
I can guarantee it’s even worse than he’s telling you and if he does pay maintenance, it’s probably because he has to. RUN!

If he lives in the US can the UK government make him pay? I know some countries do work with each other, but not all.

sunnymummy238 · 10/10/2026 23:49

Wordsmithery · 10/10/2026 03:21

If you really like him, I'd proceed - cautiously. See whether his words turn into action. He managed to get himself sober and landed a decent job so he must be pretty determined. Let's see that determination translate into a healthy relationship with his child. Anything less - you run.

This

Stephybris62 · 10/10/2026 23:52

Although he seems to "genuinely" care for his son, he doesnt actually know him at all does he.
Paying money is required by law, it doesnt mean hes not a deadbeat. His son doesnt even know him.
Hes talking about wanting a family when he cant even be bothered to see the son he already has.
Absolute deal breaker for me imo. If he can abandon his own son theres no hope for anyone else is there.

Pinadaqx2 · 11/10/2026 00:11

@sweetnsourNZ no CMS do not have those facilities in UK our CMS isn't very good making fathers pay in England especially if they are self employed.

EverybodyLTB · 11/10/2026 00:39

US and UK have reciprocal agreements for child maintenance actually. Also, if he needs to live there on a visa, he needs to have all his finances and legal business in order. So, while the CMS is shit in many ways, once the order is in place and he’s doing things like getting visas for the US, it will be garnished from his wages there in the same way.

OP, there’s no such thing as an account that nobody can touch when there’s no details or contact. Otherwise people would be opening ISAs and other accounts for any random kid to avoid tax etc. you have to verify heavily. I have ISAs and a few other accounts for my kids, and they want a huge amount of information. How does he intend to pass this to the child? None of it makes sense it’s all bullshit. I bet his child maintenance is like £20 a month or something.

Seeing as you’re asking all of these questions, ask him how much he pays per month and if it’s court ordered. Has he called a lawyer yet (that he doesn’t need as you can do it online for (£270!)

SonK · 11/10/2026 00:42

No I would not; there always is a chance that the reason he has no contact with his son is because he is not permitted to by law due to domestic abuse.

You would never know.

Twittymctwitface · 11/10/2026 00:57

Are you the man not seeing his child? Even if you aren't, then you are the person who sat there on their first date listening to a person who has made excuses for not seeing their child, for what must have been hours given the amount of detail you are able to go in to.

We are at, man doesn't see child, cant even send cards. Mother of child's fault. And to top it off, moved to a different country with no real intent on having a relationship with child, just a savings account he won't share incase evil mother wants her nails done.

If you are in the slightest bit genuine, take the wisdom of the crowd and walk away.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 01:09

Let's break it down:

He has a six year old child he hasn't seen.

he...is now looking into getting legal advice about contact
He hasn't done anything since 2020!🤷‍♀️

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly.
He's already made you wonder if she is responsible enough to spend the money on their child. Not to mention the cards and presents thing and the inference that she trapped him.🙄

It's textbook Script.

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted.
Its been one date @VelvetPetals11. Just one date and already you're posting for advice? You know what you feel, listen to what your feeling, not a tried and tested script.

And all this after one date!🤔 Usually they take their time.

You know nothing about this man beyond that he said about himself. You don't even know where he works. Or lives.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 01:18

All you really know about him is he has a six year old child who he has no contact with and who he left to live on another continent.

Even if that's true, and you don't know that it is, it's not great, is it?

Puffin69 · 11/10/2026 01:20

It depends. Was he ever a feature in the child's life? Does he stay away to protect himself or the child? Does the child have a another father in their life?

Flomingho · 11/10/2026 01:20

I would give him the benefit of the doubt. It sounds like he does care, but by his own admission he wasn't in a good place in his life. From what you have said, the ex sounds like she was hell bent on getting pregnant and trapped him. There are lots of situations where it's not that the father doesn't care but the mother has been completely unreasonable and toxic the man has had to remove himself from a toxic situation. It's not as black and white as they just didn't care.

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 01:29

Puffin69 · 11/10/2026 01:20

It depends. Was he ever a feature in the child's life? Does he stay away to protect himself or the child? Does the child have a another father in their life?

I only know that the mom left him soon after the son was born for someone else, and still in the same relationship.

OP posts:
VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 01:41

Twittymctwitface · 11/10/2026 00:57

Are you the man not seeing his child? Even if you aren't, then you are the person who sat there on their first date listening to a person who has made excuses for not seeing their child, for what must have been hours given the amount of detail you are able to go in to.

We are at, man doesn't see child, cant even send cards. Mother of child's fault. And to top it off, moved to a different country with no real intent on having a relationship with child, just a savings account he won't share incase evil mother wants her nails done.

If you are in the slightest bit genuine, take the wisdom of the crowd and walk away.

We talked for ages during the date, i also told him loads about me. We have also been texting loads aswell so more has come to light.

I don’t like to be pushy but also like getting straight to the point.

OP posts:
Puffin69 · 11/10/2026 01:44

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 01:29

I only know that the mom left him soon after the son was born for someone else, and still in the same relationship.

In which case his presence may cause more harm than good. He was probably really hurt at the time and was replaced straight away. He could have of course fought and tried to get joint custody and maybe he should have. But things are not always that simple. It would be completely different if the child had been old enough to bond with him- even a year old.

Mamaaa333 · 11/10/2026 01:51

I personally think that he seems to really have his shit together! Everyone has something they wish they had done differently, maybe this will make him be a wonderful father to any future children he has.
I also think it’s extremely unfair that he is paying maintenance for a child while some other guy is getting to be the dad! If he’s not allowed to have anything to do with the child, then he shouldn’t be paying for it! It’s great that he is saving separately for the child too.
In conclusion, I wouldn’t let it put me off, quite the opposite in fact.

Flomingho · 11/10/2026 01:56

VelvetPetals11 · 11/10/2026 01:29

I only know that the mom left him soon after the son was born for someone else, and still in the same relationship.

So it wasn't his fault the relationship ended. Is the son even his? He may have doubted this at the time.

Onceuponatime32 · 11/10/2026 02:33

I think a few of us have experienced our dc deadbeat dad cropping up after years of absence, for no other reason than to convince his new girlfriend he’s not a complete loser.

I couldn’t be arsed putting this much emotional labour into a bloke I barely knew. If I hear the words “ex alcoholic “ there isn’t a second date.

Redragtoabull · 11/10/2026 03:07

Masts at the ready MN's and absolutely justified!
OP, fuck this wank tank bank off to another mug One date in and he's 'opening up to you' Pleeeeaasse, someone get me an acid reflux tablet ...hurry

Makebelieveanotherlife · 11/10/2026 03:52

Would not touch a recovering alcoholic or addict of any kind with a barge pole. Biggest red flag, the rest is irrelevant. He’s already given you TWO red flags. What else are you waiting for?

User454545454546565 · 11/10/2026 05:04

What is his current relationship to drugs and alcohol, and what new coping strategies does he use when life gets tricky, as it inevitably will?

Booboobagins · 11/10/2026 06:03

@VelvetPetals11
He doesnt sound like a lost cause to me

  • Hes paying maintenance for a child his ex says she doesnt want him involved with.
  • Hes got a bank of cards for his son that he hasnt been able to give him.
  • He was at the time on a bad place and turned that around.
  • He now wanting to be in his childs life.

I would see how it goes with him.

I had no 'baggage' when I met my DH, hehad 2 DCs from his first marriage who he was prevented from seeing, stacks of court papers giving him access etc but to no avail. He was a good man and father. His DC were abused by their step dad. My DH tried to support his DCs, they asked him not to attend court. His ex ILs knew what was happening and did nothing. His DCs say they wisj he had tried harder and got to see them. He could have saved them.

So your one date BF should gain access to his child so he is satisfied he's thriving. Pls support him in doing this.

I see my DH's DC and have 2 step grandkids. My DH dying brought us all closer.

SALaw · 11/10/2026 06:38

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:31

I completely get that, but would the fact he’s been sober for five years, turned his life around and is now looking into getting legal advice about contact change your opinion at all? Or would the six years without seeing his son still be a dealbreaker for you?

“Looking into getting legal advice” is as vague as can be and sounds like a line to appease you. Just get the advice surely?!