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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 21:57

SmallBox · 10/10/2026 21:47

He's not even posting the cards! Won't shell out for a stamp!

I did bring this up in a text today. He said the mom told him that any cards/presents he sends will be opened and not given to his son, and presents will be sold.

I can see why he wants to keep them if this is true.

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Peachghost · 10/10/2026 22:00

SmallBox · 10/10/2026 21:47

He's not even posting the cards! Won't shell out for a stamp!

Yep, he's a pathetic loser but he's fit so apparently its OK 😂

ETA: and he's already got the OP parroting his excuses.

Jennick · 10/10/2026 22:01

Some men can walk away from people ,it's not a good trait,and could be you next

thegrind · 10/10/2026 22:04

hm. I‘m assuming you have no children OP? Honest question: Why on earth would you hook up with someone who already has a child, deadbeat dad or not? Why choose a ‚kind’, in shape, otherwise average man who had significant baggage?

moondip · 10/10/2026 22:05

Absolutely not.

Minasama · 10/10/2026 22:07

No. I simply couldn’t respect a man who doesn’t see their child. It is one of the worst things a person can possibly do.
Your values have to align for a relationship to be successful.

outdoorkitchen · 10/10/2026 22:10

I wouldn't and didn't, it really put me off him and I thought the excuses were a bit pathetic and very "poor me" .

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 22:14

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 21:57

I did bring this up in a text today. He said the mom told him that any cards/presents he sends will be opened and not given to his son, and presents will be sold.

I can see why he wants to keep them if this is true.

That's quite a predictable answer.

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 22:19

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 21:57

I did bring this up in a text today. He said the mom told him that any cards/presents he sends will be opened and not given to his son, and presents will be sold.

I can see why he wants to keep them if this is true.

You barely know this man - one date - and you are texting him about why he hasn’t sent cards to the child he has no relationship with?

if this is true this is really messed up. After the first date conversation is usually about what you are watching on Netflix and where you like to eat to test out where to go on date number 2. This is far far too much. Very odd.

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 22:28

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 22:19

You barely know this man - one date - and you are texting him about why he hasn’t sent cards to the child he has no relationship with?

if this is true this is really messed up. After the first date conversation is usually about what you are watching on Netflix and where you like to eat to test out where to go on date number 2. This is far far too much. Very odd.

Agree!
The whole thing is odd.

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/10/2026 22:30

He's caught you, hook, line and sinker @VelvetPetals11.🤦‍♀️

I just hope you cop on sooner rather than later.🤞

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 22:33

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 22:19

You barely know this man - one date - and you are texting him about why he hasn’t sent cards to the child he has no relationship with?

if this is true this is really messed up. After the first date conversation is usually about what you are watching on Netflix and where you like to eat to test out where to go on date number 2. This is far far too much. Very odd.

I didn’t just text him “why don’t you send cards to your kid”. It slowly got brought into the conversation we were having, so i took the chance to ask.

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 22:35

thegrind · 10/10/2026 22:04

hm. I‘m assuming you have no children OP? Honest question: Why on earth would you hook up with someone who already has a child, deadbeat dad or not? Why choose a ‚kind’, in shape, otherwise average man who had significant baggage?

No i dont. What’s to say a normal childless guy wouldn’t do the same to me?

Its still a gamble either way.

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ForNewHedgehog · 10/10/2026 22:37

Wow I can see the self righteousness judgemental brigade are out in force this evening. Let’s be real here. You have been one one date. On that date he opened up to you about something really personal that he admits he is not proud of and here you are judging the hell out of him and making this all about you. Is the situation he chose to tell you about ideal? No but people are human and make mistakes.

the fact that you seem to be making lots of assumptions and judgments about one conversation and that you seem to thinking whether it should affect your thoughts on what would happen or what it would mean to you if you got in a relationship and married at a later date is more of a red flag for him than anything than anything he said to you at this point.
I don’t think you should see him again, not because of what he disclosed to you but because you are clearly not emotional intelligent or mature enough. Maybe take some time to get to know him more before judgement and wedding planning.

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/10/2026 22:40

he needs to see his child. All his regrets and I wish I’d been there for my child are meaningless unless he’s visited, established communication and made sure his child knows there’s a dad who cares for him.

PPAPPINE · 10/10/2026 22:43

bittertwisted · 10/10/2026 09:33

Not as low as you might think, I personally know 2 men who have taken their own lives because of it. What you class as ‘no reason’ is a sliding scale.
of course this is outnumbered by men who can’t be arsed, however you probably have decent women in your life who would never do this, there are plenty that weaponise their children

Even Abusers and rapists get access to children through court. It’s a fucked up system that is biased towards fathers (there is lots of evidence for this).

Pumpkindice · 10/10/2026 22:47

PPAPPINE · 10/10/2026 22:43

Even Abusers and rapists get access to children through court. It’s a fucked up system that is biased towards fathers (there is lots of evidence for this).

Tbf, while men usually do get awarded access, if the resident parent isn't willing to follow the court order there really isn't an awful lot the non resident parent can do about it. They can go back to court but that doesn't necessarily translate into actually being able to see the child.

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 22:48

ForNewHedgehog · 10/10/2026 22:37

Wow I can see the self righteousness judgemental brigade are out in force this evening. Let’s be real here. You have been one one date. On that date he opened up to you about something really personal that he admits he is not proud of and here you are judging the hell out of him and making this all about you. Is the situation he chose to tell you about ideal? No but people are human and make mistakes.

the fact that you seem to be making lots of assumptions and judgments about one conversation and that you seem to thinking whether it should affect your thoughts on what would happen or what it would mean to you if you got in a relationship and married at a later date is more of a red flag for him than anything than anything he said to you at this point.
I don’t think you should see him again, not because of what he disclosed to you but because you are clearly not emotional intelligent or mature enough. Maybe take some time to get to know him more before judgement and wedding planning.

Dating is about judging someone. It’s about testing whether you are compatible - whether you have the same life outlook, sense of humor, morals, hopes and dreams.

The majority of people have said this would put them off - a man who had an addiction and who walked away from a child. It’s okay to say that’s not the type of person you would choose the spend the rest of your life with. People rule of potential mars for all sorts of reasons - I have a friend who ruled out someone after date number one because she thought he dressed too casually for the restaurant. And that’s okay - dating is all about personal preferences. It’s not a job interview - there are no protected classes or rules about biases.

APlagueOnBothYourHouses · 10/10/2026 22:49

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 21:57

I did bring this up in a text today. He said the mom told him that any cards/presents he sends will be opened and not given to his son, and presents will be sold.

I can see why he wants to keep them if this is true.

Maybe she needs the money, perhaps he should send money rather than presents. Maybe she doesn’t see the point of the child having a Scalextric when she needs to feed and house him.

GreenCandleWax · 10/10/2026 22:50

You have been on one date and know only what he has told you. Take it really slow (don't DTD) and see what unfolds. He may be genuine about the child maintenance, savings, cards and legal advice, but he may not and just want a shag or to enmesh another woman in an unhealthy relationship. Time will tell, so bide your time and find out who he really is. Time is on your side. Maybe he will show you the stack of Chrstmas and birthday cards!🍀

florenceandthemac · 10/10/2026 22:52

No

Bufftailed · 10/10/2026 22:53

Why would he be paying child maintenance if he the mother keeps him a secret. Seems unlikely.

DemBonesDemBones · 10/10/2026 22:53

Run.

UnintentionalArcher · 10/10/2026 22:57

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 10/10/2026 17:37

Even if it's true, I wouldn't be going near him.

Dating is an audition. You're weeding out people who are a risk to your future happiness.

The alcoholism is a risk.
The cutting and running when things get difficult is a risk.
The fact that he spent years feeling no responsibility for his own child is a risk.

Yes, he may have his shit together now. But his history suggests a high likelihood of not having his shit together in the future.

He may be a good bloke, he may deserve a relationship and happiness etc. But that's not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to ensure your own future happiness. The best way to ensure that is not to pick a bloke with a whole parade of red flags attached to him.

This is extremely good advice. @VelvetPetals11 Please listen to this. It’s irrelevant whether or not what he says is true and whether he does so every single positive thing he’s said he will. He cannot pass this dating audition if you have anything like enough focus on self-care and self-preservation.

If you were really keen not to close this down completely, one option would be to tell him he’s welcome to contact you again in a year.

Assuming you were both still single, you would then see any progress he’s made, be able to assess if he’s in a better position for a relationship and, assuming he’s continued to make significant transformations to his life, perhaps very cautiously get to know him a bit better.

Even then, you would have the issue of him being based in the US and I’d assume a good father would want to move back to the UK, but on the slim chance he’s ’the one’ perhaps you could date long distance for a while and then look to move here.

Acalmerkarma · 10/10/2026 22:59

Of course he deserves love and another chance, he's a human being and none of us know him. However, all we know of you either is that it has bothered you enough to post on here and the people who have responded to you come from a place of kindness. He ight be truly lovely and well intentioned, but even that wasn't enough to stop these events occurring. Out of implied respect for your welfare, posters are trying to stop you falling into a trap, which even he might not know he's making.

Further, you need to look closely at your own decision making. Look at how much you are defending him and making excuses. It is uncomfortable to realise that someone's motives aren't solely to male is happy or being transparent with us, but it's better to realise this now than later on. Some people make their points more harshly, but they are trying to help you as being part ofMumsnet to begin with assumes some education and ability to be discerning.

I must step away again, it's triggering. Don't assume that we are just bashing your date OP, it takes precious energy to engage enough to respond to you. In my time away from Mumsnet I have realised that some posters seem harsh and a bit vulgar in their responses but they are protective of others as part of a community, but they may lack tools such as manners, language or energy to sufficiently cushion the blow.

Take care OP x