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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
CamillaMcCauley · 10/10/2026 20:03

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 18:39

From what i gathered, hes working towards his green card to permanently stay here.

So even if he intends to get legal enforcement of some kind of contact, he has no intention of being involved in any meaningful way.

There is nothing that would prevent me from being actively involved in my children’s lives. Nothing.

This man is full of it.

User573359 · 10/10/2026 20:09

I think the majority are being overly harsh. The most important thing is someone accepting responsibility for their past actions. I work in children's social care and I have so much respect for those parents who are able to take responsibility for their part in their child being removed from their care. Most aren't able to do that. Sometimes with absent fathers their lack of action is down to self esteem, he doesn't think he is worth disrupting his child's life when there is someone more responsible acting as a father. Personally I don't look for perfect people, I look for genuine and honest people, and if what he has said is true then he does seem honest.

Posters are correct that he could be embellishing the truth, but it sounds like you are wary of that already. Personally I would be more concerned with his past alcoholism/drug addiction, and the risk of him falling off the wagon. Things to try and find out are what his support network is like, with him being in a different country. What are his relationships like with his friends and family members, how does he handle stress etc

DollydaydreamTheThird · 10/10/2026 20:12

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:18

Might sound naive, but on the chance everything he said is true? To me there are some green flags as well. He’s been sober for five years, completely turned his life around, pays maintenance (If thats 100% true) and is now looking into getting legal advice about contact. I know six years is a long time, but surely those things count for something?

How confusing for the child if he does appear on the scene after 6 years!! I think its kinder to leave him with his existing family. I have a bit of sympathy for the situation but he had his chance to step up and he was too addled with addiction to sort it out. I'm sure he is sorry and he is sober but the chances of relapse are immense and I wouldn't want to deal with any of that mess. I was in a relationship with a gambling man with an alcohol problem. You rescue them time after time and then they go and cheat on you anyway. Nope not for me. I'd rather have a relationship with an adult who can control their urges than a man child who blames everyone else for their problems.

MsPrufrockk · 10/10/2026 20:15

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 18:40

No, i just dont agree with your comments.

So you come for advice but you actually disagree with everyone saying to open your eyes and stop being foolish. I'm not really sure why you posted.

Khayker · 10/10/2026 20:17

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

Perhaps he thinks he's putting his child's needs before his own, making sure his son grows up in a stable environment. He was a drunk and couldn't offer his child much when he was born, he's in a totally different place now and perhaps isn't ashamed of what he is. Obviously thinking about contact but I expect he'll do what's right for the boy. He doesn't sound thoughtless or neglectfull to me, he sounds like a tortured soul. The sadness is apparent in the way he talks, give him a break, he's not ignoring his son on purpose, just doing what he thinks is best for him.

CleverOpalBalonz · 10/10/2026 20:17

If he’s been sober 5 years, hasn’t seen his child in 6 years, why is he only now looking into contact??? Why not as soon as he got sober? And if it were me apart from my children, I wouldn’t move to a different continent where any relationship is going to be more difficult. I think he’s being honest about the recovery but telling you and himself what he thinks paints him in a good light about pursuing contact whilst having little to no intention of being an actively involved father.

And no, I couldn’t be with someone like that.

it’s an immediate no from me for anyone declaring being a good dad as one of their strengths on dating apps.
thats should be the bare minimum not an achievement

User573359 · 10/10/2026 20:23

Just to add to my reply, I just realised he's only in his 'late 20's' much younger than I was picturing. So the oldest he would have been when his son was conceived is 22-23, and that is if he's 29 now. His brain wasn't even fully developed. I'd hate to be judged now on decisions I made before I was 25. Nobody expects parents to make completely responsible decisions in their early 20's. I had my eldest very young, his father was 23. We didn't stay together but he did play an active role in his life during his childhood, and I was too young to realise his role in his life was harming him. He was an alcoholic, and would drink around our son, it took me a long time to realise it. Being actively involved in your child's life isn't always what is best for them either.

CamillaMcCauley · 10/10/2026 20:33

CleverOpalBalonz · 10/10/2026 20:17

If he’s been sober 5 years, hasn’t seen his child in 6 years, why is he only now looking into contact??? Why not as soon as he got sober? And if it were me apart from my children, I wouldn’t move to a different continent where any relationship is going to be more difficult. I think he’s being honest about the recovery but telling you and himself what he thinks paints him in a good light about pursuing contact whilst having little to no intention of being an actively involved father.

And no, I couldn’t be with someone like that.

it’s an immediate no from me for anyone declaring being a good dad as one of their strengths on dating apps.
thats should be the bare minimum not an achievement

Agree with this. Even if he didn’t reach out for contact immediately on getting sober, after a year or so he should have had the confidence that he was getting his act together. Five years is a long time to faff around, and he’s still faffing by the sounds of it.

Lilyargin · 10/10/2026 20:35

Garnished from his pay cheque 🤣

Mammalaria · 10/10/2026 20:44

Keep clear I speak from past experience he will make your life hell. You can do better, they are attracted to people like yourself who make excuses for them

LorryPeterShells · 10/10/2026 20:44

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 18:39

From what i gathered, hes working towards his green card to permanently stay here.

You've got to be kidding me.

How, then, is he planning to build a relationship with the child he's abandoned now that he has apparently had an epiphany about what a shit he's been and is a totally different, unselfish person who wants to make amends and start behaving like a father?

Actions speak louder than words but there are none so blind as those who refuse to see!

Still, it sounds like you're going to go ahead with this in spite of his evident ongoing poor character and life choices, so I genuinely wish you luck.

I also genuinely think you might benefit from speaking to someone about why this is the standard you think it's acceptable and that you deserve. I don't mean that bitchily - I've been the one with my standards in the gutter and you don't even see that that's the case until you look back on it from a better place. So many women are willing to accept such utter crap, it makes me sad (and I truly think that's what's driving many of the exasperated responses you're getting - people are frustratedly yelling at their past selves as well as you!)

JazzyJelly · 10/10/2026 20:46

Look, you're obviously determined to date this loser, so don't let us stop you. But stop pretending you want anything other than gushing praise for him doing the absolute legal minimum (if he's telling the truth).

AngelaBB · 10/10/2026 20:47

He seems a decent bloke, very early day though. Just be careful.

LorryPeterShells · 10/10/2026 20:47

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 18:29

I did question him on the account, he said its in one of those accounts that you can’t touch, so im guessing almost like a trust?

I think the difficult part is how does he know she will actually spend that money on their kid? I think its a good thing if its true because his son will get a nice chunk of money when hes 18 or whatever its set up to, that he can put towards driving or a deposit ect.

Oh OK, this one actually made me laugh out loud.

I think there's a much greater chance of it being spent on or to benefit the child if given to his only parental caregiver than if it's kept in the bank account of the parent who has zero contact with said child.

I think you may have jumped the shark with this one, OP......😅

MMUmum · 10/10/2026 20:52

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:53

I’m sorry you’ve had those experiences with addiction in your family, I can see why you’d be cautious. But what if everything he’s told me checks out, including paying child maintenance? He doesn’t strike me as someone who’s replaced drinking with gambling or anything like that. He did say he spends a fair bit on books, but I’m a bookish girl myself so I actually quite like that 😂 Would the five years sober and how much he’s turned his life around not count for something?

You sound like you are begging Mn for permission to have a relationship with this man, every time someone points out red flags you say 'Ah yes, but...' Why not just go ahead and find out for yourself, but don't say you weren't warned

Sprogonthetyne · 10/10/2026 21:10

Removing himself from the child when he was a mentally unstable alcoholic was probably in the childs best intrest, but as you keep saying he's be sober 5 years. You say "surely that means somthing " and I agree, but what it means is he had no excuse not to have been in that childs life for the last 5 years.

He got out of whatever "dark place" he's spun you a yarn about while the child was still a baby, and instead of taking steps to involve himself then, when the baby could have grown up knowing him, he decided to move to another continent. Where he can make all the noises he likes about looking into possiblely talking to a family lawyer, without any danger at all of ever being expected to do any hands on parenting.

I'm sorry but that man is the deadest of deadbeats and you would be best running in the opposite direction.

Terfedout · 10/10/2026 21:17

Blimey. Some of the replies on here are vindictive. Even by mumsnet standards.

There is clearly a lack of understanding of addiction and the difficulties that can bring.

He has probably moved away for a fresh start and to get away from the routines that he related to alcohol misuse.

People are right to urge caution. I agree that it was a pretty heavy conversation for a first date, but that's sometimes how it goes! I also don't understand why he would have told you this on a first date unless he was genuinely conflicted by it.

My advise would be to proceed, but with lots of caution. Wish you the best either way OP.

Peachghost · 10/10/2026 21:38

BeeHive909 · 10/10/2026 16:23

Not naive at all I just know that some stories are actually genuine and that not every man /dad is evil. You don’t know the full story either and you automatically assume the bad.

We know that he moved a continent away from his baby. That's enough to know he is a shit dad who abandoned his child. Its not assuming bad, its recognising bad.

Peachghost · 10/10/2026 21:44

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:22

Exactly! I mean for all i know is its one big lie, but if it’s not and it’s true the fact he went from rock bottom to building a life like this clearly shows people can change and that he has ambitions.

I think what i worry about most is the fact it’s took so long to make a decision about his son. If we go on further dates and he can show he has spoke to a solicitor and all the cards, maintenance and seperate savings is true then to me thats massive green flags and clearly shows he’s not a complete deadbeat.

Paying maintenance is the bare fucking minimum not a massive green flag. You already know he's not speaking to a solicitor because he told you himself he is thinking about it. Writing birthday and Christmas cards is not impressive, thats about 5 minutes of parenting a year. Your standards for men are in the toilet.

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 21:46

There's something about the story that doesn't quite track but I can't put my finger on it.
I think it's the fact that when he moved to the US he was clearly in a fairly good place because he was sponsored by an employer to move there & work. So at that point he would have also been in a good place to see his child too surely? But instead he chose to move thousands of miles away.

Why move to the US for a fresh start? Why not a different UK city? Scotland? Even Europe would have meant he could maintain a relationship with his child.

Trying to get some rights to see his child now, or saying he wants to, appears performative because he has put so much distance between them it makes pretty impossible for him to have a meaningful role in the child's life.

Tbh, if I were you, I would have more respect for him if he were talking about needing to move back to the UK to be able to see his child. But instead he is planning to get a green card...
I think he is spinning you a good yarn with this and it seems to be working.

SmallBox · 10/10/2026 21:47

Peachghost · 10/10/2026 21:44

Paying maintenance is the bare fucking minimum not a massive green flag. You already know he's not speaking to a solicitor because he told you himself he is thinking about it. Writing birthday and Christmas cards is not impressive, thats about 5 minutes of parenting a year. Your standards for men are in the toilet.

Edited

He's not even posting the cards! Won't shell out for a stamp!

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 21:49

SmallBox · 10/10/2026 21:47

He's not even posting the cards! Won't shell out for a stamp!

But it sounds terribly romantic and heart wrenching to say he writes them anyway and keeps them so that one day his child might read them.
It's like something out of a film.
🤔Hmmm

Jopo12 · 10/10/2026 21:49

Yes I would and did and then married him 22 years ago. We have a son together and he is the best dad and husband.

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 21:52

Jopo12 · 10/10/2026 21:49

Yes I would and did and then married him 22 years ago. We have a son together and he is the best dad and husband.

Did your husband ever reconnect with the child he walked away from?

Frankie2018 · 10/10/2026 21:55

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:38

I would hope it means actually getting in contact with a family law advisor and start things off if he’s really genuinely interested like he said.

How is he going to have contact when hes thousands of miles away?