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Partner going away with attractive 22 year old girl. Is it a bit weird or am I just being jealous/insecure.

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cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 07:30

Just that really! For context he’s 43, and self employed so it’s a work trip that he’s organised himself. It’s long haul and they will be away for a few weeks. She works for him at his house everyday mon-Fri, they are set up in his dining room. Desks next to eachother. We don’t live together.

The whole thing is making me feel a bit weird but I’m not sure why! I know if I try to talk to him about it it will just go round in circles and will just result in me feeling like a terrible person/jealous insecure girlfriend. He sees the trip as essential to the business, I don’t want to be accused of being unsupportive as I do support him massively.

just wondered how others would potentially feel about this situation? Am I being an absolute areshole girlfriend?

OP posts:
cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:10

Dontbesonosy · Today 09:07

If a friend came to you for advice with this situation, what would you tell them.
He is wasting your time snd energy. Give it a couple of months snd he’ll be asking to move in with you when he loses his house.
Dump and run.

I would absolutely tell her to leave!!!!

OP posts:
cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:11

Contain4 · Today 09:09

Hes very good with grand gestures and making himself look fantastic to others. When I have questioned some of his behaviour with friends/family I get told he’s ’one of the good ones’

But you’re not happy - so it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks.

He could be perfect in every way for someone else, but that doesn’t meant he’s right for you.

My friend is with someone and loads of people keep telling her she’s landed on her feet - I genuinely can’t see it and think he awful.
He’s controlling, boring, thick as mince and everything has to all be about him - but her friends and family keep saying what a great guy he is and how lucky she is

(I don’t know if they genuinely think that because they don’t know what he’s truly like or they’re just being nice and not saying their true feelings).

Their opinion doesn’t matter. Only you and your feelings matter.
Being a woman and choosing to be single (when let’s face it there are thousands of single men out there to choose from) is not a sign of failure or weakness, it’s a sign of strength and success.

Omg your friend might be dating my ex husband!

OP posts:
FairLemonNewt · Today 09:12

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 08:25

The trustworthy ‘decent’ men are all taken at this age.

So why is your self esteem so low that you think you're better off with a shitty man like this than with no man?

WingnutSOS · Today 09:12

Time to throw this one back @cheeseandhamtoastie42 , it is better to be single than to be treated like crap.

DrBlackbird · Today 09:12

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 08:51

Just my mum really. She sees being single as being a failure.

I had a mother like this. Really difficult not to let their anxiety affect you. No matter what I accomplished, she’d only ever ask me if I had met a man.

However, I focused on all those other aspects of life, work, hobbies, friendships, having fun. Ironically I did meet my DH through a friend. But I’m glad to have learned the lesson of how important it is to build a life beyond a partner.

Sounds like you have a lot of solid aspects to your life, which will help in stepping away.

Laura95167 · Today 09:13

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 07:44

It’s web design. It’s a fairly new business. He goes away a lot. He likes to have a few days/a week for work stuff then he spends the rest of the time doing more touristy stuff.

I was on the fence until this

You can we design anywhere. USA frequently works with Asia, UK has consultants in Europe etc etc

And his business is struggling but hes booked a 3 week trip which is actually 1 week work and 2 weeks holiday? And is this young woman is she returning when the works concluded or is she holidaying too?

Why does he want to be away from you for 3 weeks if it could be 1? Why doesnt he want to take you?

I wouldnt be happy with this OP

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:13

FairLemonNewt · Today 09:12

So why is your self esteem so low that you think you're better off with a shitty man like this than with no man?

Long story involving very shitty parents.

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Laura95167 · Today 09:14

I was on the fence until this

You can we design anywhere. USA frequently works with Asia, UK has consultants in Europe etc etc

And his business is struggling but hes booked a 3 week trip which is actually 1 week work and 2 weeks holiday? And is this young woman is she returning when the works concluded or is she holidaying too?

I wouldnt be happy with this OP

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:14

DrBlackbird · Today 09:12

I had a mother like this. Really difficult not to let their anxiety affect you. No matter what I accomplished, she’d only ever ask me if I had met a man.

However, I focused on all those other aspects of life, work, hobbies, friendships, having fun. Ironically I did meet my DH through a friend. But I’m glad to have learned the lesson of how important it is to build a life beyond a partner.

Sounds like you have a lot of solid aspects to your life, which will help in stepping away.

It’s hard isn’t it.

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GreyCarpet · Today 09:17

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:14

It’s hard isn’t it.

I feel like you've focused on the wrong part of this post.

The point is that you do have to ignore the archaic, sexist attitude of your mother and focus on your actual life.

Not resign yourself to it and submit.

Jk987 · Today 09:17

Is this a new relationship or have you been together a while? I’d want to meet the woman, has she got a partner?

He doesn’t sound very committed to you.

Blueshape · Today 09:18

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:13

Long story involving very shitty parents.

Seriously step away. Decide what you want to do and don't it, alone, not because there's no one to go with, but because that's the best way.

Learning to enjoy eating out, going for a walk, to the theater, on holiday etc etc on your own is completely liberating. Plus when you go alone you're much more likely to meet new people. Find a hobby, join some groups. Make a happy life that doesn't rely on anyone else for happiness.

Life will be good and that will attract good people, if you want them.

Laura95167 · Today 09:19

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 08:11

Mid 40s and describes himself as being really good either way people. Think there’s a part of him that is convinced that if people meet him they’ll immediately want his business.

Hes already been on loads of these trips previously and they’ve come to nothing. He’s been out of pocket tbh from the trip itself.

i think its just an excuse to get away.

Or he knows he wont get business but doesn't care, because really its a holiday he wants to partially pass off as a business trip to save money? Not dissimilar to when we went to theme parks with school and had to do like 3 physics equations to explain the trip as educational?

HollyhocksandPeons · Today 09:20

Kingdomofsleep · Today 07:54

I wouldn't be happy, as a young female employee, to have to work alone with my boss in his house. The whole setup shows that he doesn't really have good boundaries or good judgement. Either work remotely or, if a shared working space is unaffordable, then the business isn't particularly viable.

That's reason enough to ditch him. I can't stand men who don't understand the position they put women in.

So good to hear there are still young female employees who understand that. Exactly this. And well done for having an old head on your young shoulders!

NewGoldFox · Today 09:20

I’ve only read your first page.
Why are you with him? You don’t need a good reason to break up with someone, the vibes are off.

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:21

Blueshape · Today 09:18

Seriously step away. Decide what you want to do and don't it, alone, not because there's no one to go with, but because that's the best way.

Learning to enjoy eating out, going for a walk, to the theater, on holiday etc etc on your own is completely liberating. Plus when you go alone you're much more likely to meet new people. Find a hobby, join some groups. Make a happy life that doesn't rely on anyone else for happiness.

Life will be good and that will attract good people, if you want them.

The stupid thing is that I do pretty much live my life like a single person. I have an interesting and fulfilling career, I submitted my thesis for my MSc not long ago. I have child free time, disposable income and lots of friends! So the change wouldn’t be that much.

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nocoolnamesleft · Today 09:21

You clearly don’t trust him. I have no idea whether he has earned that distrust, but it almost doesn’t matter. If the trust is gone, the relationship is basically over.

swimsong · Today 09:21

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 07:58

I don’t think that even crosses his mind when he goes away. He lives a very compartmented life.

So you're not actually his 'partner'?
Are you sure he even thinks of you as a girlfriend?

foursquares · Today 09:24

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 07:30

Just that really! For context he’s 43, and self employed so it’s a work trip that he’s organised himself. It’s long haul and they will be away for a few weeks. She works for him at his house everyday mon-Fri, they are set up in his dining room. Desks next to eachother. We don’t live together.

The whole thing is making me feel a bit weird but I’m not sure why! I know if I try to talk to him about it it will just go round in circles and will just result in me feeling like a terrible person/jealous insecure girlfriend. He sees the trip as essential to the business, I don’t want to be accused of being unsupportive as I do support him massively.

just wondered how others would potentially feel about this situation? Am I being an absolute areshole girlfriend?

lol..i doubt a attractive 23 would look twice at a middle aged man. Relax

Rachelshair · Today 09:25

He's not really much of a partner if he's secretive about basic stuff, like where and when he is travelling on business (or tax deductible holiday). He's using the woman to attract business and make himself look good, at best. At worst, he is using her as a paid for girlfriend while he travels.
Is he even paying her a wage? The going away with her is the least of it really. If he's with her daily at home, they have plenty of opportunity to do whatever they want! Have you tried popping in at lunch, or joining him for part of a trip? I'd be curious about the dynamic, it's a very unusual situation.

Aluna · Today 09:26

To add to the web designer’s post. I’ve used web designers for my business going back 25 years. Never have I ever met a web designer who brought along a 22 yo sidekick. What is she bringing to the meeting?

If it was an actual firm, I’ve went to their office. If it’s freelance, I’ve looked at their portfolio and either talked the spec through on the phone or at my office.

He’s a fantasist OP with no idea how to run a business. I don’t think these are serious work trips he’s just living the life of Riley.

RabbitHead · Today 09:27

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 08:25

The trustworthy ‘decent’ men are all taken at this age.

Can you just be on your own? Boyfriends like this - you're on your own anyway!

SilverPink · Today 09:27

Honestly, the more you update the more I wonder what on earth you see in this guy. Does he have any good qualities?!

Horses7 · Today 09:27

You keep answering your question in your numerous subsequent threads - he’s no good and you know it!
There are so many red flags here I don’t know where to start.
Value yourself, respect yourself and get rid of this no good, gaslighting, cheating liar. You deserve to be happier and you will be. Be strong don’t put up with this unbalanced relationship.

SandyHappyPerson · Today 09:28

cheeseandhamtoastie42 · Today 09:21

The stupid thing is that I do pretty much live my life like a single person. I have an interesting and fulfilling career, I submitted my thesis for my MSc not long ago. I have child free time, disposable income and lots of friends! So the change wouldn’t be that much.

So why bother with him at all? Are you so materialistic that these 'grand gestures' are sustaining this relationship? That is the only positive thing you've said about him!

His "business" is just a front for travelling, he is most likely up to his eyeballs in debt, yet he still wants to "employ" a 22 year old young woman and take her with him on these completely unnecessary business trips.. he's basically buying her company as a travel companion.

With everything else you've said about him, I don't know how you even look at him to be honest.

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