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Boyfriend strange with money

387 replies

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

OP posts:
localnotail · Today 07:08

I would go as far as to suggest him "forgetting" his cards on the first date was a test to see if you would accept his terms - I doubt he would have seen you again if you refused to pay, or if you said you don't want to pay halves. I would suspect if you try to challenge this further he will end the relationship. Just think about it - money, to him, is hundred times more important than anything else you bring to the table. Him "gifting" you free petrol or buying a takeaway for himself only (without even asking you if you want something) would be the end for me, to be honest.

Iaeve · Today 07:08

All these comments blaming his ‘low salary’ or autism.

FFS the man is a miser romantically and financially!

OP please god bin this specimen. Your life will be so sad and depressing if you stay with him.

RoseOliviaAu · Today 07:09

Oh OP. I met my husband at just 18 when we were students… even he paid for dinner and bought me flowers when he was barely an adult.

A person who loves you should be willing to give you the shirt off their back (and you in return). Not asking for petrol money.

Sassylovesbooks · Today 07:10

Your boyfriend is tight with his money and resents having to spend it on other people. He earns a reasonable salary, yet only pays the bare minimum to his ex wife, because she receives the child benefit! You know yourself, having children of your own OP, that children cost way more than he's paying and he should be paying more.

The above in itself should be a red flag. He's not a good Dad, he doesn't see much of his children (EOW is the bare minimum) and he pays his ex a pittance towards them too.

The money situation isn't going to improve. His ex is probably correct, he is controlling with money. He dislikes spending it, and keeps those purse strings firmly in his hands. Unfortunately OP, this is who he is....and he's showing you who he is....please believe him.

Personally, I couldn't date someone like this. There's being careful with money and there's mean, and he falls within the mean category. End the relationship OP, at this point it's 1.5 years of your life, don't waste years on him.

localnotail · Today 07:11

To everyone justifying this crap - I previously dated guys who earned much less than this guy does, and none of them was as miserable, tight and weird as this guy. It is entirely possible to be romantic, generous and caring without spending much money - its the mindset, not the wallet that guides that.

JojoButBetter · Today 07:13

If he has decided to guilt trip you by not speaking to you, use it as an opportunity to dump him. Being sweet and nice doesn't really cut it when you are clearly exhausted by his behaviour. What do you get from this relationship?

RoseOliviaAu · Today 07:15

YesIKnowThatThankyou · Today 06:48

£50k per annum is not £3k a month. More like £2k after deductions. But even so.
The petrol station lunch would be a deal breaker for me and viewing it as part of birthday celebrations.

No it’s not… it’s £3.2k after tax. Take away pension and it’s £3040

ClovisWrites · Today 07:16

He might have had money worries in the past, he might be following some sort of ‘get out of debt’ programme. He might just be stingy of course. It sounds to me like what bothers you is not the amounts, but the fact special occasions are being made tense and awkward.

JojoButBetter · Today 07:17

Just wanted to add, that me reading your post has given me the creep. I'm reading with a 'urghhh' look on my face. You need to tell yourself that you are worth so much more than what he want's to give ... which is a pittance. He is seriously weird.

Rondayvu · Today 07:18

He is financially controlling and he genuinely believes every single penny he spends has to be applauded. I think stinginess is a mental illness all by itself being honest. Bet he has the best of everything himself though right? Absolute cocklodger and you deserve so much more than him.

Marvellousmeadows · Today 07:18

Dump, life is too short to spend time with a miser .

tara66 · Today 07:18

Can only say OP -
''The scales have fallen from your eyes''.
hope you now can see the truth re. this man.

Rondayvu · Today 07:25

I read something recently where it says listen to a man carefully when he is telling you what the ex did as it is usually what he himself did instead and looking back to my exes this is 100% true.

pilates · Today 07:27

I think you need to let this one go- you’re not compatible in many ways. His tightness is off the scale and very unattractive. Don’t waste any more time on him.

rwalker · Today 07:28

50k buying a house paying cms ( yes I know not a lot )
he’s skint
there can be many factors from childhood to being financially take advantage of in previous marriage

you know what your going to get so ether work with it it move on

Greyhound98 · Today 07:30

There’s being sensible with money and there’s being an absolute tight arse. I find this deeply unattractive and find a lack of generosity is a personality trait rather than just a habit with money.
Are you not immensely turned off by the fact he pays only the bare legal minimum for his kids? Asking you for petrol money is not normal, I would return him back where he came from and wouldn’t bother discussing it further with him. He can’t change his personality.

DidYeAye16 · Today 07:31

I absolutely couldn't be with someone like that. Whatever you do, never move in together.

littlemousebigcheese · Today 07:33

Urgh no, couldn’t be dealing with this. You deserve better

hypnovic · Today 07:35

He financially neglects his kids is tight and selfish...get rid

Resprayingmyaferraris · Today 07:37

Op my fil was like this we could never ever forget for one moment how he had got something for free or cheap or on a bargain . It ruined nearly all my interactions with him. Even meals at their house at Christmas they /he couldn't just give it a bloody rest. It was exhausting and painful and horrible.
It really affected my DH also and began our relationship like your man but soon loosened up once he was out of their regime !
We have a good balance now.

I think this is intrinsically how he is and you won't change him.

Resprayingmyaferraris · Today 07:38

What grey hound said and esp re discussing. You can't talk this out of him

Chilihealer · Today 07:38

I couldn’t get passed the not even going halves on a first date the stingy cunt, if a man expected me to pay for a first date there wouldn’t be a second. Im going to assume there wasn’t financial abuse in his first relationship and if there was he was the abuser. Imagine been in a long term relationship and having children with someone this stingy spending years picking the cheapest thing on the menu because he’s penny pinching, getting token gestures for Christmas/birthdays, buying himself a takeaway with no thought for you or your children, having to go halves on petrol for a day out. Ewww, I’d leave and find yourself a nice man that will treat you to a Chinese without mentally keeping score to make sure you pay for the second. Sounds exhausting on both ends tbh.

Leavesandthings · Today 07:39

What values does he display? Rather than getting hung up on his specific actions.

I would say he shows that

He doesn't care about fairness, only himself
He puts himself above his child and his child's quality of life
He does not value sharing, give and take, or generosity, he sees things through a 100 percent selfish lens at all times.
He is distrustful

What is good about this person?

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · Today 07:43

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:16

It does feel very literal and autistic. He often puts his foot in it by being super blunt/honest eg 'your house smells' and can otherwise be so sweet. It's so confusing.

He does sound a fair bit like he might be on the spectrum. My dad was and he was so tight with money.

Leavesandthings · Today 07:44

I would also add that this relationship can't have a future of cohabiting or anything more serious, as he would obviously be controlling about money like his ex wife says. He hasn't exactly hidden his true colours!
Can you imagine someone studying your every Tesco receipt and getting angry about it in the future? Run!!