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Boyfriend strange with money

372 replies

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

OP posts:
EatingHealthy · Today 04:55

Have you ever had an open conversation with him about budgets? Is he very careful about spending on himself as well? It's one thing if he's spending a lot on himself on luxuries whilst only buying you socks, it's another if he's genuinely on a tight budget and he has to be careful with money and also doesn't spend on himself. Depending on where you live you could need to budget carefully on £50k if you're renting, and trying to buy a house and your savings have been wiped out by a divorce - was he left with debt after the divorce?

SweetnsourNZ · Today 05:03

Get rid. He is a miser. Even if he buys a house he will try to move in with you and rent his out to make money which you will not be allowed to know anything about.
Concentrate on your children and yourself.
He should be concentrated on his own. EOW and only paying what he is forced to for his own children is pathetic and mean, especially as one has sn.

Madamefroufrou · Today 05:08

He sounds very odd, likely autistic, unappealing and frankly, weird.

Todayismyfavouriteday · Today 05:09

Oh my God, run for the hills. For me, stinginess is a deal breaker. It also reflects on so many other things. Personally, I could never like a man like this.

Nearly50omg · Today 05:13

HE is the financially abusive one and all abusers turn it round on the ex being the one being “abusive” when in fact it had been them all the time!

seriously be kind to yourself and get rid of the mean financially abusive arsehole!

Nearly50omg · Today 05:13

Madamefroufrou · Today 05:08

He sounds very odd, likely autistic, unappealing and frankly, weird.

Please don’t be so offensive!! Autistic people aren’t financially abusive!!

Kastri · Today 05:18

Sodthesystem · Yesterday 23:24

Maybe her feet were cold in bed at night and he’s so flipping tight he didn’t want to share BODY HEAT.

Edited

😅😅😅

Madamefroufrou · Today 05:26

Nearly50omg · Today 05:13

Please don’t be so offensive!! Autistic people aren’t financially abusive!!

I never said they were! nor implied this!

Aabbcc1235 · Today 05:27

Sharing a different perspective, I wonder whether he just genuinely doesn’t have any money?

If you were budgeted down to your last £20 then it would be pretty normal to need to choose carefully in a restaurant, think about what card to use, ask for petrol money, choose smaller presents like nice earrings that are on sale, save across two months for a birthday, cry when talking about money, pay cms minimum amount.

It would explain why he’s being cold now - he’s literally saved for 2 months to do gift and dinner - and now you’re saying no thank you.

That then brings up the question of why he has no money. And I suspect that there is probably something there - debt, gambling, alcohol, lied about salary etc.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 05:30

Throw this one back into the sea. He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing

GirlFromMontmartre · Today 05:38

Two Penneth - you have had a glimpse at how his ex wife was living and attempting to raise kids. No wonder there was no sex, as you’re fast finding out it’s actually deeply unattractive. Run like hell. Pretty sure you deserve more than a budgeted hot water bottle.

WelshRabBite · Today 05:44

He sees his kids four days a month and gives their mum £100 per child to raise them?

Are you fricking kidding me??

Come on! You have kids, you know how expensive they are.

If you spent just £100 per month, per child on all of their food, clothes, hobbies, travel, school activities, sanitary products, housing, utilities etc you’d be considered an abusive parent as they’d be under-nourished, in shoes that don’t fit, unable to shower because the cost of utilities/water would be too much, living in what? A cardboard box?

Why do women date men who treat their children so poorly?

This isn’t about him being weird with money on your birthday. This should be about him being a shit dad who is financially abusing his children that he barely sees; you should have left when you found that out, and told him why.

This man takes home over £3,200 per month, and yet just £200 goes on his kids; surely you can see how awful that is?

iamnotalemon · Today 05:45

Don’t get me wrong, I like a bargain and am careful with my money, but this man is tight as a ducks arse and clearly has some issues. My ex was a bit tight and it wasn’t a good characteristic.

Draytoncb · Today 05:45

Few things are more depressing than being stuck with a tightwad. You have to tell him to pay his share..

Jeschara · Today 05:52

Quite frankly this man would make my skin crawl. Meanness is not a good look.

Sally2791 · Today 05:53

Mean and manipulative. Most unattractive.

Goose8080 · Today 05:57

I'm not sure he does necessarily sound stingy rather than like he's struggling to afford things.
50K isn't that much if you're divorced with 2 children, renting and trying to buy somewhere to live.
Are you sure this isn't the case of not being able to afford meals out etc

Madamefroufrou · Today 06:04

Draytoncb · Today 05:45

Few things are more depressing than being stuck with a tightwad. You have to tell him to pay his share..

exactly! as at the moment the OP is subsidising him stashing
it away, counting every penny spent on her/them, whilst OP
completely misses how much she is being manipulated by him

sulking and withdrwing, provides a reason to end this romance

namechange62 · Today 06:05

FetchezLaVache · Yesterday 23:31

Your standards should be what you would want for your children.

He wanted to move in with you (to save himself money) but you resisted - so there's a good start. I imagine that was driven by the knowledge that his moving in early on wouldn't be the right thing for your children. You're clearly an excellent mother, so just view everything through the prism of what's right for your children - the treatment you wouldn't want them to accept, the behaviours you don't want modelling to them. If it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for you.

This statement should be posted on every thread where someone is confused about what standards are acceptable. It's simple and so true.

Feelfreee · Today 06:13

Sounds like he has secret debt.

Madamefroufrou · Today 06:13

CombatBarbie · Yesterday 23:34

I wonder how his savings look.......

exactly!

which makes him deceitful, cunning, lying, sponging, dishonest, manipulative

EnterFunnyNameHere · Today 06:19

FetchezLaVache · Yesterday 23:31

Your standards should be what you would want for your children.

He wanted to move in with you (to save himself money) but you resisted - so there's a good start. I imagine that was driven by the knowledge that his moving in early on wouldn't be the right thing for your children. You're clearly an excellent mother, so just view everything through the prism of what's right for your children - the treatment you wouldn't want them to accept, the behaviours you don't want modelling to them. If it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for you.

I've never seen it expressed so brilliantly - i think "Your standards should be what you would want for your children" should be the bar almost all the women on the Relationships board need to be aiming for!

Mycatmax · Today 06:19

Being super stingy is very unattractive. I wouldn’t waste any more time on him.

Horses7 · Today 06:22

Bye bye tightwad!
He sounds awful and is making you unhappy - dump!
You sound lovely and deserve a happier relationship.

NeelyOHara · Today 06:26

Feelfreee · Today 06:13

Sounds like he has secret debt.

Yeah, he taking home £3k + a month, and he’s only giving his kids £100 each nd makes you pay for everything he can.
He’s a piece of shit.