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Clare's Law disclosure has left me shaken about a new relationship

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Croissantsocks · Yesterday 17:44

Name changed for obvious reasons but I’ve been around for a long while.

I suppose I’m just looking for an anonymous handhold/solidarity as no one in real life I can talk to.
After a couple years of not dating at all and just having a great little life with my dd I met someone nice at a work conference, lives close to me. Handsome, funny, patient etc.
Huge tummy flips when I see him, great chemistry etc.
Anyway, he said something in conversation about an ex partner that kind of pricked up my ears, so I did a Clare’s Law request. Police called me within 24 hours and did the disclosure the next day (today).
It was so so upsetting, the poor woman all this stuff happened to. And there are incidents reported over 2/3 years so not something isolated (not that it would make it better).
He has no convictions because charges were dropped before it went to court on every occasion.

I had an abusive relationship years ago, and have rebuilt my life and confidence. I didn’t even want a serious partner, and never want to marry or for anyone to meet my dd (he hasn’t thank god)

I feel so dizzy and sick, and sad and disgusted at myself that these men are attracted to me, and me to them.

He has been perfection over the past few months, a perfect gent, kind and funny etc etc so I really would have had no idea if my spider senses didn’t start tingling a few days ago.

He’s working away today thankfully so I have space to process without texting or calls from him. I just feel frightened and confused.

sorry for the ramble

OP posts:
FloofyKat · Yesterday 22:57

So glad you didn’t ignore the tiny signs and took absolutely the right action.
Please don’t feel ashamed - the shame is his, and his alone to carry.
Be proud of yourself for recognising something wasn’t right, for being strong enough to contact the police, and for deciding to end your relationship.
We are all proud of you!

OrdinaryGirl · Yesterday 22:58

I am so so glad you trusted your instincts. What a vindication of those spidey senses! Big sisterly squeeze to you, OP. Go gently on yourself for the next days and weeks - I think anyone on your situation would feel very wobbly indeed at the bullet dodged. 💐 ☕️ 🍰

Comtesse · Yesterday 23:00

Viviennemary · Yesterday 21:58

Of course it matters. He hasn't been charged or been found guilty. I don't get it, Sorry.

You say some stupid things sometimes Vivienne and this takes the biscuit.

ParagliddingParagon · Yesterday 23:14

One thing I wanted to add OP is when you inform him (whatever is meant to be best method I don’t know) that it’s over, try and make sure you have a clear and full proof “reason” and end it cleanly, strongly as possible.

The reason I make this suggestion is because men like that can be very persistent, and even pop up a long time later, so convinced are they of their charms.

Luckily you did not introduce your child to him; you may have an unconscious suspicion. Luckily also it was only 3 months - but that may be enough for him to feel entitled to try and persuade you or keep contacting you.

Presumably the Police will help you, but also women’s aid may help you, with a plan. (The police may even suggest that if he doesn’t take no for an answer that you contact them again for them to take action against him, give him a warning etc; which may strengthen your position too. I doubt he would want to be on the Police’s radar again.

Jamlighter · Yesterday 23:22

Well done for recognising and acting on this

mathanxiety · Yesterday 23:33

The shocking thing here is that a man who could have killed his former partner and has numerous offenses to his name - and the police take the threat he poses so seriously that they have developed a safety plan for the OP - is out and about, living his best life, and isn't branded on the forehead or in jail as he should be.

Why is this dangerous man not behind bars?

mathanxiety · Yesterday 23:34

Comtesse · Yesterday 23:00

You say some stupid things sometimes Vivienne and this takes the biscuit.

I want to second that.

Well said.

OneFineDay22 · Yesterday 23:34

Not sure what you might have already told him, but could you tell him you’re going to have to take on caring responsibilities for a family member? Or you’ve just been offered a position doing some kind of second job or volunteering?

MrsFrTedCrilly · Yesterday 23:36

I have nothing to offer you other than my absolute admiration for trusting yourself. These creatures don’t deserve air.
Sending you lots of love and positivity going forwards

BountifulPantry · Yesterday 23:38

OP you’ve done yourself an absolute solid here. You spotted the issue, acted on it and have saved you and your child so much hurt.

you should be immensely proud of yourself.

A quick note on “chemistry” - I mean this really gently but “instant chemistry” for you is a red flag.

summeronthehorizon · Yesterday 23:49

@Croissantsocks I hope after this initial shock you are proud of yourself for being so intuitive that you did the check at all.

You’ve done nothing wrong.

PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 23:52

mathanxiety · Yesterday 23:33

The shocking thing here is that a man who could have killed his former partner and has numerous offenses to his name - and the police take the threat he poses so seriously that they have developed a safety plan for the OP - is out and about, living his best life, and isn't branded on the forehead or in jail as he should be.

Why is this dangerous man not behind bars?

Beause she was too terrified to testify and the CPS knew that they couldnt secure a conviction without it. I was the same. I was genuinely scared not only for my life but for my DD being left without her one stable parent.

fivepastmidnight · Yesterday 23:55

Croissantsocks · Yesterday 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

You've done absolutely nothing wrong. If it was blatantly obvious from the start about these men, they wouldn't get away with the things that they do. They are good at what they do. And in doing all the things that you've done following your previous relationship, You've honed your instincts really well and that's led you to get the disclosure. He is scum but you've done everything right.

cosimarama · Today 00:03

You should be proud of yourself. You saved yourself and your child. There are numerous men like him and you were unlucky, but you knew how to deal with him. I wish all women knew about Clare’s Law because he will move on.

ASandwichNamedKevin · Today 00:11

TheGardenPond · Yesterday 18:24

Well done for all the hard work you’ve done and all you have survived to get where you are today. I agree with all the posters saying well done for listening to your instincts and also for protecting your daughter from meeting him.

I also feel the need to thank the brave women who went before us who asked for and fought for Claire’s law to exist. I will teach my DD about it when she’s older.

And it’s appalling it even has to exist. And never forgetting the original Claire.

The original Claire was actually Clare.

Clare is Clare Wood, a 36-year-old mother from Salford, Greater Manchester, who was tragically murdered by her ex-boyfriend, George Appleton, in 2009. Appleton, who had a known history of violence against women, strangled and set her on fire. Police kept this information from Clare due to privacy laws.

Following her death, her family successfully campaigned for "Clare's Law" (the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme), which gives people the legal right to ask police if their current or ex-partners have a history of domestic abuse. You can learn more about how the scheme operates through the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme overview or request information through the UK Government Domestic Abuse Services portal.

user1492757084 · Today 00:28

Well done you for activating a Clare's Law.

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