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Clare's Law disclosure has left me shaken about a new relationship

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Croissantsocks · Today 17:44

Name changed for obvious reasons but I’ve been around for a long while.

I suppose I’m just looking for an anonymous handhold/solidarity as no one in real life I can talk to.
After a couple years of not dating at all and just having a great little life with my dd I met someone nice at a work conference, lives close to me. Handsome, funny, patient etc.
Huge tummy flips when I see him, great chemistry etc.
Anyway, he said something in conversation about an ex partner that kind of pricked up my ears, so I did a Clare’s Law request. Police called me within 24 hours and did the disclosure the next day (today).
It was so so upsetting, the poor woman all this stuff happened to. And there are incidents reported over 2/3 years so not something isolated (not that it would make it better).
He has no convictions because charges were dropped before it went to court on every occasion.

I had an abusive relationship years ago, and have rebuilt my life and confidence. I didn’t even want a serious partner, and never want to marry or for anyone to meet my dd (he hasn’t thank god)

I feel so dizzy and sick, and sad and disgusted at myself that these men are attracted to me, and me to them.

He has been perfection over the past few months, a perfect gent, kind and funny etc etc so I really would have had no idea if my spider senses didn’t start tingling a few days ago.

He’s working away today thankfully so I have space to process without texting or calls from him. I just feel frightened and confused.

sorry for the ramble

OP posts:
MrsMitford3 · Today 21:13

I didn't actually know who Clare was.

Very powerful story and a huge thanks to her Father who fought for the law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare%27s_Law

Clare's Law - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare's_Law

Booboobagins · Today 21:23

Big hugs, it's hard saying goodbye when you know you will get hurt in the process, but say goodbye you must.

I don't know what happened, but please don't break up in a private place. Make sure you are safe. Have a friend sit waiting for you wherever you do it so you are not alone.

It's awful how we have to plan for the worst, but that is the world we live in.

Take care x

Lilactimes · Today 21:24

Hi @Croissantsocks i just wanted to also say how brave and incredible you are. None of this is on you - please don't feel guilty, feel proud that you have set up a good life and that you're protecting it.
I am sorry that this has happened but it's bad luck, it's not you.
Please let us know you're safe and have extricated yourself xx

Happyjoe · Today 21:24

As much as a shock as it is, well done for listening to your gut. And just for the record you 'didn't chose one again', you went into a new relationship as we are supposed to, open to possibilities and trusting what they say. It's not your fault at all, you did nothing wrong imo. He is the arsehole in this situation.

Take good care and hope all goes smoothly going forward.

Myfridgeiscool · Today 21:31

Once again so grateful for Clare’s Law.
Always feel emotional when another woman is protected from harm by her Law.

Pessismistic · Today 21:33

Hi op please don’t feel stupid he’s a liar who hides his true colours. Op you were brave getting the police involved you protected your dd from day 1 it’s good your dd is not involved which is a positive. Op it could have been much worse so look at that rather than the negative. The police were not able to prosecute him but this report could help others who get involved with him before he hurts them. so you’re far from stupid. I hope you find yourself a decent bloke one day but always do your checks. I hope other women reading this post do this going forward. I know a few women who would not even think about it. Maybe mumsnet should do an article on it for others to see as a lot of us are aware of it but might not think of requesting it.

Tuesdayschild50 · Today 21:34

Wow so glad you have got this information and you followed a gut feeling we just know when something is off and how good it is that this service can help you to safely distance yourself and your daughter from this person.
Good luck with you're future you will get past this x

Lilactimes · Today 21:34

Lilactimes · Today 21:24

Hi @Croissantsocks i just wanted to also say how brave and incredible you are. None of this is on you - please don't feel guilty, feel proud that you have set up a good life and that you're protecting it.
I am sorry that this has happened but it's bad luck, it's not you.
Please let us know you're safe and have extricated yourself xx

Hi again @Croissantsocks - ive just read more of your posts and your earlier ones and it does seem to me like your programme did work. You have not only spotted a hole in his story, you've acted on it, you're extracting yourself from the relationship rather than think he may have changed and he's not met your daughter. These men are clever manipulators so to spot it before any major behaviour signs is all credit to you. i think you should be really proud ❤️

AlternateLook · Today 21:40

Wre · Today 17:50

Does it matter?

It kind of puts it into a bit more context. I wish people would stop policing other posters' threads.

MaidOfSteel · Today 21:42

It’s really sad that you put yourself down in your first post, OP. You have good instincts and you can now keep you and your daughter safe.

Periperi2025 · Today 21:43

Croissantsocks · Today 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

You haven't 'chosen one again'.

Statistically there are a fair number of bad men out there and a disproportionate number are likely to be single at anyone time as a result of their behaviours and as result of more good guys getting married and staying married.

You got unlucky and you Claire's lawed him early before introducing him to your DD, and now you are being decisive and leaving him and allowing the police to support you in this. So you did everything right.

This is not your fault.

Pearlstillsinging · Today 21:47

Croissantsocks · Today 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

But you picked up on the inconsistency straightaway. Would you have done that before the Freedom Programme?
You really have nothing to admonish yourself for. You have done all the right things including making sure that your daughter didn't meet him.
I'm sorry you are going through this experience but none of it is your fault.
Be careful how you end it, perhaps take the police advice. Good luck!

PyongyangKipperbang · Today 21:47

I hope that Clare Wood's family know just how many women their campaign has saved. Her life was cut tragically short, but it has meant so much to so many women who could have suffered the same fate. She has left an incredible legacy. RIP.

PyongyangKipperbang · Today 21:52

Croissantsocks · Today 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

But you didnt choose an abuser. You chose a loving kind sexy fun man who made you feel fantastic, no woman knowingly chooses someone she knows to be a violent maniac, Because when we meet them, they are not violent maniacs, no woman would give them the time of day if they were. Ask me how I know.

You did absolutely everything right, you have nothing to reproach yourself for.

bittertwisted · Today 21:52

Croissantsocks · Today 17:55

you agree in the disclosure not to share so I will honour that as far as the details obviously, but he could have killed her, yes. It was so hard to listen to, and just kept going with more dates, more offences etc.

the officer has referred me to another department tomorrow who are going to make a target hardening plan for after I ends things. So I will get it done over the next couple days and extract myself safely.

the confusion is more around unravelling the story he told me and the penny dropping I think.
he described a horrid assault with him as the victim, but it didn’t track with photos he had shown me (of himself) from around that time.
so he was describing what he did, but from the wrong point of view

You are told not to share, mostly because of the risk of retaliation against you, really please don’t

Woolyminded · Today 21:53

Well done OP! Instincts and gut feelings exist for this reason, they can potentially protect you from harm. Similar happened to me last year, horrible Clares Law disclosure, its a sickening feeling and I still feel I had a lucky escape.
Tread carefully in the coming weeks, I ended up with a stalking situation as he wouldnt accept that it was over. Mumsnet was a godsend, I had so much support and advice, and it helped keep me sane! I haven't read the full thread yet, but im probably echoing everyone else's advise to get cameras, double down on home security, etc. Best of luck

Nordic89 · Today 21:53

Croissantsocks · Today 17:55

you agree in the disclosure not to share so I will honour that as far as the details obviously, but he could have killed her, yes. It was so hard to listen to, and just kept going with more dates, more offences etc.

the officer has referred me to another department tomorrow who are going to make a target hardening plan for after I ends things. So I will get it done over the next couple days and extract myself safely.

the confusion is more around unravelling the story he told me and the penny dropping I think.
he described a horrid assault with him as the victim, but it didn’t track with photos he had shown me (of himself) from around that time.
so he was describing what he did, but from the wrong point of view

Fucking terrifying. I really hope the police help you extract yourself safely, as you have to do this.

Upthehill32156 · Today 21:54

Croissantsocks · Today 19:44

Thank you all so much, I’m having quite an ugly cry reading all this.

sorry to pp- I meant to quote. We work in the same industry but I am lucky in that I can choose what services I work with or swap with a colleague should I need to. My work is v v secure key cards etc so he can’t bother me there. I think I will tell my manager too but just fighting the shame of it at the moment to be honest.
I have a ring door bell being delivered tomorrow, and dd is away at dads on the weekend so I think I will send the text or call him once she’s left.

The police officer has said tomorrow they will arrange warning markers and things

Its so frightening and creepy, just knowing anyone of you could google him now and not one conviction would come up. I really don’t think you would have any idea looking at him

Hi,

Wow you've been really brave and courageous dealing with all of this. I just had one thing I wanted you to know from this post and that is, that it is NOT YOUR SHAME to carry. You have done nothing wrong. It is the man who committed these horrendous violent offences that should be feeling shame NOT YOU!

Love xx

CactusPeach · Today 21:54

Don't feel too down on yourself OP, despite his best efforts to deceive you, your intuition picked up on tiny micro signals and inconstancies and alerted you, and now you're trusting yourself enough to act on that.

Nordic89 · Today 21:55

Croissantsocks · Today 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

Not your fault. There are lots of cunts out there

Viviennemary · Today 21:58

Wre · Today 17:50

Does it matter?

Of course it matters. He hasn't been charged or been found guilty. I don't get it, Sorry.

bittertwisted · Today 22:00

TheThingOnTheIce · Today 18:54

I think even mn took it the wrong way as it’s been deleted now .
but yes op the gist of it was to make him feel like he has dodged a bullet . So he leaves you well alone and doesn’t try any bullshit

It was a bit extreme but I can guarantee this man will not leave her alone
he will try and charm and love bomb
pathetic as it is having to pander to his ego, he has to believe he is benefitting

Lakesfun · Today 22:04

Croissantsocks · Today 18:02

It was just that the story didn’t quite make sense, and I left the date feeling a bit strange.
I worked with women’s aid 6 years ago and they’d always said to check if I do meet anyone again.
I did the freedom program and did all the ‘right’ healing, so I just feel totally floored that I’ve chosen one again

But you spotted the red flag and took action. The work you've done has been a huge success. Well done.

GrandmasCat · Today 22:04

Bridgertonisbest · Today 18:19

I think that the fact that you did a disclosure as soon as your spidey senses were triggered shows that you have done the healing. Rather than looking at it like the "wrong men" are attracted to you and you to them, look at it as actually breaking the cycle. You've seen this one coming and you've swerved it whereas years ago, you would have ignored your spider senses and got sucked in.

I'm glad you've got the support from police to end things, he's clearly a dangerous man.

Big loves and a huge WELL DONE from me!

Good point.

Op, focus on this. If you worked with Women’s Aud you should know that all abusers are charming, that’s how they get away with it. That doesn’t mean all charming men are abusive but kiddos to you for listening to YOURSELF.

You are “cured”, trust me.

TheHillIsMine · Today 22:08

But you're not attracted to abusive men. You have just fallen for a man who hid his true self for a while.