Friend upset after I reported hacked account to the police

[ThisHappyBiscuit]

So my sons account got hacked by a friend of mines son who gave the details to someone to hack into. When this was all happening I said if my son's accounts password isn't given to me then im guna have to contact the police and my friend said "do it". So I did call when I didn't get the password. Ive gone upto my friend today and she's said do you really think you should be talking to me? I said why what's the matter? She said well we are under criminal investigation cause of you and we shouldn't be talking. I said well you told me to contact them and she said well it was to shut you up (in so many words) cause you were going off on one. Im really upset because I thought she was my friend and im just so lost now because I literally have no friends outside of my life. Can I just have some friendly words of encouragement because I'm just so lost and feeling so alone right now.

More like your child gives his key to a friend, friend then gives key to another friend who comes into the house and steels your son’s footballs. You find the key to the house and can carry on using it, minus the footballs. Your kid learns not to give their key away, kids friend needs telling off and telling to give their the footballs back. Kid who entered the house should be reported if anyone but it’s mostly kids being stupid all round. Loosing a crap friendship over it and not seeing the friends kid anymore isn’t a bad thing

regardless of whether or not calling the police was justified, isn’t it obvious that your friendship is going to be affected? Why would you be surprised by that?

No she didn't offer. I had to get the kids together to get him to get it all back. But she didn't want to be involved with it.

But i thought in my heart of hearts that if it was my son who did the same and my friend did that id still be friends with them. Cause my son would have been seriously reprimanded and id of been severely apologetic. But how I feel and what she feels are separate.

It'll be a community resolution kid gets a telling off mum pays the money back, no one is going to court over this

I have a key to my best friends car (So i can drive her to medical appts).
If i fell out with her, would it be ok for me to hand that to someone she doesn't know, who then uses it to open her car and steal from her?

You'd be ok with that would you? You'd just think you were a silly billy and not report it to the police?

Is it no longer theft if someone gives your car keys to someone and they steal your car?

It’s more that you can’t stop CPS pressing charges if they have a strong enough case without your co operation.

They might only choose to proceed with pressing charges if the victim wants to, but the victim can’t stop the CPS from doing so (see the Caroline Flack story where her bf was apparently begging the police to drop the charges against her, but they didn’t).

Are you 10 years old? Is your car worth £45? What does your mummy think?

Yeah i get that but I genuinely had no idea that it would have. I didn't think he or she would both be investigated. The police said all they would do is speak to them thats it. And thats all I asked of the police. But youre right. Im stupid to believe we would be friends after this all.

So you got the stuff back too?

My mum (who i have been reading this out to as we go) thinks the same as me actually.

You ok with someone taking £45 from your purse then?

Yes in the end we did. But this was well after the police were called. And I did tell the police it was given back. They said it didn't matter if it was.

I don’t need to google it. The police have twice said to me, on separate occasions for separate incidents, do you want to take it further, do you want to press charges. It was my call, my decision. Please don’t lecture me over something that has personally happened to me, where the police have personally spoken to me and given me that option. I am talking from real life experience here, not just googling and seeing what’s out there.

So your friends son did exactly the same as your son and passed a password on

I'd imagine as they were friends at the time OP DS didn't see anything wrong in giving out his password, silly thing to do, yes.

As they were no longer friends when
the other DC gave this information to someone else, probably knowing at the time exactly what it was for and agreeing to be part of the theft.

So IMO I don't see how this can be seen as the same due to the friend passing on the password all the while knowing it was about to be used for a criminal act.

Do any of you involved in this actually supervise your kids activity on the Internet? Do you know that Roblox is targeted by predators, groomers and paedophiles who join specifically to befriend young children?

1. What you've just described is still a crime, namely theft.
2. You are ignoring the third child's deliberate action to change the password that was thwarted only by the OP having a passkey, which would be the equivalent of the child changing the front door lock and the parent luckily having a back door key in their wallet.
3. The cooperation, or lack otherwise, of the other parents in resolving this, including returning the stolen items, would determine my willingness to forego making a police report.
4. There are specific offences listed in the Computer Misuse Act 1990 that criminalise denial of service attacks, including changing someone's password and not disclosing the new one.

None of this makes the OP's son any less of an idiot. But he's not committed the criminal offence here.

@ThisHappyBiscuit What do you mean you got the boys together to have the stuff returned? Unless you kidnapped them, surely their parents were instrumental in said get together?

Did the police come around and have a talking to him before the stuff was returned?

Regardless, I think you're lying to yourself a little. I truly don't believe that anyone would remain close friends with someone who called the police on their child about a relatively small issue.

Like, if my son did this, I would be mortified and apologetic. I would immediately rectify it and there would be no need to have the police tell me I had to repay it etc. There would be an apology from my child, too.

But I still wouldn't maintain a friendship. It would be way too awkward and uncomfortable. I'm really surprised you didn't assume that to be the case.

If they are 10 and they give it back I would report them to the police for it no. Weird that you can’t understand the difference between an adult and a child. Kid made a stupid error, and OPs kid got everything back in the end. World didn’t end, nobody’s car is stolen.

That’s not what we’re talking about here. Like I’ve said, in my personal case, I was asked on 2 separate occasions, over 2 separate incidents, if I wanted to press charges. If I chose to do so, then the police would have to act on that. They would deal with my incidents with a warning first, but if I didn’t want that and would prefer to press charges, they would have to start a case.

This is quite frustrating to read as it's simply not true so it's worrying to think that there is more than one police officer out there who doesn't know that victims don't "press charges" and they're just spouting nonsense to the public!

It was when you change the password and information so he cant get into it. I haven't wasted any time if an actual crime has been committed.

So are we all okay with scammers taking money from old people then? After all they answer the scammers questions and lose money.
The kid that did it and the one that encouraged them need some sort of telling off from the police otherwise who knows what will they do next.

1. they are kids though, all were stupid and the other kid did need telling off.
2. OP got the Roblox account and all the stolen stuff back
3. reporting your friends kid to the police is obviously going to impact the friendship regardless of who was wrong.
4. Roblox is not the same as a house, or a car, or murder or any of the other dramatic crimes detailed on here.

I had already made the report before it was all given back. Just because you steal something and give it back doesnt make it ok. Its still theft.

That isn't hacking though.

I'm not saying it was OK, but saying it was something it wasn't is muddying the water.

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