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To never be a wife

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Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 14:49

I've been with my partner over 20 years since we were young. We got together and had children in our teens, I became a SAHM and he worked hard to support us. He asked me to marry him a few years down the line and I said yes. We had more children and were so busy with life that marrying wasn't a priority for either of us and to be honest I wasn't overly bothered about rushing to get married when I was younger. At that age you feel like you've got all the time in the world. We talked about it a while ago, we're older now and I hoped we would marry in the next few years and he seemed on the same page about it during those conversations. However, he's recently made it clear that he doesn't want to marry me, ever. He says we've been together so long and doesn't see the point now, apparently it's only a piece of paper after all. I don't want a big wedding, a registery office would be fine. I want a marriage, to vow our commitment to eachother, to be eachothers next of kin, to call him my husband and to have his name for however many years we have on this earth. He doesn't seem to care how upset I am about it but he wanted the same only a few years ago, to get married eventually. I'm sure many people will say this is why you don't have children before marrying, if it meant that much why has it taken over 20 years etc but it happened and I can't change any of what we've done in the past. We can only move forward and change the future. I feel hurt, rejected, embarrassed, resentful even and i'm finding it difficult to feel the same about him so it's really been affecting our relationship. I can't get over these feelings no matter how hard I have tried. I don't want to throw away our relationship, it's been very tough at times, but we've made it all these years and I always thought we'd be together forever. My feelings have surprised me as I didn't realise being married meant this much to me until he decided it was off the table. I guess I just don't know what to do or how to make myself accept and be ok with the fact he doesn't want to get married to me. Has anyone been through similar, how did you get over feeling this way?

OP posts:
Newyearawaits · 02/02/2026 19:51

OP, has your partner indicated that he wants to separate?

YourWildAnt · 02/02/2026 19:51

Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 14:49

I've been with my partner over 20 years since we were young. We got together and had children in our teens, I became a SAHM and he worked hard to support us. He asked me to marry him a few years down the line and I said yes. We had more children and were so busy with life that marrying wasn't a priority for either of us and to be honest I wasn't overly bothered about rushing to get married when I was younger. At that age you feel like you've got all the time in the world. We talked about it a while ago, we're older now and I hoped we would marry in the next few years and he seemed on the same page about it during those conversations. However, he's recently made it clear that he doesn't want to marry me, ever. He says we've been together so long and doesn't see the point now, apparently it's only a piece of paper after all. I don't want a big wedding, a registery office would be fine. I want a marriage, to vow our commitment to eachother, to be eachothers next of kin, to call him my husband and to have his name for however many years we have on this earth. He doesn't seem to care how upset I am about it but he wanted the same only a few years ago, to get married eventually. I'm sure many people will say this is why you don't have children before marrying, if it meant that much why has it taken over 20 years etc but it happened and I can't change any of what we've done in the past. We can only move forward and change the future. I feel hurt, rejected, embarrassed, resentful even and i'm finding it difficult to feel the same about him so it's really been affecting our relationship. I can't get over these feelings no matter how hard I have tried. I don't want to throw away our relationship, it's been very tough at times, but we've made it all these years and I always thought we'd be together forever. My feelings have surprised me as I didn't realise being married meant this much to me until he decided it was off the table. I guess I just don't know what to do or how to make myself accept and be ok with the fact he doesn't want to get married to me. Has anyone been through similar, how did you get over feeling this way?

Financially, would you be better off if you left him and claimed UC? I'd imagine the likelihood is yes, you would. You would also have your pension contributions covered by UC which you currently don't if he is the only one bringing in any money.
It's a shame because you love him and have a family together, but your children will grow up (certain) and you may fall out of love (this sounds like an increasing possibility). You are never going to NOT need money, so that may need to take priority.
Good luck to you. X

bigboykitty · 02/02/2026 19:52

QuickPeachPoet · 02/02/2026 19:40

You had a pension. You worked, you paid into one. OP is doing nothing, has no pension, and relies on this man for money!

I was commenting on your blanket advice which isn't necessarily appropriate. I know what my situation was and the OP doesn't need it rubbing in about her own position.

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 19:53

It’s not a piece of paper
It gives you financial and legal protections

This.

Sadly he would be a fool to marry you now. He may as well just write you a check for half of all he’s worked for.

rainbowsparkle28 · 02/02/2026 19:54

Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 15:26

I'm still a SAHM. No wills in place, he's says they're not worth the paper they're written on. I wanted us to do our wills recently but he won't do it. House is a joint mortgage.

He sure has a lot to say about pieces of paper doesn’t he 🙄 Honestly in your current situation you are incredibly vulnerable and the fact he doesn’t want to know about it to me raises huge flags, I think he know what side his bread is buttered and that concerns me because if he leaves tomorrow, broadly speaking, you have no claim to anything aka no protection or security really. Also - re mortgage, you might have a joint mortgage, but more crucially are you on the deeds of the property, my understanding is this can be two different matters. I would seriously be getting legal advice.

Starfish1021 · 02/02/2026 19:55

I absolutely hate these threads because it’s just so heartbreaking. It is incredibly common for women not to realise the financial vulnerability you can be placed in by not getting married and having kids. Even more so when you set away from work. As others have said you are 38. That isn’t too old at all. Have a good think about what you want to secure your future. Is it getting qualification? Is it dipping your toes into the workplace? As you have worked out he clearly knows what he is doing and currently holds all the power. But there doesn’t have to stay this way. You now have the blinkers removed and you can start to think what you want to do next.

bigboykitty · 02/02/2026 19:55

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 19:53

It’s not a piece of paper
It gives you financial and legal protections

This.

Sadly he would be a fool to marry you now. He may as well just write you a check for half of all he’s worked for.

*they've worked for

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 20:00

bigboykitty · 02/02/2026 19:55

*they've worked for

He wouldn’t have access to her money - just his. They are not married.

Elsvieta · 02/02/2026 20:00

Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 15:26

I'm still a SAHM. No wills in place, he's says they're not worth the paper they're written on. I wanted us to do our wills recently but he won't do it. House is a joint mortgage.

What?! With children? And not married? If he died intestate and you were his wife, you'd inherit. As it is... Oh dear.

Wills are legally binding, and there's no way he doesn't know that. He thinks you're stupid. Don't be.

CommonlyKnownAs · 02/02/2026 20:01

The best thing you can do now OP is start thinking about your earning potential. Do you have any qualifications?

bigboykitty · 02/02/2026 20:03

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 20:00

He wouldn’t have access to her money - just his. They are not married.

It's everything they've worked for. Do you have problems understanding things?

wayfairer · 02/02/2026 20:05

If she died would he also have issues of inheritance? As she is named on the mortgage maybe the house? Just wondering if that would make him rethink things?
So sad. I hope he wakes up and marries you. Even if he doesn't you definitely need to make a will. If you are named on the house.

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 20:06

bigboykitty · 02/02/2026 20:03

It's everything they've worked for. Do you have problems understanding things?

I understand the law enough to know who didn’t earn the money 😆

deeahgwitch · 02/02/2026 20:07

Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 15:26

I'm still a SAHM. No wills in place, he's says they're not worth the paper they're written on. I wanted us to do our wills recently but he won't do it. House is a joint mortgage.

He says
He says a lot doesn’t he !
To suit himself and his finances.
He’s not a lawyer I presume ?
You are in a vulnerable position.
Why his change of heart ?

deeahgwitch · 02/02/2026 20:08

@Elsvietagot it right- “….He thinks you’re stupid.”

Prove him wrong.

Itsasecretnow · 02/02/2026 20:09

@WhatwouldyoudonowI know this isn’t exactly what you want, but have you looked into a civil partnership? It’s a kind of compromise, I guess.

My particular situation with a long term partner (15+ years) has led me to look into that. Neither of us want to be married - neither have been despite previous long term relationships (his - with his previous partner, who is the mother of his now adult children - far longer than my longest. My child is also now an adult) His youngest, and mine are similar ages and both were teens when we got together, but the last few years a few things have happened which has made me think about the legality of our situation. Mainly around health issues tbh. Mine is not good, he’s older than me but with no health conditions at all. But there’s the possibility of something happening to one of us and - although I don’t believe either his family or mine would ever stop us having access to hospitals etc if something bad happened - but we’d not legally be next of kin so (although he is down as mine in hospital records, along with my child, but I have no real idea if legally that even matters) wouldn’t have the power of decision making, and that concerns me. We don’t share finances - our situation is a bit different, and a bit more complex - but if I’m honest without any financial security it would be difficult for me if something happens to him before me, due to him being older, despite being in much better health than me. I am disabled, and that limits my life in many ways and definitely makes me think about things a lot more.

Sometime in the last 3/4 years - after Covid, and this I think is what suddenly made me think about the legality of our future - I discovered that civil partnerships for same sex couple were coming into law so I suggested that to him. He initially was obviously taken aback by that, as it came out of the blue. He did agree in principle - mainly due to the legalities it afforded us re the health/nok - and we’ve mentioned it a few times since but never got round to it. He’s absolutely not against it in principle at all and said whilst he’s never wanted to be married (same as I never had) he could, in theory, accepts and agrees that it’s different. We’ve not got round to it yet due to a whole mass of other stuff having priority, but I’m still set on it. And I will make it happen! 😀 we don’t even think we’d tell people (our kids, yes, maybe a friend or two) and have no need for a ceremony, guests, party, even a meal to mark it. A quick 10 minutes, ever and done!

Sorry this turned long. Have you looked into this as well? Like my partner (and myself), who are both against marriage, a civil partnership affords you exactly the same legal protections as a wedding would. You wouldn’t be able to call him husband - technically - but obviously you still could, if that was I important to you, but it appears that what is importantly in your situation is being covered legally. This might be something you could consider and do some research and then bring it up with him, emphasising that you wouldn’t be married, the whole husband and wife, having to stand there and declare all extra stuff that doesn’t come with a CP “ceremony”. It’s literally like 5 minutes, barely any different to registering a birth etc. have a couple of people as witnesses, invite anyone you want or nobody at all. You don’t need to have any reception or even have people there to “watch you” (god, I hate the thought of bring that centre of attention anyway!) if he’s not into that part of a marriage ceremony. You can even just do it without telling anyone, or making a big deal of it, and not inviting anyone at all - you can even just pick a couple of random strangers at witnesses; I was very recently one of 2 “Mumsnet” strangers who were witnesses for their marriage ceremony! We were the only two extra people there, and didn’t even meet until about 5 minutes before. Honestly, it was great, and a really lovely ceremony, so as to say it really doesn’t have to be anything big for it still to be special. This was a legal marriage, but was over and done in like 10/15 mins max, and the same as a civil partnership ceremony would be. I don’t know, just consider it 🤷🏼‍♀️

I wish you good luck in whatever your future becomes.

CluelessAboutBiology · 02/02/2026 20:10

“It’s just a piece of paper”. Yeah, well so is a £50 note, a winning lottery ticket and a cheque for £1 million, but I bet he wouldn’t turn any of them down.

99bottlesofkombucha · 02/02/2026 20:10

I’m afraid you need a career now op, you are very vulnerable. Will he support paying for a qualification? You need to be very practical and very selfish, like he’s been.

TheHillIsMine · 02/02/2026 20:11

Why do you want to marry this man? He's awful.

Maybe give him one chance. Say I really want us to be married for X reasons then give emotional and practical. If he says no, then say okay I'll start looking for a new place as this is over.

if I hadn't have been married it wouldn't have counted for anything that we'd been together 27 years. It's not just a piece of paper. When will people learn? This type of thread pops up constantly.

123123again · 02/02/2026 20:13

PlumDeNomNomNom · 02/02/2026 19:53

It’s not a piece of paper
It gives you financial and legal protections

This.

Sadly he would be a fool to marry you now. He may as well just write you a check for half of all he’s worked for.

Well yes. Exactly what you want if you live someone.

Be careful Op. It’s a called a midlife crisis for a reason. It will both emotional and financially fuck you up if he leaves you.

CommonlyKnownAs · 02/02/2026 20:14

Couldn't hurt to propose a civil partnership, some men will go for them, but my guess is if he's dipshit enough to think a will is just a piece of paper he's going to feel the same about a CP.

OP is there enough money to start paying into a private pension for you, if you don't have one already? You don't need a job to have one.

EarthSight · 02/02/2026 20:15

apparently it's only a piece of paper after all

This is usually the biggest and most common lie men tell women about marriage.

If it was 'just a piece of paper' he would have no problems at all with going down to the registry office next week to get married.

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 02/02/2026 20:15

Whatwouldyoudonow · 02/02/2026 15:31

I don't know

How on earth did you buy a house and not know what your share of it is

you could be 50 -50 or have 10 percent or whatever

you need to start thinking about you cos he clearly is only thinking about himself

EarthSight · 02/02/2026 20:15

CluelessAboutBiology · 02/02/2026 20:10

“It’s just a piece of paper”. Yeah, well so is a £50 note, a winning lottery ticket and a cheque for £1 million, but I bet he wouldn’t turn any of them down.

This.

ASometimeThing · 02/02/2026 20:21

My friend’s partner is like this. Not a romantic bone in his body. They’ve been together for 20+ years.

They had had a civil partnership last year to do the legal bit - that was the best she could get from him.

Would your partner consider this? It’s just a case of formally signing something - no vows or fuss. At least you’d be protected.