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How do you grieve a marriage to someone with Autism and ADHD after divorce?

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Bramble234 · 31/12/2025 19:21

I was married 20 years. In the early days there were a few odd things he said but i was totally in love. After 10 years we had a lot of issues with needing IVF, my health issues, issues with family pets etc etc. I noticed as soon as the hit the fan he ran a mile. When we disagreed we couldn't talk about it. He just didnt seem able to chat. We saw a counsellor and it didnt help. Eventually we got divorced, We coparent our 2 kids. He has severe depression although its somewhat controlled now. I have severe physical health issues, work full time and do 95% of the parenting. He's had a girlfriend for a year or so. I'm single after a 3 year relationship post divorce.

Recently our son was assessed and has ADHD. This has bought things to a head with my exh and he finally got assessed. He has always known he has dyslexia but has now been diagnosed with ADHD and Autism.

We tried to have a conversation yesterday about our daughter and his autism is so so so obvious now. His response to some of the chat was just cruel and heartless. I think back to the last 25 years and he has never said thanks to me, never told me im good at anything, never given me a hug and comforted me through all the trauma we have had. He's had so much therapy that if i tell him now that im struggling with something he says that he 'hears what im saying'. He sounds like a robot. He doesn't feel anything, He's just trying to express the emotions he has been told he should have. I've recently learned i need another surgery and his response was what if it goes wrong and your disabled, meaning he would have to have the kids more.

We divorced 5 years ago but he has lived with me and the kids for the last 6 months because he lost his job and house. He is moving out in March to his own place as he has a job now. I didn't want to let him move back in but he had no where else to go and the kids want to see him.

I just cant get passed the anger at him for being so uncaring, at myself for not knowing something was different all along, for always thinking at some point he would give me a hug and comfort me even after 20 years of him never doing that.

My kids have ADHD and one has dyslexia. I fear so much for them if they grow up like their dad. He is so selfish, self obsessed and cold. He cant help it, i know that now. Its how his brain work. As he has a girlfriend i assume he doesn't come across this way to her.

I just feel so sad. I just don't know how to move on. Its been nearly 5 years and i still struggle to accept that he just isn't the man i thought i married, that he was never capable of giving me what i wanted, that i was so stupid not to realise earlier. The relationship was so one sided where emotions were concerned that I made myself physically ill carrying the load all by myself. I just feel so sad i got it so wrong. We both would have had such better lives if we had been with other people. If he had known 25 years ago that he had ADHD and Autism his life would have made more sense to him and we would never have got together.

And i know people with autism and ADHD can have a wonderful life, i know there are positives and i focus on them for my kids. But they both mean my exh could never be the man i thought and hoped he was. The formal diagnosis has made me so sad.

OP posts:
chocciechocface · 06/01/2026 11:04

CrazyGoatLady · 06/01/2026 08:52

Not much shocks me but wow. I have high emotional needs now because I'd like a hug and comfort because ive just found out I have a 2 week hospital stay and am upset.

That's valid, and you are deserving of support and comfort. I just feel you are placing the blame in the wrong place here for not getting it from your ex. The diagnosis is a red herring and it's both letting him off the hook and making you think that he might have been the partner you needed without his ND. I guess you won't ever know, but what matters now is protecting yourself from his propensity to take from you and not give back.

A little look around this forum will show you that disengaged, disinterested and lazy men are ten a penny on here, both NT and ND. Men who have kids because "it's what you do" not because they want to be fathers. Men who get swept along with the tide. Men who want kids and a wife but don't want the hard work that goes with it. Your ex isn't special in this regard because he's ND. He's one of a countless stream of these crap men who put the bare minimum in and expect far more out. And too many women let them because the alternative feels so hard and lonely. I don't like the ableism on here, but equally, I don't like the tendency to excuse plain old shittiness in men because ND either. Because we ND women don't get the same free pass, and the net result is often the same for ND female partners of said rubbish men. They too end up as single parents even while still in the relationship, carrying the load, suffering in silence, wondering what on earth they need to do to get the man to see they can't do it alone.

He's your ex - he should be co-parenting your children and supporting you in that way, and doing his share, but he isn't obligated to give you hugs and emotional comfort, and nor are you obligated to do that for him. Time to get tough, diagnosis or no diagnosis. He needs a timeline to move out and quit expecting support from you that he's not prepared to give himself to coparent as a team. The diagnosis is a red herring - with or without it, he's failing his family. Boundaries are your best friend.

You deserve a partner who can meet your emotional needs and I say this with kindness, stop looking for it in someone who will never be able to give it to you and being disappointed when you get the same result over and over again. Don't do it to yourself any more. He isn't going to change. And stop meeting his high emotional needs when he can't or won't meet yours.

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The diagnosis is a red herring and it's both letting him off the hook and making you think that he might have been the partner you needed without his ND.

A little look around this forum will show you that disengaged, disinterested and lazy men are ten a penny on here, both NT and ND.

Your ex isn't special in this regard because he's ND. He's one of a countless stream of these crap men who put the bare minimum in and expect far more out.

I take issue with all of this.

I have a relative who obsessively lines objects in a straight line and steps over cracks in pavements. Are you going to tell me this has nothing at all to do with her diagnosed OCD and that some people just like rituals?

We all understand that diagnosed conditions manifest in patterns of behaviour. Naming that isn’t stigma, it’s accuracy.

So why does that logic suddenly collapse when ASD is involved?

A woman comes into a forum seeking support for the impacts of living with someone who cannot meet her emotional needs and cannot communicate with her about his inability to meet those needs. She feels alone. She experiences him as unusually cold and selfish and marvels at his inability to empathise with her even when she’s facing extreme hardship.

This man also has ASD - a social and communication disability. Yet suggesting that his disability may be central to these relational difficulties is treated as taboo, while describing him as abusive, shit, nasty, or a “bad egg” is somehow considered more acceptable.

That is incoherent.

Ignoring a diagnosed social and communication disability and instead framing the person as morally defective is not anti-ableist - it is the definition of ableism. You would not say to his face, “you’re an abusive bastard,” while deliberately disregarding his diagnosis. That framing only survives in anonymous spaces like Mumsnet and it serves to deflect hard to hear uncomfortable truths.

On my father’s side of the family I have nine - yes, nine - neurodivergent relatives. None of them are intentionally abusive. They are all decent people and all very different. That is a fact.

It is ALSO a fact that they all, in different ways, have challenges that some have managed to address better than others.

One them used to pound his head on his cot as a baby; he takes apart electrical appliances and puts them back together; his thumb and first finger are constantly twitching, and he constantly chews the inside of his cheek; he has an incredible memory for facts. This is ASD, right?

In addition, his personal hygiene is poor. He has zero awareness that he stinks and people find that gross. He routinely violates social and sexual boundaries by touching women inappropriately, standing too close, leering. And when triggered, he loses control spectacularly. The day I told him to fuck off I was violently assaulted.

Those behaviours are also ASD-related. Saying so is not ableist. It is describing reality.

The thesis of this thread is simple: when ASD-related behaviours cause harm to others, those harmed do not have to endure it in silence and they do not have to tolerate it.

Safeguarding is about impact, not intent. I know my relative doesn’t intend to violate personal spaces and that he attacked me because he struggles with emotional regulation. I know he has never had support to address these issues because ASD wasn’t recognised when he was a child. This is all irrelevant to ME as a human. I do not have to live with harm, tolerate harm, even if it’s unintentional.

Acknowledging harm is not the same as accusing someone of malice.

What is ableist is the idea that anyone with an ASD diagnosis whose behaviours harm others must automatically be framed as a bad person - rather than as someone whose disability is manifesting in ways that require firm boundaries, intervention, and protection for others.

Disability explains behaviour.

It does not neutralise its impact.

And it does not obligate victims to tolerate harm.

chocciechocface · 06/01/2026 11:22

WhatNoRaisins · 06/01/2026 10:54

One thing that I think gives some hope for ND children's future relationships is that I think we are becoming much more realistic about masking and it's limitations. When I was at school back in the 00s there was almost a feeling of if you can mask well enough then everything is fine, like people didn't realise that it's not possible to mask indefinitely without significant costs.

With these troubled ND/NT relationships a common factor seems to be masking so at the first the NT partner is getting their emotional needs met but when it can't be kept up you get this situation. Better to go into a relationship without feeling any need to mask to begin with.

I agree with this, assuming it means the ND person ultimately forms a meaningful honest relationship for them.

What concerns me though is with the mainstream schooling of kids with additional needs, and the education about difference and tolerance etc, is kids are learning that objecting to behaviours originating from a disability is taboo.

I used to worry that DD would tolerate harm to herself because she wouldn’t feel it was OK to stand up to it if the individual was ND.

What seems to be happening instead is that kids are discretely avoiding interaction with the kids who have social issues. They know they can’t publically call it out without stigma, but they also know they don’t like the way it makes them feel, so they choose to not form relationships with the ND kids.

I think the denial of the impact social disorders have on others is reinforcing isolation for some ND kids.

chocciechocface · 06/01/2026 11:29

@Serendipetty

If I were someone with negative views of ND people (which I am not!) I would have had those thoughts affirmed by this thread.

The irony of that struck me too.

WindyW · 06/01/2026 11:47

Great post. In late diagnosis the ASD partner has sometimes made implicit or explicit promises which can fall away when masking ends, creating a situation where a form of grief occurs for the NT partner. In effect their incompatibility was made unclear by masking plus gendered roles.

For some people masking also involves delaying challenging things so it doesn’t immediately appear that boundaries are being crossed in a relationship. Being in this space where someone says one thing but does another is baffling. That’s why it’s hard to get immediate clarity and leave as PPs have suggested.

Hoping that the next generation will be more likely to be diagnosed and accommodated, and won’t need to mask as much and therefore be better able to communicate with partners. The damage is done to both partners in an unhappy marriage wheee nobody is understood.

CrazyGoatLady · 06/01/2026 11:55

chocciechocface · 06/01/2026 11:04

The diagnosis is a red herring and it's both letting him off the hook and making you think that he might have been the partner you needed without his ND.

A little look around this forum will show you that disengaged, disinterested and lazy men are ten a penny on here, both NT and ND.

Your ex isn't special in this regard because he's ND. He's one of a countless stream of these crap men who put the bare minimum in and expect far more out.

I take issue with all of this.

I have a relative who obsessively lines objects in a straight line and steps over cracks in pavements. Are you going to tell me this has nothing at all to do with her diagnosed OCD and that some people just like rituals?

We all understand that diagnosed conditions manifest in patterns of behaviour. Naming that isn’t stigma, it’s accuracy.

So why does that logic suddenly collapse when ASD is involved?

A woman comes into a forum seeking support for the impacts of living with someone who cannot meet her emotional needs and cannot communicate with her about his inability to meet those needs. She feels alone. She experiences him as unusually cold and selfish and marvels at his inability to empathise with her even when she’s facing extreme hardship.

This man also has ASD - a social and communication disability. Yet suggesting that his disability may be central to these relational difficulties is treated as taboo, while describing him as abusive, shit, nasty, or a “bad egg” is somehow considered more acceptable.

That is incoherent.

Ignoring a diagnosed social and communication disability and instead framing the person as morally defective is not anti-ableist - it is the definition of ableism. You would not say to his face, “you’re an abusive bastard,” while deliberately disregarding his diagnosis. That framing only survives in anonymous spaces like Mumsnet and it serves to deflect hard to hear uncomfortable truths.

On my father’s side of the family I have nine - yes, nine - neurodivergent relatives. None of them are intentionally abusive. They are all decent people and all very different. That is a fact.

It is ALSO a fact that they all, in different ways, have challenges that some have managed to address better than others.

One them used to pound his head on his cot as a baby; he takes apart electrical appliances and puts them back together; his thumb and first finger are constantly twitching, and he constantly chews the inside of his cheek; he has an incredible memory for facts. This is ASD, right?

In addition, his personal hygiene is poor. He has zero awareness that he stinks and people find that gross. He routinely violates social and sexual boundaries by touching women inappropriately, standing too close, leering. And when triggered, he loses control spectacularly. The day I told him to fuck off I was violently assaulted.

Those behaviours are also ASD-related. Saying so is not ableist. It is describing reality.

The thesis of this thread is simple: when ASD-related behaviours cause harm to others, those harmed do not have to endure it in silence and they do not have to tolerate it.

Safeguarding is about impact, not intent. I know my relative doesn’t intend to violate personal spaces and that he attacked me because he struggles with emotional regulation. I know he has never had support to address these issues because ASD wasn’t recognised when he was a child. This is all irrelevant to ME as a human. I do not have to live with harm, tolerate harm, even if it’s unintentional.

Acknowledging harm is not the same as accusing someone of malice.

What is ableist is the idea that anyone with an ASD diagnosis whose behaviours harm others must automatically be framed as a bad person - rather than as someone whose disability is manifesting in ways that require firm boundaries, intervention, and protection for others.

Disability explains behaviour.

It does not neutralise its impact.

And it does not obligate victims to tolerate harm.

I don't disagree with you at all. I may be coming across a bit harsh towards the OP's partner here because as a ND woman, I've never had the kind of pass ND men get, due to gendered socialisation and conditions of worth. The way patriarchy operates means men are often more sheltered from having to do the grunt work and emotional labour of family life and child rearing. I've not said OP's ex is a bad person or abusive, but he does appear to be another one of these men who doesn't - or can't - take an equal share of the load. His being ND doesn't change that reality, and his ND isn't going to be the only factor in why this situation is the way it is. We are all influenced by upbringing, family, society, culture, etc to a degree.

Equally, being unable to meet your partner's emotional needs is not in itself abuse, and OP continually expecting and wanting her needs to be met by someone she's been separated from for several years is basically emotional self harm, and a habit she may need help to break. It is equally harmful for her to be allowing him to stay with unspoken conditions around the support he's meant to offer, expecting him to behave like her partner when they aren't together any more, and placing those emotional expectations on him when he's made it clear he can't, and likely does not want to meet them.

The essence of what I'm saying here is that blaming everything on the xDH's ND is not accurate, and not fair. OP needs to take some responsibility for changing the dynamic on her side too, to protect herself from this continuous cycle of expecting things from someone who clearly cannot and will not meet her half way, for whatever reasons, and being angry and disappointed.

Bramble234 · 06/01/2026 12:30

CrazyGoatLady · 06/01/2026 11:55

I don't disagree with you at all. I may be coming across a bit harsh towards the OP's partner here because as a ND woman, I've never had the kind of pass ND men get, due to gendered socialisation and conditions of worth. The way patriarchy operates means men are often more sheltered from having to do the grunt work and emotional labour of family life and child rearing. I've not said OP's ex is a bad person or abusive, but he does appear to be another one of these men who doesn't - or can't - take an equal share of the load. His being ND doesn't change that reality, and his ND isn't going to be the only factor in why this situation is the way it is. We are all influenced by upbringing, family, society, culture, etc to a degree.

Equally, being unable to meet your partner's emotional needs is not in itself abuse, and OP continually expecting and wanting her needs to be met by someone she's been separated from for several years is basically emotional self harm, and a habit she may need help to break. It is equally harmful for her to be allowing him to stay with unspoken conditions around the support he's meant to offer, expecting him to behave like her partner when they aren't together any more, and placing those emotional expectations on him when he's made it clear he can't, and likely does not want to meet them.

The essence of what I'm saying here is that blaming everything on the xDH's ND is not accurate, and not fair. OP needs to take some responsibility for changing the dynamic on her side too, to protect herself from this continuous cycle of expecting things from someone who clearly cannot and will not meet her half way, for whatever reasons, and being angry and disappointed.

I didnt say I asked him for support. I told him my hospital news and expected nothing.
I have completely altered my expectations of him. If we were married id have been upset but I knew it was pointless to say anything as nothing would change. Now were not together I expect nothing from him except the response he gave. My mentioning it on this thread was just as an example of the wide abyss in emotions between us.
He has told me recently about problems with his mum and I have comforted him and said kind words. I could have said nothing, like he does with me, but I won't change myself in that way. I have tried. I cant see someone needing support and blank them just to prove a point.

just because were divorced doesnt mean we cant be kind, especially living together. But as usual its not a 2 way kindness.

Im not angry or expecting different. I have totally changed what I want from him. The only reason I have had this experience with him is because he lives with me. Once he moves out our dynamic will be much better.

OP posts:
WhatNoRaisins · 06/01/2026 13:50

chocciechocface · 06/01/2026 11:22

I agree with this, assuming it means the ND person ultimately forms a meaningful honest relationship for them.

What concerns me though is with the mainstream schooling of kids with additional needs, and the education about difference and tolerance etc, is kids are learning that objecting to behaviours originating from a disability is taboo.

I used to worry that DD would tolerate harm to herself because she wouldn’t feel it was OK to stand up to it if the individual was ND.

What seems to be happening instead is that kids are discretely avoiding interaction with the kids who have social issues. They know they can’t publically call it out without stigma, but they also know they don’t like the way it makes them feel, so they choose to not form relationships with the ND kids.

I think the denial of the impact social disorders have on others is reinforcing isolation for some ND kids.

I think inclusion can have similar limitations to masking in that it's easy to take a very short term snapshot of it and think that it works well but when you look at the nuances over the longer term the flaws appear. A lot of it seems very shallow, like the fact that someone is physically in the same classroom as others doesn't necessarily mean that they are meaningfully included.

BruFord · 06/01/2026 15:02

@CrazyGoatLady @chocciechocface Your discussion of disability-related behavior, harm to others and whether someone is a “bad person” immediately makes me think of someone I know whose ex-husband has ASD.

She was in a serious car accident and took months to recuperate. He wasn’t the greatest at empathizing and supporting her, which was upsetting but she realized why he found it difficult -it’s what @chocciechocface describes as disability-explaining behavior.

Then he took up with an ex-gf and started having an affair. That’s not disability-related, that’s malice/horrible behavior as @CrazyGoatLady describes.

Ultimately, the OP is mourning her relationship while her ex is living under her roof- it’s not an emotionally healthy situation for her, especially while she’s physically unwell. He does need to find a way to adequately parent their children while she’s in hospital, his diagnosis doesn’t absolve him of that responsibility.

CrazyGoatLady · 06/01/2026 16:41

@BruFord - absolutely agree with all of that.

Serendipetty · 06/01/2026 17:39

I am not the OP obviously but I have contributed to this thread a fair bit so now gender has come into it I will say that my ex DP was a woman.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/01/2026 13:24

Stompingupthemountain · 05/01/2026 20:30

Also the ND/NT thing is irrelevant really. If a relationship isn’t working for you, leave. It really is that simple.

It really, really isn't when you have children and severe health problems of your own, as the OP has.

It REALLY isn't.

staryellow · 07/01/2026 13:24

I'm sorry for what you've been through and I'm sure you don't mean to offend, but the idea that his negative qualities are 'because of his autism' is offensive and just wrong headed. Members of my family are autistic and do not behave like this, though there are of course differences in communication styles. This attitude is why there is still so much stigma around autism and even adhd. Do you want your ND children to go grow up and become adults in a world where this is still the case? If not I suggest you educate yourself more on neurodivergence and its many nuances and complexities.

You married a ND man which suggests at least for a while you got along well. You have a ND child. It's not impossible you're ND yourself.

staryellow · 07/01/2026 13:25

I'm sorry for what you've been through and I'm sure you don't mean to offend, but the idea that his negative qualities are 'because of his autism' is offensive and just wrong headed. Members of my family are autistic and do not behave like this, though there are of course differences in communication styles. This attitude is why there is still so much stigma around autism and even adhd. Do you want your ND children to go grow up and become adults in a world where this is still the case? If not I suggest you educate yourself more on neurodivergence and its many nuances and complexities.

You married a ND man which suggests at least for a while you got along well. You have a ND child. It's not impossible you're ND yourself. H91

staryellow · 07/01/2026 13:37

tiptoptoemaytoe · 02/01/2026 15:26

OP, I’m trained to diagnose ASD and AdHD and I unknowingly married an Autistic fucker with ADHD. The venom and bile that has been directed my way since our separation/divorce has shocked me to my very core. Some people are just grade A fuckers, neurodivergent or not but yes, their rigidity, lack of empathy, impulsivity can leave the rest of us depleted.

'an autistic fucker' That's lovely. I hope it don't work in healthcare though it sounds like you do

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/01/2026 13:41

staryellow · 07/01/2026 13:25

I'm sorry for what you've been through and I'm sure you don't mean to offend, but the idea that his negative qualities are 'because of his autism' is offensive and just wrong headed. Members of my family are autistic and do not behave like this, though there are of course differences in communication styles. This attitude is why there is still so much stigma around autism and even adhd. Do you want your ND children to go grow up and become adults in a world where this is still the case? If not I suggest you educate yourself more on neurodivergence and its many nuances and complexities.

You married a ND man which suggests at least for a while you got along well. You have a ND child. It's not impossible you're ND yourself. H91

Try reading the whole thread. This has been addressed and with a good deal more subtlety and understanding than 'if his behaviour has been damaging it's because he's an arsehole'.

LadyBlakeneysHanky · 07/01/2026 13:49

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 01/01/2026 12:43

I think the third reply nailed it. You did what you did at the time with the best intentions with the knowledge you had. My son is severly affected by his ASD. He was diagnosed at 3. Didnt talk at 7. There is no gifted or talented aspect to his autism. He will never be on a forum defending his very valid flavour of autism. No literate person gets to talk on behalf of his lived experience of autism.

But find some comfort in that he is genuinely one of the sweetest deeply caring loving people alive. He doesn't go around hugging strangers. But those he is genuinely close to he cares deeply about and says the most thoughtful things to. Not platitudes. We went past my dead parents house and he said to me "you must miss them terribly, we are all still here and love you and that's what Matters' he has the mental age of five at 14.

Also you can be a arsehole and ND. There's no mutual exclusivity. I'm sure lots of ND people are also shits like lots of NT people.

That's part of the human condition, Being a shit. It's not part of the ND.

Your son sounds beautiful. And what he said about your parents - is that really a mental age of 5? It shows such unprompted sensitivity to another’s suffering and what may assuage it. Many, many 18 year old boys, if not the vast majority of them, would be unable to have that thought, let alone put it into words. What a kind and sensitive boy.

Bramble234 · 07/01/2026 14:10

Serendipetty · 06/01/2026 17:39

I am not the OP obviously but I have contributed to this thread a fair bit so now gender has come into it I will say that my ex DP was a woman.

I had to step away from the thread for a bit. When i would try and chat with exh I used to feel like i'd gone 3 rounds in the ring with Mike Tyson and i was getting that feeling again.

I have read through your comments @Serendipetty and you really have been through the ringer. I don't know any women with autism so i cant really comment on the differences in Autism presentation, but im sure there are some as men and women are obviously different. It does sound like you were much more able to have a conversation with her about the fact you didn't like some of her behaviour, even if the end result didn't change.

I read through your post and you said therapy hadn't worked for you and I thought that it has for me. I saw my therapist this morning. I have her as i'm working through PTSD that's health related. I told her about what I had learned from all the lovely people on this thread, cassandra syndrome and how i feel much lighter now I understand things. I can finally grieve my marriage, move forward and change the relationship dynamic with exh so it is no longer upsetting to me. I have been seeing this therapist on and off for years but yet I've learnt more on this thread than i feel I have in years and years. So maybe therapy doesn't work for me either :)😄

I started this post as i feel deeply affected by my relationship, so you are not alone. I hope you got a lot of support from this chat. I wish you a happy future relationship, one that fulfills your needs completely 🤗

OP posts:
NotPerfectlyAdverage · 07/01/2026 19:14

LadyBlakeneysHanky · 07/01/2026 13:49

Your son sounds beautiful. And what he said about your parents - is that really a mental age of 5? It shows such unprompted sensitivity to another’s suffering and what may assuage it. Many, many 18 year old boys, if not the vast majority of them, would be unable to have that thought, let alone put it into words. What a kind and sensitive boy.

Thank you x he is a beautiful soul. It's very hard to say what his mental age is. No one has ever been totally frank with me. His Autism was never scored. He was put in the learning disability box at diagnosis at 3. He actually has a IQ of 120 but is still under the learning disabilities team ( they said 'don't tell me his IQ or we will discharge you') so it's just because he was diagnosed so young and non verbal for so long.

Weirdly he has never had a meltdown. Doesn't mind change. No love of routines. Not classically autistic his paediatrician said when he was 6. But still very much severly affected by his diagnosis. Decides he wants to go home in the middle of no where, walks off to go home with no money, no transport and no idea of his home address.

The thing is he sees things like the coercive control storyline on Waterloo road and could say it was wrong and why. But if he is in the situation, he doesn't see it. It's applying his knowledge of right and wrong in every situation or recognise himself and his actions. Theory of mind.

He does say things that have been so thoughtful he has made my friends cry. He thanked my friend for coming to mums funeral aged 11 saying "thank you for coming all this way to support my mum, it's means so much to us" and it came out of blue. He says what's in his head. That's not always great. He is still a 13 year old boy!

chocciechocface · 07/01/2026 19:16

staryellow · 07/01/2026 13:24

I'm sorry for what you've been through and I'm sure you don't mean to offend, but the idea that his negative qualities are 'because of his autism' is offensive and just wrong headed. Members of my family are autistic and do not behave like this, though there are of course differences in communication styles. This attitude is why there is still so much stigma around autism and even adhd. Do you want your ND children to go grow up and become adults in a world where this is still the case? If not I suggest you educate yourself more on neurodivergence and its many nuances and complexities.

You married a ND man which suggests at least for a while you got along well. You have a ND child. It's not impossible you're ND yourself.

You haven’t read the thread, have you?

chocciechocface · 07/01/2026 19:21

Bramble234 · 07/01/2026 14:10

I had to step away from the thread for a bit. When i would try and chat with exh I used to feel like i'd gone 3 rounds in the ring with Mike Tyson and i was getting that feeling again.

I have read through your comments @Serendipetty and you really have been through the ringer. I don't know any women with autism so i cant really comment on the differences in Autism presentation, but im sure there are some as men and women are obviously different. It does sound like you were much more able to have a conversation with her about the fact you didn't like some of her behaviour, even if the end result didn't change.

I read through your post and you said therapy hadn't worked for you and I thought that it has for me. I saw my therapist this morning. I have her as i'm working through PTSD that's health related. I told her about what I had learned from all the lovely people on this thread, cassandra syndrome and how i feel much lighter now I understand things. I can finally grieve my marriage, move forward and change the relationship dynamic with exh so it is no longer upsetting to me. I have been seeing this therapist on and off for years but yet I've learnt more on this thread than i feel I have in years and years. So maybe therapy doesn't work for me either :)😄

I started this post as i feel deeply affected by my relationship, so you are not alone. I hope you got a lot of support from this chat. I wish you a happy future relationship, one that fulfills your needs completely 🤗

I am so glad the thread helped. I hope with all my heart your surgery goes well and you can come home to an ex-husband free home to recuperate and thrive. I wish I could give you a hug.

Bramble234 · 07/01/2026 20:32

chocciechocface · 07/01/2026 19:21

I am so glad the thread helped. I hope with all my heart your surgery goes well and you can come home to an ex-husband free home to recuperate and thrive. I wish I could give you a hug.

Thankyou. I think you need one too, many of us on this thread do. Virtual hugs all round 🤗

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AnotherNaCha · 07/01/2026 20:46

Yes well done @Bramble234 !

I attempted repair with ex today… he just couldn’t understand that I feel things and view situations differently to him, he didn’t take any accountability and it was all on me :( it’s very sad but I’ve really tried

Bramble234 · 23/02/2026 08:51

Hi all, how are you?

I wanted to give you an update as you were all so supportive.

My surgery went well and im now recovering at home. Exh will hopefully get an exchange date for his house soon.
Exh behaviour has changed since his diagnosis. Hes become softer. Which makes it easier to parent with him.

I had a partner for 3 years after I got divorced. My therapy has made me see I have so much damage and baggage from 21 years with exh and I just wasn't ready for the new relationship. Ive apologised to my exp. Loads more work to do to be finally able to have a healthy relationship but im on my way!

Ive also put my house on the market. Time to sell the family home and get a fresh start.

I hope your all doing well x

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 08:58

I’m glad the end is in sight for you, @Bramble234 . Fresh start all round will do you good.
DH also became easier after (self) diagnosis- a combination of us having different expectations of each other, and him hearing me when I make suggestions I think. So if he’s grumpy and I point out that he’s going to the dentist tomorrow, it now interrupts the behaviour whereas before it use to inflame it. He does occasionally use it as an excuse to keep on being annoying- it’s just how I am, I can’t help it- but I’m working on the idea of choosing to challenge yourself and do better!

Serendipetty · 23/02/2026 10:07

Thank you for the update. Time to have a good life now! Keep us updated and wishing you all the luck for the future.