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Upset with my children

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shiningcuckoo · 24/12/2025 09:36

My kids are 19 - twins. They live partly with me and partly with their dad. This year for Christmas they are spending it with their dad and coming to mine for dinner on Boxing Day

A few weeks ago one of my teeth was knocked out - I work with vulnerable young people and one of my students lashed out at me. Sorting the tooth is in hand - my employer won't pay, but that's another story. A few days ago I developed toothache which has got progressively worse. It seems that the tooth was sheared off and is still there below the gum. Yesterday the pain exploded as the remains of the tooth developed a massive infection. This morning (Christmas Eve here) I had it removed and I am taking many painkillers. I've been asleep much of the day and nothing is done for Christmas. I wanted a bit of help - some tidying, cleaning up, just a bit of support - but they both claim they are too busy. I am so upset that neither could give me an hour to help even a bit. I want to communicate my disappointment but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions?

OP posts:
Katflapkit · 24/12/2025 15:02

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 24/12/2025 12:01

With the exception of the dog being walked the rest can wait. Any decent friend will accept the house not being hoovered given you are poorly.

With the same take any decent kids (legally adults) would understand and lend an hour to help their mother under such circumstances.

ilovesushi · 24/12/2025 15:09

If they are at yours today, sure they should help, but if they are round their dad's/ doing last minute shopping/ have existing plans etc etc then you can ask but you also need to accept they might have other stuff on.

lunar1 · 24/12/2025 15:11

Have they always been expected to pitch in? My sons wouldn’t need asking, nobody has ever had a jobs list, if they see something needs doing, crack on. I’m not sending two more unless men out into the world.

id be so disappointed if I was unwell and they didn’t just take over, just like I would for them. It’s not about being a kid, it’s the basics of being a family.

Cadenza12 · 24/12/2025 15:14

That's bad. Tell them to bloody well do it. Hope you're feeling better soon.

mbonfield · 24/12/2025 15:20

I am sorry to hear of your situation. At 19 they should be thinking like adults not juveniles.

I think that all can do is plead with them or get your ex to have word if possible.

Merry Christmas OP good luck

vanillalattes · 24/12/2025 15:23

I wouldn't expect my adult children to cancel their plans on Christmas Eve to help me move some boxes, walk the dog and run the vacuum around.

If you're not well enough to those things yourself (and there's no rush) then are you really well enough to be hosting tomorrow morning?

HevenlyMeS · 24/12/2025 15:25

I'm so immensely sorry to hear of your suffering & lack of support from Your Beloved Twins🫂😢🫂
God Bless You
Maybe they're both busy planning some beautiful surprises for you especially for Christmas & don't wish to risk you not having your Christmas treats in time 💚& don't realise just how much pain you're presently in
I'd be so hurt too
I'd need to express my upset & I'm praying someone here's able to gloriously guide you with some helpful wise words 🙏🫂🙏
Wishing You&Yours all the utmost very best Sincere Supreme Soul 💚

Lavender14 · 24/12/2025 15:25

I know it's not what you're asking op but I work in a similar line and I'd be very concerned that your employer isn't doing all they can to support you with this. You're in a job that has high rates of burn out which leads to high staff turnover etc. It's in their interests to look after staff who have a negative experience at work and being assaulted is a really big deal. I would be raising a complaint. The last place I worked was extremely supportive when I was assaulted and offered counselling and fully paid time off and made changes to how a few things were done. When a colleague had their car windows put in that was all covered for them. Are you in a union? If not I'd join one ASAP and get some support with this.

In terms of your kids, I don't think you're being unreasonable. I understand this time of year is busy even for younger ones who maybe have lots of social things planned. But I would point out to them both that usually you put a lot of work in behind the scenes to make sure things are nice for them at Christmas and this year you need their help and they are both big and scary enough to step up and do a couple of bits for you so you'll see them at x time for one hour and if not then you are officially on strike.

Daytimetellyqueen · 24/12/2025 15:28

Dorosomethingbeautiful · 24/12/2025 14:25

@Daytimetellyqueendont judge other people by your own standards. Some people like their homes cleaned every day and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

What a strange thing to say - My home is kept spotless (by myself & my older teen DCs), so any visitors wouldn’t require any special cleaning to be done if I wasn’t feeling great. I also don’t leave boxes lying around but if I did, then I imagine a good friend would understand why they hadn’t been tidied away.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 24/12/2025 15:31

I help my mum absolutely loads and always have. No way would she even ask me to cancel plans to hoover or move some boxes! How utterly ridiculous. Of course, if the DC were sitting on their backsides at home that would be different but if they’re busy or at their dads I think it’s cheeky to expect them to come home for this tbh.

PsychoHotSauce · 24/12/2025 15:32

KitsyWitsy · 24/12/2025 11:05

I think the problem is that kids are often brought up with absolutely everything being done for them so that when they are expected to be adult and step up, they don't have the skills and they don't even think about it.

I was brought up doing housework and helping my mother. I brought my sons up the same and my youngest (20) is so helpful. I know this won't really help you and sounds like I am showing off but it's more for the benefit of others reading this. Teach your kids to be useful and helpful as they grow up! They won't suddenly become so on their 18th birthday!

This. Even though I still hate cleaning, at 19 I'd worked out that it was important to my mum especially if people were coming over. That's why I would do this for her in this situation regardless of whether I 'wanted to' or was busy - I know my DM would be upset enough about her tooth and the house not being ready would make her feel worse.

Tiswa · 24/12/2025 15:48

What is the coparenting relationship like? This is their Dads Christmas time and even at 19 the dynamics between parents can be tricky if not even trickier than when younger

Sw33tchlliSurprise · 24/12/2025 15:53

Nothing worse than tooth ache !

However I would not hoover

Pain killers or alcohol to numb the pain

Perhaps you can ask your friend to walk the dog tomorrow

There is always KFC if you don't want to cook tomorrow

(Japan has a new tradition of KFC at xmas)

Hope you feel better soon

Bluedenimdoglover · 24/12/2025 16:10

Just take until the day after Boxing Day to recover. If they appear to find you ill in bed or on the sofa, then they may decide to muck in then. They are 19, not toddlers, look after yourself and don't be afraid to show them that mothers can be unwell too.

Pinkissmart · 24/12/2025 17:05

Nobody WANTS to tidy on Christmas Eve, but her kids are old enough to understand kindness.
sadly though, at 19 many teens are still quite selfish

LucyClayton · 24/12/2025 17:13

shiningcuckoo · 24/12/2025 09:36

My kids are 19 - twins. They live partly with me and partly with their dad. This year for Christmas they are spending it with their dad and coming to mine for dinner on Boxing Day

A few weeks ago one of my teeth was knocked out - I work with vulnerable young people and one of my students lashed out at me. Sorting the tooth is in hand - my employer won't pay, but that's another story. A few days ago I developed toothache which has got progressively worse. It seems that the tooth was sheared off and is still there below the gum. Yesterday the pain exploded as the remains of the tooth developed a massive infection. This morning (Christmas Eve here) I had it removed and I am taking many painkillers. I've been asleep much of the day and nothing is done for Christmas. I wanted a bit of help - some tidying, cleaning up, just a bit of support - but they both claim they are too busy. I am so upset that neither could give me an hour to help even a bit. I want to communicate my disappointment but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions?

Trouble is they're young lads and to them it's only a tooth.. What's up with you.. Have you not got a sister or friends that can come around just to help a bit.
Nothing worse teeth problems like yours.. Hope you get better soon..

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/12/2025 17:24

When you go back to work insist on an accident report. I'd even phone in sick today with "workplace injury, infection of tooth (sheared off my student on xxx).
Contact your trade union.
Check your house insurance for legal cover and get a claim in for your costs and the pain you've had to endure.

Your kids are hopeless, id just let them turn up and make dinner, dont worry about the mess for now.

alittleprivacy · 24/12/2025 17:29

HygerTyger · 24/12/2025 12:35

I cannot believe some of these responses. Homes don't need vacuuming and cleaning? 19 year olds should be cut some slack? what?? Apart from the whole worry of raising a generation of incompetent adults who are unfit for the whole world of adulting, there is a sick woman here who needs her family to pitch in and pull their weight. I expect my 17 year old to hoover, clean the kitchen (not perfect but she's learning) scrub the bath tub and make simple meals. These dc are treating their mother, a woman, like unpaid labour and second class citizens in her own home. So they are learning this is how women should be treated. in a family, everyone should pull their weight. A 19 year old is an adult fgs

Yeah but what are they doing? When I was 19 I was working until seven and actually pretty exhausted by the time I was done and think that I'd earned a couple of hours in the pub next-door with my workmates.

ForTipsyFinch · 24/12/2025 17:29

Cherrytree86 · 24/12/2025 12:08

Ah OP, they are your kids - let them be kids! They didn’t ask to be born!

You need to just suck it up and do all the running around and whatever needs doing to make Christmas so special for them (even if your head is dropping off with pain!)

It’s just all part and parcel of being a mum ❤️

Except they are adults not children

Ohnobackagain · 24/12/2025 17:32

TomatoSandwiches · 24/12/2025 11:57

Perhaps send a text that is very clear.

I know it is Xmas eve but I'm struggling with the pain in my mouth/face and not feeling great, I would really appreciate it is you could both come and help move some boxes into the garage and vacuum the house so I'm not embarrassed tomorrow with my guest tomorrow.

@shiningcuckoo they’re adults. Even if they were younger they could still help. I’d do something like this …

FunCrab · 24/12/2025 21:40

shiningcuckoo · 24/12/2025 09:36

My kids are 19 - twins. They live partly with me and partly with their dad. This year for Christmas they are spending it with their dad and coming to mine for dinner on Boxing Day

A few weeks ago one of my teeth was knocked out - I work with vulnerable young people and one of my students lashed out at me. Sorting the tooth is in hand - my employer won't pay, but that's another story. A few days ago I developed toothache which has got progressively worse. It seems that the tooth was sheared off and is still there below the gum. Yesterday the pain exploded as the remains of the tooth developed a massive infection. This morning (Christmas Eve here) I had it removed and I am taking many painkillers. I've been asleep much of the day and nothing is done for Christmas. I wanted a bit of help - some tidying, cleaning up, just a bit of support - but they both claim they are too busy. I am so upset that neither could give me an hour to help even a bit. I want to communicate my disappointment but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions?

You need to ensure this is recorded as an incident in the workplace. There should be an accident book. This needs to be done as a matter of urgency.
The employer may deny it happened on their premises.
If you are in a union please seek advice.
If you are not please go to citizens advice and they may be able to guide you.
In any case there are not safe systems of work so this does not happen. What safeguards have been put in place to ensure this does not happen again?

CheeseyOnionPie · 24/12/2025 21:51

Livpool · 24/12/2025 11:23

Agreed - 19 year olds don’t want to be tidying and cleaning on Christmas Eve! I am 45 and don’t want to either. It’s probably also because they are at their dad’s I assume? So they aren’t there to see what needs doing. I can understand your frustration but I would cut them some slack

So what if they don’t want to? You don’t always get what you want, that’s part of being an adult member of the family. At 19 it wouldn’t kill them to spend an hour helping their mum out when she’s in agony. They’re grown enough.

Mamagin · 24/12/2025 22:13

Cherrytree86 · 24/12/2025 12:08

Ah OP, they are your kids - let them be kids! They didn’t ask to be born!

You need to just suck it up and do all the running around and whatever needs doing to make Christmas so special for them (even if your head is dropping off with pain!)

It’s just all part and parcel of being a mum ❤️

Kids?! They're adults, old enough to work, marry and have their own children, let alone a bit of empathy and care for their mother. Have a great lunch with your friend, OP, I'd be tempted to go to your friend's house for boxing day lunch and let your twins fend for themselves.

HevenlyMeS · 24/12/2025 22:46

Bluedenimdoglover · 24/12/2025 16:10

Just take until the day after Boxing Day to recover. If they appear to find you ill in bed or on the sofa, then they may decide to muck in then. They are 19, not toddlers, look after yourself and don't be afraid to show them that mothers can be unwell too.

Edited

Yes so true, us Mums are only human too💚

Pinkissmart · 25/12/2025 01:17

ForCoralScroller · 24/12/2025 14:09

You've had a tooth out, come on..man up

I think OP is a woman?