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Husband threatening to leave

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LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
ThisAutumnTown · 20/12/2025 09:02

You have every right to not want or need sex.
He has every right to leave and find a sexual relationship.
You’re not well matched in that sense and that’s nobody’s fault but you both need to do what makes you happy and if that means him leaving, so be it.

About his birthday, that’s absolutely awful. No wonder he feels like you don’t care about him. It sounds like he makes a lot of effort with you but it’s not reciprocated.
I hope he finds someone who appreciates him.

Kpo58 · 20/12/2025 09:04

@LatteLady84 Are you neuro typical? I'm getting the feeling that you might not be and that can be a reason on why it's so hard to relax and get into the mood for sex. It sounds like you are mentally overwhelmed with everyday life and all the things that need to be done that it's then really hard to mentally relax without thinking that sex is another chore to add to the list.

Baahbaahmutton · 20/12/2025 09:05

This is so sad.

Srx actually imho isn't even THE problem.
I don't know if he loves you but I believe you don't love him. You both just somehow stuck with first relationship (and nothing personal, genuinely just observation if I understood right, but you both started dated later as well so that might have something with it too) because it was comfortable/known but sorry it just sounds like "well he is here so why not". He probably did similar by the sound of it. Or maybe he did love you but from your posts I never got that you do really love him.
And then you all just... Lived in that.

It seems death by thousand cuts in this case for him. And you are just... So passive like you had no role in it. Like that's normal life being rejected and forgotten.
It's not. It breaks people.

I am absolutely not saying you should have sex you don't want, but that you two should call it quits. You both still have time to find some excitement in life.

Ginmonkeyagain · 20/12/2025 09:10

It sounds like you both settled too early in life and have no experience outside of each other for how a relationship should be.

Sex isn't isn't everything but it is fundamentally the glue that holds long term relationships together. Your poor husband has been stuck in pretty much a sexless marriage from day one and you don't seem to to have noticed or care.

I think you have to let each other go.

researchers3 · 20/12/2025 09:12

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:26

I know I messed up with his present. I understand that. I did apologise to him.

But that's not enough! What are you going to do? You seem completely blind to how your behaviour is making him feel.

He sounds lovely. If this situation was reversed, everyone would be saying LTB.

He deserves sex. Once a month isn't that regular, and certainly not at the start of a relationship. I think you should let him go.

FairyMaclary · 20/12/2025 09:19

Follow the exercises in this book together.

https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Principles-Making-Marriage-Work/dp/0553447718?tag=ustxtadsp-20

Then read another book and do the dates (you can even do this at home, only a little effort is required but if I were you I’d go all out with the effort when it’s your turn - Gottman - 8 Dates

Best relationship books out there in my opinion.

I think you will know very quickly if you can salvage this while doing these books together.

I hope you both find peace and happiness.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 20/12/2025 09:19

Newsenmum · 20/12/2025 08:12

I dont normally have this reaction, but I actually feel sorry for him. I think it’s important you talk about the sex properly and not just shut down. Youre both adults - why cant you talk about it? And the 40th birthday thing is so sad. I can’t believe you didnt organise it! 😭

My ex husband did the same to me for my 30th. Promised me a holiday then never organised it. Spent the money on a car instead. It definitely contributed to me leaving as it was a pattern of behaviour where I just felt taken for granted.

We were each other’s first relationship too and he was complacent.
I’ve heard he treats his new wife better so perhaps he learned a lesson.

I see a lot of similarities here in how OP is with her husband.

Sexyin2026 · 20/12/2025 09:23

13 pages ago since the Op posted. Not sure she will be back.

justasking111 · 20/12/2025 09:23

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 20/12/2025 09:19

My ex husband did the same to me for my 30th. Promised me a holiday then never organised it. Spent the money on a car instead. It definitely contributed to me leaving as it was a pattern of behaviour where I just felt taken for granted.

We were each other’s first relationship too and he was complacent.
I’ve heard he treats his new wife better so perhaps he learned a lesson.

I see a lot of similarities here in how OP is with her husband.

Maybe if you get together very young you haven't had the knocks of failed relationships and learnt by them.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 20/12/2025 09:30

justasking111 · 20/12/2025 09:23

Maybe if you get together very young you haven't had the knocks of failed relationships and learnt by them.

I absolutely agree with this. We hadn’t learned to be in a relationship. His friends were all the same so he felt his behaviour was normal.
I had a much wider friendship group so saw how different relationships worked and realised I wanted more!

bananafake · 20/12/2025 09:33

researchers3 · 20/12/2025 09:12

But that's not enough! What are you going to do? You seem completely blind to how your behaviour is making him feel.

He sounds lovely. If this situation was reversed, everyone would be saying LTB.

He deserves sex. Once a month isn't that regular, and certainly not at the start of a relationship. I think you should let him go.

Why are you pulling the ‘if the genders were reversed card’ when people are almost universally saying the OP is unreasonable and many posters are saying he should leave her? Do we have to have this nonsense on every single thread when most people aren’t being sexist, they’re responding to the thread based on what’s happening, not on what gender the OP is. This thread absolutely proves it.

If it was started by a MRA trying to wind us up he’d be very disappointed.

DivaORJustified · 20/12/2025 09:40

@LatteLady84 do you plan to have a proper talk work your husband this weekend? If I was you I’d get the kids baby sat for a few hours - go get a coffee and walk and talk. Show him he matters.

Raintoday2323 · 20/12/2025 09:40

You need to leave.
I understand what its like to be exhausted and not want sex but you both have to communicate with each other.
I found the touching from husband made me clam up too but we spoke about it and he stopped however that meant I had to make an effort too.
This was years ago when the kids were little. Don't get me wrong were not doing it every night but I make sure its at least once at the weekend and that work for both of us, now years later we both instigate. And we are touchy and loving with each other.
Im not sure I can suggest anything about missing the 40th birthday. My husband was 40 this year and we were moving house so we had limited funds but I still bought little gifts that reflected him.
You need to book a weekend away ASAP if you want to repair this.
I was 16 when I started going out with my husband and its now 18 years later so similar situation OP.
If you can't make an effort with him in any way then its time to end it.
Sometimes relationships dip and dive but yours seems to have never had a up.

Akela64 · 20/12/2025 09:44

You need to ask yourself if you have any love and care for your husband of many years.

To me you are simply co-workers and you decided to write emotional support out of your job description without consultation.

What are you going to do?

He is deeply unhappy, with no self esteem and he has suffered serious harm.

You will have to find the space and energy to find an answer. Saying it's hard and I'm tired is simply just not good enough. Your co-worker has handed you his notice.

Ginmonkeyagain · 20/12/2025 09:48

One thing that stood out for me is you said you felt your sex life picked up after you got engaged as you felt "safe and secure". I think that is worth exploring. Why have you not felt safe and secure at other times to have sex with a man you are in a long term committed relationship with? Is safety and security necessary for you to feel like having sex (no criticism - we all have our own feelings and attitudes towards sex).

ParmaVioletTea · 20/12/2025 09:48

Lots of people have children and work full-time and still manage to want to have sex with their partner.

You need to want to have sex with your DH or you need to find a way that he’s happy. Of course, you could set him free to find someone who loves him but that’s really cruel - to separate him from his children.

You’ve got some really serious thinking to do.

Gremlins101 · 20/12/2025 09:51

Hi OP, I clicked on your post title expecting to hate your husband but I read it and honestly I do think he's given this a lot of effort and time and love.

I have to say I dont think my husband would survive a month without sex. After a week he is climbing the walls. His sex drive is much higher than mine but I also love him and I value our marriage. I read something once where it said if there is even the faintest glimmer of desire in you, then embrace it and go with it. Its worked for us because we meet in the middle. Its not 10 times a week like he'd probably like, but its regular. And he's a happier, calmer person, and we feel closer. Its also taught me to recognise when I dont want to, compared to when im just feeling a bit lazy but could get going.

Like others have said i think the birthday thing is very sad. Can you make it up to him with a weekend away, and absolutely jump him while you are there?

Leopardspota · 20/12/2025 09:51

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 17:56

Its been hard to keep up with the flow of posts but thanks everyone for comments. I get that I haven't handled things well. I really do love my husband very much, and we do enjoy our time together. We have nice days out with our children, we have evenings out as a couple and with friends. So we do have good time together.

To explain a couple of points people have asked, I am definitely not gay, and we are each others only ever partners. We were 18 when we got together, 19 when we first had sex and perhaps both of our understandings of a normal relationship have been restricted by our lack of experience outside of our own relationship. I don't think either of us really thought we had met the person we would marry at 18, but we got together and stayed together, and I think it has mostly been happy.

On sex itself, I do have a low drive, I recognise that. But it's also true that I am tired a lot, I tend to be early to bed anyway, so if we got out for example, by the time we get home I am really tired and sex just isn't on my mind. Maybe I have portrayed myself badly from what I have said but I am not a bad person I promise, and I do really want to fix things. I understand the first step is to make more effort and try to change myself, and let him know how much I love him.

I know everyone says ‘don’t have sex if you don’t want to’ but it sounds like you could
make an effort to get in the mood. A lot of women get into it once it’s initiated, maybe you could arrange a day to go to bed early with husband and just try kissing etc to see if it makes you feel like going further. More than anything you need to reconnect. A weekend away is exactly what you need.

i Also have young kids and generally feel indifferent to sex, but I know my husband want to, so regularly I make sure to make an effort, once we start I do enjoy it, it’s just before hand I’m indifferent, it feels like another job (one I don’t hate…) like taking a shower or putting the tea on. But my husband looks after me in ways I like to be looked after - he takes me to dinner, he’ll pour me a wine or make me a tea, he’s also a really 50/50 parent as well as the main earner.

LHP118 · 20/12/2025 09:54

You are supposed to be in a relationship. It means there's communication, teamwork and genuine love and caring for each other to build and sustain that. You're looking at your needs, but not acknowledging or considering his. At the very least, there needs to be communication (2-way, rather than just you-way) and if you still feel 'pressured' by just talking ...a counsellor.

It seems he's made a concerted effort to respect you...at his own expense. His mental health has deteriorated as a result. And you seem to have made a concerted effort to respect..... only you. It feels like you don't love or respect him, and the final nail? The broken promises and the lack of visible love, care, devotion on his 40th.

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 20/12/2025 09:57

kavalkada · 20/12/2025 08:09

I am in a similar situation to the OP’s husband, with some modifications. I have a husband who occasionally remembers to buy me a birthday present. There has been no sex at all for the past 7 years, but there wasn’t much before either, except when we were trying to have a child. I don’t think he is to blame. I have gained a disgusting amount of weight and I don’t even like looking at myself in the mirror, so I don’t blame someone else for not being able to look at me either.

Honestly, I cried so much reading this thread because I know exactly how her husband feels – and even worse. My husband is a good father, but whether he even likes me as a person, I think he doesn’t. It’s hard for me to imagine that you like someone very much if you don’t want to do anything nice for them and show them every day that you don’t really care.

I don’t know. For quite some time now I’ve realized that, because of my parents, I had a completely wrong idea of what a good marriage is. I had fatjer who was a gambler, my parents hated each other and my mother was yelling all day long. I had a mother who constantly beat me for the smallest things (I tear a sheet of paper from a notebook – beating; I drop a cup – 20 hits; I say something wrong – kneel in the corner on bare knees on salt, and so on for years). I was the only child in the house who was treated like that; she behaved better with my brother so it is not like she couldn't be gentle, but she chose not to.

When I met my current husband, he was kind, gentle, quiet – everything opposite to the chaos I grew up in, and which I now know I ran away from. I should have started my own thread. I’m sorry I’m writing all this here, but I wanted to say that I am now thinking about many things I never did before.

It’s not that I care whether I will ever find someone who will love me. I thought that part of life was already over for me. In all of this, I ask myself why my husband stays with me, and I think the author of the original post should ask herself the same question.

Maybe not all of us will be happy. Maybe it’s not written for everyone. But I think everyone deserves peace, and peace is not being day after day with a person who makes you feel disrespected, even though they constantly say otherwise.

And this “I’m sorry” – where are those people who think one “sorry” can erase decades of pain? As far as I’m concerned, I feel numb, if that’s the right word – English is not my first language. I feel like I go through the days like a robot and that I’ll continue like that until the end of my life. The little happiness I feel is when I get on a plane and go somewhere else for a few days, where things are different. Otherwise, the days pass as if I were a robot.

So sorry to read this. Sending virtual hugs and a handhold. Hope you can get some therapy to unpick your childhood trauma and learn to think better of yourself and and expect better too.

FollowSpot · 20/12/2025 09:58

OP, the mantra is ‘you don’t have to have sex if you don’t want to’ which is of course true.

But the other truth is that sex is generally part of a healthy loving relationship, it refuels all sorts of things, individually any as a couple.

So putting energy and focus into why you ‘haven’t felt relaxed enough’ may help. Is it a hormonal imbalance that has given you loss of libido? Some psychological or emotional block? I’m not saying there’s something’’wrong’ with you but you are not enjoying something which you say you do enjoy when it happens.

If you liked food but couldn’t bring yourself to eat you would seek help…

I think most of us are familiar to some extent with the dynamic of feeling pressured for sex if we want a cuddle. But IME ‘sex free’ cuddles are more likely when the sex bit is functioning in its own right. Obviously there are often mismatches, women feeling up and down, high sex drive men etc. But your poor DH simply gave up on sex and you felt better do didn’t stop to think how he felt.

If you want to try and save your marriage you are going to have to really lean in. Yes, find time amongst the kids etc to go to counselling, talk to your GP, do individual and couples counselling.

Sounds a lot of work? And expense?

Not compared to splitting up and all that entails and bring a single parent except for contact time.

I would say: go for it. Really go for it.

Higgledypiggledy864 · 20/12/2025 10:03

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

Can I suggest couples therapy and possibly you seeing a therapist on your own?
If you really do love each other, there will be a way round this but you might need a bit of support.
I also do understand the dynamic of a someone only being caring when there is a hope that it leads to sex - it's a real turn off and makes you reject those attempts and can lead to underlying resentment.
That said not having sex in three years is extreme and your husband has been extremely understanding - you possibly sound a little depressed.

Optimist2020 · 20/12/2025 10:05

If you split with your DH, do you think you’ll be able to find an asexual man to date in their 40s @LatteLady84 .

LHP118 · 20/12/2025 10:08

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

My OH is a hugger, but I know when it's a step above hugging that it'll lead to sex. That's the way men (I can only speak only for my OH) are apparently wired. I'm happy with no sex (like ever), but also aware of his needs and his feeling of being wanted, loved and desired. We've talked about it....even if it's to say we don't know but we'll take it a step at a time. We've talked about love, and we both do things to surprise and show we care...inspite of the children, work, stress, illness.

Life is too short to leave things unsaid...and he sounds like a good man. Sometimes, we take things for granted....until we're at risk of loss

Nanny0gg · 20/12/2025 10:43

If the OP is that tired all the time, she needs to see a doctor