My partner, magic mushrooms and our holiday

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My partner micro doses magic mushrooms daily for mental health reasons (depression). I don’t have an issue with this.
however we are planning our first holiday. Nothing is booked yet but they have said they are planning to take some mushrooms for use there which makes sense but it hadn’t crossed my mind.
im not comfortable travelling with someone who is carrying something illegal. I don’t want to be implicated or get into trouble. I would lose my job.
my partner understands to a point but says this is not what the airport security are looking for and they won’t get caught.
I agree the risk is low however that’s not the point. They are asking me to take a big risk, and even if we don’t get caught I will be super stressed in the run up to the flight, during and whilst waiting for the case.
my partner is playing down the risk but this is not something I’m willing to compromise on.
I know my partner has travelled with friends when carrying these drugs in their bag and the friends have not had an issue with it.
does anyone have any advice Please .

Wait till they hear about poppies. That will blow their fucking mind.

Your partner is being a fool. As are you. He is using a Class A drug. As you know this so he has involved you. The police would be interested.

Do not travel with him. Do not let him pack anything in your luggage.
Do not have anything to do with him would be my advice. And report him.

@simplesimoneatspie- I'm not nieve I just have a different experience of mushrooms. They're fairly mainstream and easy to get hold of.

The lack of knowledge of basic pharmacology and chemistry is astounding.

1. EVERYTHING is made up from chemicals. The chair you sit on the food you eat every flake of skin.
2. many many many medicinal drugs come from plants and nature. Aspirin, atropine, colchicine, quinine, morphine all come from plants
3. mushrooms and lsd were widely studied during the 60s and 70s but studies and use of it were banned due to the growing hysteria around any sort of recreational drugs use

EVERYTHING is made up from chemicals

Well, to go down a turtle further, everything is wavey particles. Protons, electrons, neutrons, photons.

There’s whole documentaries on Netflix, also in popular books/ tv shows? That one starring Nicole Kidman ‘9 perfect strangers’. Even prince harry talks openly about it…

Many research studies to show the active ingredient in magic mushroom - psylocybin - help with depression.

Below is a podcast by a Standford Professor that goes into huge detail. don’t think he microdoses himself. I don’t but did take them once as a student.

I have nothing against magic mushrooms or microdosing, I've done it myself and it did wonders for my depression, this said your partnet should NOT put you in said position if he cares about you, totally unfair on his part. If he was travelling alone then fine but if he's travelling with you then he's going to have to take a one week break from microdosing, and yes... he will survive, specially if he's on holiday and having a happy time. I would have him choose: it's you or the shrooms, can't have his cake and eat it too.

It doesn't matter if microdoses of psilocybin in mushrooms are physically risk-free or not. Maybe microdosing that species of mushroom is far better than any legal anti-depressant ever developed; it's still madness to pack mushrooms for personal use to cross a national border.

Go on holiday to a country where it's legal to buy magic mushroom biscuits or whatever, and buy them at the destination. And no, do not try to bring any back to the UK.

I haven’t read the whole thread so not sure if someone’s already said this, but there are some legal mushrooms available that (while they don’t contain the same psychoactive element as magic mushrooms) have effects that some find positive. For example Lionsmane and cordeceps mushroom. Could he use those for his holiday instead?

Many research studies to show the active ingredient in magic mushroom - psylocybin - help with depression.

I was always curious by the suggestion (this must have been early 90s) that a single dose was all that was needed. My curiousity was piqued by a friend who used cannabis for their MS and noted that the pain relief (which they were treating) occurred well before the high. Meaning whatever is working is not the psychoactive part, per se. This was well before CBD was a thing. There are hundreds of different compounds involved, so it is real science.

I've taken both magic mushrooms and lionsmane, this one is not a psychedelic by any means, fact is it gave me a terrible migraine, it's also used for cooking and as a supplement and doesn't make you trip hence the reason it's not classed as a drug.

Where do you get them ?

I think you should expect to be caught. Interestingly, coming back into Gatwick last spring at midnight the sniffer dogs were out in training exercises. Whilst waiting for our cases a handler asked me to participate and put a stash of cannabis in my pocket which was detected quite quickly (by a lovely spaniel). She said the dogs are trained to detect all sorts of things- even bank notes-so don't assume you can get away with anything. She then gave me a document to get through security/customs so I didn't get stopped and checked!

Turkey tail and cordyceps have just been withdrawn in the UK, so if anyone feels strongly about that, there's a petition and fundraiser.

I’d be dumping my partner and planning a solo trip.

At uni in my early twenties I had a boyfriend who smoked weed and claimed it helped with depression. At first, it didn’t interfere with our life or relationship as he did it predominantly with housemates. I was and still am a non-smoker!

However we went on holiday and it was clear that not having access to weed massively impacted on his mood and the holiday revolved around him trying to gain access to weed rather than enjoying a new country and new cultural experiences. I dumped him and promised myself I wouldn’t ever get into another relationship with someone who required substances (legal or otherwise) to function.

I assume you don’t know anything about micro dosing

She said the dogs are trained to detect all sorts of things- even bank notes-

People say a lot of things. A quick while-the-kettle-is-boiling mental exercise, using official data, suggests that it's more about the theatre than the practice. (And no, I am not saying that dogs cannot be used to track scent)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_currency

Honestly, fly separately - if when he gets pulled you’ll at least not be implicated.

And for those extolling the virtues of microdosing, there is a very fine but blurred line where microdosing slips into something else. I’ve never known anyone successfully keep it as a microdose and it has come back and bitten them hard because a Class A is still a Class A whether you agree with it being so or not.

It’s one of the safest substances. Listen to Chris VT on what’s up docs. Hardly niche.

There are different rules for different countries so it does depend on where you're going but, that would be a "hard no" for me.
If you were absolutely insistent on carrying this product which might be illegal where you're going or illegal to cross the border with, and you really still wanted to do this trip, I would have to consider traveling separately which probably would not be feasible financially or emotionally in the relationship but, you may not have a choice. Or, the other choice is being you don't cross international borders with a illicit substance on your person, or, you do your vacation within your own country.

You know people, plural, where microdosing was a gateway?

The dog took longer to detect "my" drugs because he kept going up to a man and standing by him. The officer had approached him and discovered he had money in his pocket and the dog would not be distracted from him . She wasn't making it up.

I wonder what the LD50 is ?

(checks)

(Estimated) >1 kg of dried mushrooms (1000x standard dose)

"Estimated" - meaning they don't actually know, but guessed.

I use mushrooms occasionally. I enjoy them. I don't think they're a gateway drug.

I would not ever, EVER, take mushrooms through an airport (or ferry terminal etc) or agree to travel with someone I knew was carrying them through an airport. They're a class A drug in this country. It would be utterly stupid to do this.