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Husband has left, Emotional Affair with Colleague, Can I save this?

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BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

OP posts:
BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 22:49

Bloozie · 04/12/2025 14:20

Ah, you will.

And you'll enjoy that exquisite moment before the first kiss, when he's a foot away but you can feel the air between you tickling your nose and cheeks, and your lips twitch with a smile, and your toes scrunch up. First kisses are magical.

And you'll wake up next to him the next morning and open the curtains, and every word to Elbow's One Day will soar through your mind, because the world will be alive with possibility, and it might all go to shit, but possibility feels glorious.

There is so much good stuff ahead. Just get through the nuts and bolts of this, for now.

Thank you.That has reminded me of things gone by that involve romance, that I haven't experienced in such a long time. I love that song too :)

OP posts:
UpDownAllAround1 · 04/12/2025 22:52

Sounds like you had plenty of warning signs over the years. Sorry but this is over

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 23:12

Thanks everyone who has replied and given fantastic advice.
I woke up today feeling absolutely desperate but I am going to bed tonight feeling more rage towards him and accepting the reality he has gone.
I am working on a job application tomorrow for a full time job,
I told my brother who has told my other siblings, one of them is coming tomorrow. I have told a few more tomorrow.
Feeling more positive xxx

OP posts:
AnonAnonmystery · 04/12/2025 23:14

See how a day can make a difference? I’m so glad you are feeling better. You’ve received some fantastic support on here and I’m glad in real life it’s coming too! Will make such a difference. Sending you a virtual hand hold 🥲

TicTac80 · 05/12/2025 06:52

I’m so glad that you ended the day feeling less scared and alone. I know this is just a forum, but keep checking back here and venting/putting down your thoughts. Along with your friends and family, we can be your sounding board. Anything that helps you is good, anything that saves you rage-texting the ex is also good!!

really hope that you managed to eat/sleep a bit better. Remember that this guy is not worth you wrecking your health over. Take each minute/day/week as it comes, and you’ll get there. You got this and we’ve got your back x

LizzieSiddal · 05/12/2025 08:31

Glad you’ve got real life support.x

VividZebra · 05/12/2025 11:09

You will feel so much better with some family support around you. Good for you for applying for a job, but one piece of advice my solicitor gave me was to hold off on that, because if you're not working full time (and your kids are young enough for this to be totally understandable), courts will award spousal maintenance. Paying you maintenance, supporting the kids and maintaining la-la land will be a total kick in the teeth for him, one he deserves.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 05/12/2025 12:00

Onwards OP!
My husband walked out on me three months ago.
Just left.
No OW. No OM even.
Just didn't want to be with me anymore.
He lives fifteen miles and another lifetime away now.

And I'm fine! Angry with him, but fine.

And you will be too @BarnabyRocks
Sort out the finances and don't let your husband shaft you.

You must decide what is best for your children. Mine are all grown up now. They go and see my ex. He is 100% on his own.

But be strong @BarnabyRocks
You'll be fine, I promise.

EdgyCrab · 05/12/2025 13:02

Hey OP

Tho I agree with what others have said about the relationship sounding not that great to date, have you actually told him you want to save the relationship? And would you want to save the relationship if he has done anything physical with this woman? And are you actually committed to improving the relationship and what is your plan for that, cos there seems little point in going back to the way things were. If you've not said explicitly you want to get back together, I would be inclined to, just so there is no misunderstanding and you've given it a shot. But do you want him back or are you just freaked out he's getting with someone else??

ohyesido · 05/12/2025 13:09

To put it bluntly, he seems to want an opportunity to have sex with this woman without guilt. Once he has had his fun, he will expect to return to his marriage.

I’ve seen it happen before with my SIL and her DH. He told her that he wanted a break, but what he really wanted was a free pass to sleep with another woman and go back home when he was ready.

BarnabyRocks · 05/12/2025 13:44

Hi all,
just an update. Terrible nights sleep, I dreamt at some point that I saw the OW and she condescendingly told me they had been going out with him for 2 years. I then beat her violently to a pulp, possibly to death.
He's here now, moving stuff out, he's got a rental. Telling me how it's so small he can't possibly take all of his stuff. I have told him I will be slowly bagging stuff up and every time he comes, he can take a bag, I do not care how small his place is, I am not going to be used as a free storage facility. I am grey rocking as best as I can.

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 05/12/2025 13:57

Sounds like you've come on several miles already.

BeaRightThere · 05/12/2025 14:02

EdgyCrab · 05/12/2025 13:02

Hey OP

Tho I agree with what others have said about the relationship sounding not that great to date, have you actually told him you want to save the relationship? And would you want to save the relationship if he has done anything physical with this woman? And are you actually committed to improving the relationship and what is your plan for that, cos there seems little point in going back to the way things were. If you've not said explicitly you want to get back together, I would be inclined to, just so there is no misunderstanding and you've given it a shot. But do you want him back or are you just freaked out he's getting with someone else??

This post gets right to heart of things here. The OP admits her marriage was terrible but it seems she resents her husband choosing to walk away. It's unclear what she really wants: is it to save her marriage and put in all the work that would mean, or does she just not want him to be happy with someone else?

OP I really think you should consider this. Do you want your husband back because you love him and you want the marriage to work? Or are you just afraid of being alone?

BuckChuckets · 05/12/2025 14:10

BarnabyRocks · 05/12/2025 13:44

Hi all,
just an update. Terrible nights sleep, I dreamt at some point that I saw the OW and she condescendingly told me they had been going out with him for 2 years. I then beat her violently to a pulp, possibly to death.
He's here now, moving stuff out, he's got a rental. Telling me how it's so small he can't possibly take all of his stuff. I have told him I will be slowly bagging stuff up and every time he comes, he can take a bag, I do not care how small his place is, I am not going to be used as a free storage facility. I am grey rocking as best as I can.

"Possibly to death" 😂

You're doing amazingly, keep grey rocking and keep making him take his stuff. Literally not your problem how small his new place is.

Thewookiemustgo · 05/12/2025 14:12

I would be bagging it all up and leaving it at the end of the drive. He wants out, he can get out and take all his crap with him. Really not your problem. You sound like you are doing really well, grey rock the heck out of it all and although I’d probably amuse myself with the dream scenario running in a loop in my head, the best revenge is a life well lived, so keep moving forward one step at a time, he’s not going to like you handling this well at all. But don’t make it easy for him, he can squish all his stuff in his new tiny hovel or it’s going to get very damp outside.

BruFord · 05/12/2025 14:24

I’ve only read your updates, PP. I’m glad that you’re finding your anger and grey rocking him, he isn’t your friend anymore.

Has he mentioned custody again? Remember that you need to fight for what suits you and your children best, not what suits him. Also, your children being 8 & 10 means that whatever’s agreed to, it’s only binding for a few years -once they’re 16, the courts won’t enforce the order.

cosmicbabe · 05/12/2025 14:38

BarnabyRocks · 05/12/2025 13:44

Hi all,
just an update. Terrible nights sleep, I dreamt at some point that I saw the OW and she condescendingly told me they had been going out with him for 2 years. I then beat her violently to a pulp, possibly to death.
He's here now, moving stuff out, he's got a rental. Telling me how it's so small he can't possibly take all of his stuff. I have told him I will be slowly bagging stuff up and every time he comes, he can take a bag, I do not care how small his place is, I am not going to be used as a free storage facility. I am grey rocking as best as I can.

Well done OP. Thinking of you xx

Hermyknee · 05/12/2025 14:42

I bet the cost/benefit analysis he has in his head is starting to reveal itself..

Silverbirchleaf · 05/12/2025 14:44

@BarnabyRocks i can see in every post you are getting stronger and stronger, and taking control of the situation, so big gold star to you. There’s bound to be moments of panic and emotion, but you’re on the upwards trajectory.⭐️

Franklyannoyed · 05/12/2025 14:46

BarnabyRocks · 05/12/2025 13:44

Hi all,
just an update. Terrible nights sleep, I dreamt at some point that I saw the OW and she condescendingly told me they had been going out with him for 2 years. I then beat her violently to a pulp, possibly to death.
He's here now, moving stuff out, he's got a rental. Telling me how it's so small he can't possibly take all of his stuff. I have told him I will be slowly bagging stuff up and every time he comes, he can take a bag, I do not care how small his place is, I am not going to be used as a free storage facility. I am grey rocking as best as I can.

Tell him to store it at his girlfriends if he’s got an issue.

I understand it’s just a dream, but do remember your marriage was very unhappy, for both of you, not just him. This woman is fairly irrelevant, this day was always going to come, limping on desperately unhappy does no one any good. Don’t let the posters on here make it about the “other woman” to such an extent you forget the reality of it,

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 05/12/2025 14:53

@BarnabyRocks mine only left three months ago.

I put everything into black sacks and made him take it.

I gave lots of his stuff to the village charity shop. If he wants his books he'll have to buy them back.

Don't let your husband have it all his own way. This is your house now, and your life. Take control.

BarnabyRocks · 05/12/2025 14:55

BeaRightThere · 05/12/2025 14:02

This post gets right to heart of things here. The OP admits her marriage was terrible but it seems she resents her husband choosing to walk away. It's unclear what she really wants: is it to save her marriage and put in all the work that would mean, or does she just not want him to be happy with someone else?

OP I really think you should consider this. Do you want your husband back because you love him and you want the marriage to work? Or are you just afraid of being alone?

I wanted to save my marriage, I wanted it to work for both of us and the kids. I wanted him to stay so we could try to fix us. I have tried and tried over the years, asking for help, explaining how i was feeling, explaining how I was feeling overwhelmed and could he help share more of the load. This would be met with dismissal and defensiveness, arguments but no repair. I have said to him quite a few times that these incident were leaving me with scars and did he understand how damaging this was to our long term relations. I would get very little to nothing in response. He would roll his eyes and walk away from emotional, difficult discussions, and as time went on, I did too, to protect myself and just get on with it. I got my head down and carried on, with hope it would get better as the kids got older. I do resent that he is walking away without having tried to address our relationship. I want him to be happy and I want me to be happy.
I have just asked him now, does he feel like he and WE have tried everything that we can do try to salvage the relationship, and he said no. I asked him why he jumped from feeling like he was at the end of his tether to just deciding, without ever sitting me down and saying it needs to get better or he's going and he said he's doesn't know why he did that, it just came out. I think, honestly, that the subterfuge going on, him pretending that the OW is not the catalyst for his sudden decision to just go without discussion, is what is upsetting me the most.I feel like there is a bit gap in the decision and it's his refusal to admit this that's making it harder. He won't admit that, he's just said they haven't even kissed. I am a very loyal and honest person, and that is what is hurting me the most. Hence why I probably had that dream last night about beating the OW to a pulp. Coincidentally, my brother told me this morning that he had a dream last night that he beat my husband to a pulp, so we are clearly aligned in our subconscious violent tendencies, must be a family thing.
I am accepting my part in this in not laying it out clearly enough or often enough, that I too was unhappy and didn't like how we communicated.
I am starting counselling in a week's time, I know I need to work on myself.
I am very grateful for all of your replies, uncomfortable reading or not.
I know it is over. I am hurting for me and my kids, my heart is broken.

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 05/12/2025 14:56

If the other woman was as good as irrelevant the timing sure is convenient.

Glad you’ve told your family Op.
He needs to take responsibility for his stuff. It will be confusing for everyone if he wants to be coming and going with things.

BeaRightThere · 05/12/2025 14:57

Franklyannoyed · 05/12/2025 14:46

Tell him to store it at his girlfriends if he’s got an issue.

I understand it’s just a dream, but do remember your marriage was very unhappy, for both of you, not just him. This woman is fairly irrelevant, this day was always going to come, limping on desperately unhappy does no one any good. Don’t let the posters on here make it about the “other woman” to such an extent you forget the reality of it,

Fully agreed. I think the infidelity is a red herring here. This was a deeply unhappy marriage for both sides. I don't think encouraging the OP to find her rage and turn her husband into a villain is helpful. Neither of them were happy. Hopefully it's possible for them to be civil and eventually form an amicable co-parenting partnership.

Silverbirchleaf · 05/12/2025 15:01

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