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Discovered something awful that my dead father did, should I share with my family?

227 replies

Black51 · 31/10/2025 18:50

My elderly father died earlier this year. I have since discovered some official letters in his desk saying that when he was a young teacher he was banned from teaching due to sexually abusing some of his male pupils (in the 1950's). I have taken the paperwork away. Please let me know whether I should share this information with my mum and brothers, destroy the paperwork, or keep it private. I don't know what the best thing is to do here.

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TheQuirkyMaker · 31/10/2025 21:03

Bobiverse · 31/10/2025 18:56

Do any of your siblings have children? I would want to know if I had kids, so I could make sure he never did anything to them.

I’m really sorry, I know he was your dad and this must be awful for you, but abusers are always abusers. They don’t just stop or change, especially if he didn’t have intensive therapy.

I know everyone says it won’t help anyone and just keep it quiet, but I couldn’t. And I would want to know the truth about my family.

OP says in the first sentence that he has died.

MaurineWayBack · 31/10/2025 21:04

coldiris · 31/10/2025 20:34

What would you be looking to achieve by sharing it?

Maybe the question is
What would you be looking to acheive by NOT sharing it and still keep the secret for him?

Bobiverse · 31/10/2025 21:06

TheQuirkyMaker · 31/10/2025 21:03

OP says in the first sentence that he has died.

And yet another one who can’t think.

He had 70 years to abuse his children, grandchildren etc.

Children abused by family members don’t often speak up. They carry it silently. He could have abused his sons and his grandchildren. And no one has given them an opening to speak about it.

If there are grandchildren and he was ever alone with them, then someone needs to speak to those children and make sure nothing ever happened.

BadgernTheGarden · 31/10/2025 21:08

MaurineWayBack · 31/10/2025 21:04

Maybe the question is
What would you be looking to acheive by NOT sharing it and still keep the secret for him?

Just peace in the family, what good does causing an uproar now do? Plus not putting her mum through it all again assuming she must have known at the time.

Itiswhysofew · 31/10/2025 21:12

It's surprising he left that information in his desk, knowing that anyone would find it if they were snooping.

I wouldn't want to be the person to disclose it, neither would I want to be the only one to know. I'd show it to my siblings and see what comes of it.

MannersAreAll · 31/10/2025 21:14

OP says in the first sentence that he has died.

Yes, he died earlier this year so "Do any of your siblings have children? I would want to know if I had kids, so I could make sure he never did anything to them." is about giving her siblings the knowledge that an abuser has been around their children until very recently in case he did anything to them...

ClassicalQueen · 31/10/2025 21:17

Nothing good will come from sharing it. Shred the paperwork and keep the peace.

Allisnotlost1 · 31/10/2025 21:25

WilfredsPies · 31/10/2025 21:01

I remember watching a documentary on tv years ago about the wives of men who had been arrested for CSA and they talked about a charity that was for the families of these men. I really don’t remember what the name is, but I’m sure it will be on Google. You can talk it over with them and I’m sure they’d be able to discuss all the pros and cons with you before you make any decisions. It might be that you tell your brothers you’d found some paperwork showing something awful about your dad and asking them if they want to know what it was.

The other thing you need to consider is that it’s entirely possible that your mum knew about it and stayed married to him. Now that might have been because she felt she could better protect your brothers if they were always in the same house as her, rather than if he was seeing them alone for a few hours every Saturday afternoon, but it may also have been because she either didn’t believe it or she didn’t want to think about it. Are you prepared for your relationship with her to change?

Edited

Possibly it was the Lucy Faithfull Foundation.

OP I’m sorry you’ve learned this terrible information, and in these circumstances. I would suggest contacting them for advice when you feel able to https://www.stopitnow.org.uk/helpline/

i would not suggest keeping this to yourself - for your own sanity, but also for the possible relief of your brothers, and maybe others who have been victimised. I think it’s likely your mum knows. If you don’t have, or don’t want, a therapist you could call Samaritans just to talk it out. They won’t advise you, but a confidential and non-judgemental listener might help you figure out what to do.

Helpline - Stop It Now

Our helpline is a safe space for callers to talk about their concerns and questions. Our advisors listen and give guidance, support and advice.

https://www.stopitnow.org.uk/helpline/

UnhappyHobbit · 31/10/2025 21:26

LadyKenya · 31/10/2025 18:56

Why on Earth would you consider doing that? What do you think that would achieve really? If your Mother did not know, imagine the effect that could have, on a elderly person.

Ok so what you’re suggesting is to ignore paedophilia at the expense of people’s feelings? Those poor victims!

The OP has to live with it now, surely the truth is better out than in.

FlippyKiYayFlippyFlipper · 31/10/2025 21:26

I’d speak up OP. I’d be furious it was kept from me.
Personally I’d want to ensure no child in my family had been harmed by him.
Sorry you’re having to deal with this.

SaySomethingMan · 31/10/2025 21:29

Imnotgoing · 31/10/2025 18:57

Hard. I wouldn't want the stress on you alone. So i think i'd advise to share.

I agree with this.
Id want to share it with my siblings at least, so we could process it together. I wouldn’t want to bear the burden of knowing alone.

Hominim · 31/10/2025 21:30

I would want to know what my mum knew and what she did to protect me and my siblings tbh. I bet she knows

Dissappearedupmyownarse · 31/10/2025 21:33

Black51 · 31/10/2025 18:50

My elderly father died earlier this year. I have since discovered some official letters in his desk saying that when he was a young teacher he was banned from teaching due to sexually abusing some of his male pupils (in the 1950's). I have taken the paperwork away. Please let me know whether I should share this information with my mum and brothers, destroy the paperwork, or keep it private. I don't know what the best thing is to do here.

I was originally in team let sleeping dogs lie however, I feel that this secret will eat you up inside esp if family members start reminiscing about what a wonderful man he was etc How could you possibly join in a pretend he was this marvelous, pillar of the community?!
Its not your dirty secret to keep or to protect that vile man's legacy. You've done nothing wrong, if anything, he has deliberately ensured that his secret would eventually come out as why on earth would he have kept those documents otherwise?! Any sane person would have destroyed all evidence of such a disgusting past.....

Kibble19 · 31/10/2025 21:36

If this disgusting creep did it in the 1950s, he didn’t magically become a normal person after being caught (and having it swept under the carpet aside from getting into trouble at work). He’ll have done this again, probably lots of times.

mindutopia · 31/10/2025 21:36

Having been in a similar position, though the person isn’t yet dead, but it was historical offences discovered after the fact, I think you need to tell them. I would want to know. I did want to know sooner than I was told. There were a lot of things that didn’t make sense and I thought I was crazy, until suddenly they did make sense. This may help the family put some pieces together to make sense of some things.

There very well may be someone carrying some pain that they can’t really give a name to and this might finally validate how they feel. It did for me. It was a horrendous thing to go through, but it meant I could finally give a name to some of what I’d gone through.

Totally beyond that, this is a horrible burden for you to have to carry and to feel like you have to carry it alone. You can’t turn back time and un-know. But shame lives in darkness and in secrets. I always think shining the light on something is better than burying it.

WilfredsPies · 31/10/2025 21:41

@Allisnotlost1 That’s the one! I remembered Lucy, but nothing else.

Lilywc · 31/10/2025 21:41

Difficult one but what if there are people out there who come forward & say they were abused ? Would you need to keep those documents?

AutumnCosy2025 · 31/10/2025 21:42

Black51 · 31/10/2025 18:50

My elderly father died earlier this year. I have since discovered some official letters in his desk saying that when he was a young teacher he was banned from teaching due to sexually abusing some of his male pupils (in the 1950's). I have taken the paperwork away. Please let me know whether I should share this information with my mum and brothers, destroy the paperwork, or keep it private. I don't know what the best thing is to do here.

im sorry (for his victims obviously!!) that you had to read/discover this, I wonder why he kept the paperwork??

What was your relationship with him like?

it depends on so many different things, with so little to go on I can't say whether you should tell anyone or not.

HOWEVER, put the paperwork somewhere safe, where it won't be found accidentally. Do not get rid of it. Give yourself time & space to decide what's best for everyone.

Grammarnut · 31/10/2025 21:43

Cynic17 · 31/10/2025 18:54

How is telling people going to help? It doesn't achieve anything. I would just shred the papers, and put it behind me.

NO. You are destroying a historical record of the family. Put it in a deposit box not to be opened for 50 years. Also, the banned could have been based on a false accusation, destroying the evidence means that is unlikey to be investigated by descendants. OP might want to check herself, in fact.

DaftOldBiddy · 31/10/2025 21:44

I was told someone in my family had abused others. I didn't need to know and it has haunted me ever since. I am protecting my children from knowing this. I would avoid sharing it with anyone you don't have to.

But get help, counselling etc as it is difficult knowledge to have.

begonenicotine · 31/10/2025 21:46

Hominim · 31/10/2025 21:30

I would want to know what my mum knew and what she did to protect me and my siblings tbh. I bet she knows

Very possibly she protected them by staying. At that time the father would generally have “kept” the children not the mother (at least so far as I understand). The world was very different then and choices need to be seen through that lens I guess?

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 31/10/2025 21:51

Bobiverse · 31/10/2025 19:06

It was 70 years ago, the police aren’t going to go looking for school boys who are more than likely dead already. And they’re not going to open an investigation to look for more victims since her father is now dead. Going to the police is pointless. It’s already been adjudicated and he was banned from teaching.

I would talk to my brothers though, in case they were abused, and in case any grandchildren or great grandchildren have been abused.

People who are abused can spend their whole lives in turmoil and disturbance. So whatever you think, there are people who may wish to know..and know that someone else knew ..and that they are not going mad.

Please don't destroy the evidence and pretend you haven't seen a thing.Find a way to talk to your brothers and consider what tondo next, as siblings. This may include gently amd sensitively finding out if he had any support to address what happened and if he had contact with other younger people after teachinI'm so sorry though this must be an enormous shock and it may also be worth considering some good ther apy to help you make sense of it.

Pbjsand · 31/10/2025 21:53

I’m sorry you found this out OP. If it were me, I would tell siblings but not mother, it may put her in the grave.

Notashamed13 · 31/10/2025 21:55

In my opinion a problem shared is a problem halved. That's some serious shit OP, why should you carry the load alone?

Winteriscoming80 · 31/10/2025 21:58

So your dad was in his late 90’s?you’re mum will already know

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