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Is this an emotional affair?

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Hubbyissue82 · 24/10/2025 13:49

Long post. Sorry.
Husband and I are around our 40s and have been married for nearly 10 years now. In the past 10 years we have bought our own home, filled it not just with love but with two children and a dog. Which is not to say it has been easy… It has not been, on my end at least, for about a year.
Let me allow you a bit more background: hubby and I share the same workplace, though we are employed there in different positions. I only see him around lunchtime, which we – usually – spend together. About a year ago, our workplace hired someone new. I will refer to her as Girl. Girl is twenty-four and works closely with husband. Exactly how would give too much away, but they often work as a team. Initially, husband didn't like the idea of Girl assisting him in his work, because 1) she is quite a bit younger than we are, which, in our experience, often leads to different attitudes and therefore disagreement, and 2) she is freshly graduated, and, as such, not a very experienced professional.
His opinion of Girl changed rather quickly. I found this positive, as the idea of Girl working alongside him had previously caused some stress. Husband informed me that Girl made a favourable first impression, both on the people he works with and on him. I myself have of course already met Girl. Girl is friendly, creative, gentle. Impassioned about the work she does. I understood immediately how come hubby and Girl got along swimmingly.
Since Girl has started her job at our workplace, I have noticed, a couple of changes have emerged in the relationship between hubby and me. The most evident of them all is that hubby spends a lot of time with Girl. He doesn't say it like this, of course. But I know he works overtime, sometimes multiple days in the week, on projects he undertakes with Girl to innovate. ‘Breathing new life into old ideas’. OK, honey. Then, there is our lunch breaks! We would enjoy these together, before. These moments I look forward to throughout the morning have had to make way more than once for “work stuff”. Code, of course, for “creative brainstorming” with Girl. He never mentions he is doing this work stuff with her; this is what alerted me in the first place. Why does he feel the need to leave out Girl when he tells me he can’t spend his lunch break with me?
I have asked him about this, by the way. I appreciate forthright communication and he has always done the same. His answer was pretty clear: he presumed I knew, since his job is basically a shared position, now, and presumed as well that I did not care. I told him that I don’t, but that I feel a bit strange about his total silence about Girl in this “work stuff”. We had a good, honest conversation about it, I thought, and so I thought that was the end of my paranoiac suspicions about him and Girl. Why was I worried, anyway? Hubby likes his women blonde and skinny. Girl is dark haired and somewhat on the chubby side. NOT his type. He has made (lighthearted) jokes about her figure. So, NO reason to fret. Right?
Some time on from this valuable conversation, Girl and hubby continue to be “work pals”. Since Girl lives closeby, on the mornings he is not the one to bring our kids to school, hubby picks her up in the early morning and they carpool to work together. This decision was not made by us both. One morning, hubby just told me he felt it would be a good thing to do. I asked “why?”. She can drive, after all, she has her own car. He said it just felt like a nice thing to do. OK, honey. So Girl and him do not just spend many lunchbreaks together, but they drive to work together, as well. Again I had a conversation with hubby about his relationship with Girl. I named it for what it was in my eyes, a relationship. I asked him if it didn’t feel strange, to somehow connect so well with a woman more than ten years his (our) junior. At this he seemed mildly ticked off. He expressed that he found it ‘difficult’ that I was suspicious of this work relationship, since he has not always been lucky to have pleasant co-workers; I said I was not suspicious, maybe a bit worried, since so much of his time and thoughts are shared with Girl. Eventually we agreed on a boundary, being that outside of school, he would limit his communication with Girl, as they were certainly crossing into close friendship territory as opposed to close colleague territory.
He agreed. Communication, however, has not ceased. It did for a little while, I think, but I am aware they speak on Facebook and message back and forth. Which in and of itself I find deeply appropriate for a late 30s father and a mid 20s single woman. So… I may or may not have snooped a week or two ago to see just what these messages contain. All in all the entire chat log was innocent. Back and forth about everything and nothing. Something in me, though, reads all of it as two people falling in love? I can’t quite put my finger on it. Mocking teasing, sending one another photo’s of “thing that reminded me of you today while I was shopping!”, juvenile memes I don’t understand but he seems to like. I also found out hubby has bought her a gift on occasion (one time, a set of books; another time, a necklace with the initial of her name). Why does he do this? Why doesn’t he tell me he does this?
Since this I have been living in this weird state of being torn between two roads. I do trust husband. He has never given me any reason to suspect him of infidelity. Out of everyone I know, hubby would be the last I would think is capable of lying, cheating, etc. And yet, on the other road there is the strange reality that we have grown a bit more distant. We are a good couple and good parents to our kids as we have been but I can’t say things haven’t cooled down in certain departments of our relationship. Barely any dates. Sex is… something that happens maybe once a month.
I hope this Bible I wrote paints a somewhat clear picture for you to be able to answer this post's title. Is hubby having an emotional affair? If this goes on, will he cheat? It's a tough spot to be in, I hope some other perspectives or perhaps even experiences from other women will help me recognize just what position I am in. Or, well, what to expect. Ask me any questions if you would like to know more. I am an open book and sort of desperate, I'll admit.
Thank you in advance!

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NovaF · 27/10/2025 19:07

I don’t think it does reek of guilt, she is much younger than him and he has been badgering and pestering her and now she has been dragged into this. Not making excuses, but as others have pointed out, she is 25, the blame lays squarely at the feet of your creepy husband for hitting on someone who has only just formed their adult brain and probably looks younger than their age. She took his gifts, yes wrong, but not as wrong as the person that bought them!

His behaviour has been predatory and dishonest. She has obviously seen through his bullshit. Not that you need to see it through this lens, but on paper the person that she works with that is much older and flattering to her has crossed several lines that it reads as if she is not comfortable with, esp as he is being sexually pushy, she still has to work with him. Horrible. He probably felt like because he bought her items she owes him. Direct your anger at him, he caused this situation, she could have been any 25 year old

RealEagle · 27/10/2025 19:19

worriedmum1982 · 27/10/2025 18:23

Lo and behold, Girl did answer my message. I will reword it a bit for those who are still here and told me to keep posting to vent... I am admittedly curious to see what others think about it - I don't know if anger is just clouding my judgement, or if I am totally hitting the nail on the head here when I call BS
"Hi worriedmum1982, I'm really sad to read this. cheatinghusband1988 and I have been working together closely and it's true that our friendship has at times crossed lines of what is/isn't appropriate. I have tried to keep my distance but it hasn't been easy as cheatinghusband1988 and I are sort of inseparable through our work.
As i can presume you already know, I did tell cheatinghusband88 that i am not interested in engaging in an extramarital affair with anyone. cheatinghusband1988 and I have NEVER engaged in any sort of inappropriate behavior" - could've just said No, I didn't fuck your husband, Girl - "and I wouldn't have let that happen. At the end of the day we are also professionals and should pose a positive example for our students.
I hope everything turns out well, please know I will be distancing myself from cheatinghusband1988 out of respect for you and your children. I am so sorry this has happened. Really." And 10 more apologies. At least there is an apology from her, right, as opposed to cheatinghubby, who has taken to living with mommy... utterly pathetic.
Anywho- does this read as guilty to anyone else?

I agree with you her reply is bullshit.

Myfamilyisquirky · 27/10/2025 19:20

worriedmum1982 · 27/10/2025 18:23

Lo and behold, Girl did answer my message. I will reword it a bit for those who are still here and told me to keep posting to vent... I am admittedly curious to see what others think about it - I don't know if anger is just clouding my judgement, or if I am totally hitting the nail on the head here when I call BS
"Hi worriedmum1982, I'm really sad to read this. cheatinghusband1988 and I have been working together closely and it's true that our friendship has at times crossed lines of what is/isn't appropriate. I have tried to keep my distance but it hasn't been easy as cheatinghusband1988 and I are sort of inseparable through our work.
As i can presume you already know, I did tell cheatinghusband88 that i am not interested in engaging in an extramarital affair with anyone. cheatinghusband1988 and I have NEVER engaged in any sort of inappropriate behavior" - could've just said No, I didn't fuck your husband, Girl - "and I wouldn't have let that happen. At the end of the day we are also professionals and should pose a positive example for our students.
I hope everything turns out well, please know I will be distancing myself from cheatinghusband1988 out of respect for you and your children. I am so sorry this has happened. Really." And 10 more apologies. At least there is an apology from her, right, as opposed to cheatinghubby, who has taken to living with mommy... utterly pathetic.
Anywho- does this read as guilty to anyone else?

She is covering her arse big time all the I tried to keep my distance is complete lies she travelled to work with him accepted gifts and encouraged him by saying she felt the same way but would never do anything. I would take what she says with a pinch of salt, at the end of the day it was your husband who pursued her really full on he needs to shoulder the blame what a sad situation.I'm so sorry this happened to you and hope you have support in real life.Narrative control is important tell everyone what has happened.My parents had a nasty divorce after my dad's affair ( with his now wife both ex teachers funnily enough)his behaviour was terrible and he blamed my mum basically it was so damaging. my only advice would be to stay respectful in front of the children and support them through this difficult and confusing time. Wishing you all the best.

outerspacepotato · 27/10/2025 19:21

That response is classic CYA. She's just gotten a clue her job might be at risk and she's backpedaling and throwing your husband under those wheels.

She was inappropriate in the constant texting, accepting inappropriate gifts, and telling him that deep down, she returned his feelings.

A woman who wasn't interested would have stopped him at the venting about his wife and personal business. There would have been no gifts, no communication outside of work, no constant lunches together, and she would have told him she wasn't comfortable with his stepping over professional boundaries.

Mrspatmoresapprentice · 27/10/2025 19:28

”it’s true our relationship has at times crossed lines of what is/isn’t appropriate”. OFF YOU FUCK LOVE. Deep down, she returned his feelings??? As I suspected, she knew exactly what she was doing. Well, she fucked about and she’s about to find out. She is full of shit and he is a colossal wanker. He is also thick as shit because she won’t want him, not really, this was as much a pathetic ego boost for her, the silly, silly girl, as it was for him. Pair of utter cretins.

worriedmum1982 · 27/10/2025 19:32

Mrspatmoresapprentice · 27/10/2025 19:28

”it’s true our relationship has at times crossed lines of what is/isn’t appropriate”. OFF YOU FUCK LOVE. Deep down, she returned his feelings??? As I suspected, she knew exactly what she was doing. Well, she fucked about and she’s about to find out. She is full of shit and he is a colossal wanker. He is also thick as shit because she won’t want him, not really, this was as much a pathetic ego boost for her, the silly, silly girl, as it was for him. Pair of utter cretins.

Exactly my feelings, I couldn't word it this well myself. Cretins indeed. They'll get what they deserve though

GelatoForMe · 27/10/2025 19:46

Make sure your employer is aware....?

Hanschristiananderson · 27/10/2025 20:03

NovaF · 27/10/2025 19:07

I don’t think it does reek of guilt, she is much younger than him and he has been badgering and pestering her and now she has been dragged into this. Not making excuses, but as others have pointed out, she is 25, the blame lays squarely at the feet of your creepy husband for hitting on someone who has only just formed their adult brain and probably looks younger than their age. She took his gifts, yes wrong, but not as wrong as the person that bought them!

His behaviour has been predatory and dishonest. She has obviously seen through his bullshit. Not that you need to see it through this lens, but on paper the person that she works with that is much older and flattering to her has crossed several lines that it reads as if she is not comfortable with, esp as he is being sexually pushy, she still has to work with him. Horrible. He probably felt like because he bought her items she owes him. Direct your anger at him, he caused this situation, she could have been any 25 year old

Absolutely this.

Mrspatmoresapprentice · 27/10/2025 21:24

Hanschristiananderson · 27/10/2025 20:03

Absolutely this.

”Seen through his bullshit” my arse. She could have blocked him, refused lifts, never mind gifts, reported him for being inappropriate or just…ignored. Given him the old “I’m flattered but no” chestnut. She did none of that. She’s about to learn it may well cost her her career, never mind her reputation ( that will already be gone, because everyone will already know). The dick head man in this will also probably lose his job. Not his reputation though, since the sad fact is, man with younger woman gets kudos. In reality, the sad old fuck has become the ultimate cliche but they both shit on their own doorstep. What a WASTE of two careers, one marriage and one decent person, lives of children totally changed, all for the sake of two insecure, weak arseholes who lack self control. They are both vile and they should both have known better.

outerspacepotato · 27/10/2025 21:30

When a man is badgering you for a sexual relationship that you don't want, do you really constantly communicate with him and have little nicknames and let him give you rides to and from work and lunch with him as well as accept gifts?

No. He was predatory, but she encouraged and responded to his interest. She even admitted they were both inappropriate.

Now that she knows Worriedmum knows about their EA, she's running scared and is afraid this is going to blow up in her face.

99bottlesofkombucha · 27/10/2025 21:57

worriedmum1982 · 27/10/2025 18:23

Lo and behold, Girl did answer my message. I will reword it a bit for those who are still here and told me to keep posting to vent... I am admittedly curious to see what others think about it - I don't know if anger is just clouding my judgement, or if I am totally hitting the nail on the head here when I call BS
"Hi worriedmum1982, I'm really sad to read this. cheatinghusband1988 and I have been working together closely and it's true that our friendship has at times crossed lines of what is/isn't appropriate. I have tried to keep my distance but it hasn't been easy as cheatinghusband1988 and I are sort of inseparable through our work.
As i can presume you already know, I did tell cheatinghusband88 that i am not interested in engaging in an extramarital affair with anyone. cheatinghusband1988 and I have NEVER engaged in any sort of inappropriate behavior" - could've just said No, I didn't fuck your husband, Girl - "and I wouldn't have let that happen. At the end of the day we are also professionals and should pose a positive example for our students.
I hope everything turns out well, please know I will be distancing myself from cheatinghusband1988 out of respect for you and your children. I am so sorry this has happened. Really." And 10 more apologies. At least there is an apology from her, right, as opposed to cheatinghubby, who has taken to living with mommy... utterly pathetic.
Anywho- does this read as guilty to anyone else?

Hahahaa sucks to be her now, and she knows it. A suitable reply would be ‘I don’t think you should use that word ‘professional’ until you understand what it means, if your behaviour had been professional you would have reported my husband to the head for totally inappropriate behaviour. As it is I’m sure the head will be really impressed when they read all of your messages. As a hint for the future, if it’s professional it won’t put your job at risk.

Crikeyalmighty · 27/10/2025 22:03

worriedmum1982 · 26/10/2025 10:12

OP here. I deleted my account in a panic because I was afraid I'd given away too much, having mentioned our jobs, and someone I know in real life would stumble on this post. Seeing as the post wasn't even deleted with my account, I figured I'd give an update anyways, as a lot has happened since I last logged on.
It has been a wild 24 hours. I am upset, mostly for my children; for myself it's mostly disappointment in myself for being so blind at my age. I looked through his cellphone as I said I would and there was... a lot on there. There were tons and tons of messages between him and her and the contents were a lot worse than what I found on his Facebook chat-logs. He has been actively pursuing her and trying to persuade her into starting a romantic, and sexual, I suppose, relationship by feeding her lies about me and our relationship. He told her he only married me to please his parents, was never attracted to me, feels stuck in a life he didn't choose for himself. That I refuse to treat him like a man or a partner, just the parent of our children. It just went on and on and on, all lies of course, I suppose to soothe his own feeling of guilt.
Even though in earlier messages, she reciprocated his disgusting, flirtatious manner of speaking, she responded that she returned his feelings deep down but would never do anything because he is married, and because the age difference is so big. Apparently having grown up without a father, she would also "feel bad for causing the same to innocent kids". He did not even acknowledge my children throughout these conversations. Just time and again, "I have feelings for you and I want to spend the rest of my life with you, not my wife".
Not that it matters but nothing of a sexual nature, no pictures as I had feared. I assume they haven't consummated their delusional bond yet, but I assume it will be soon.
I confronted him with these messages as fast as I could and as some have told me to do, told him he had to leave without a fuss. I did tell him if he didn't, I would alert our employer immediately and I would do whatever I could to see him fired. He knew instantly what I was talking about without me having to mention his would be mistress and didn't try to deny it. We had a bit of a conversation about the 'Why" and he did somewhat double down on what he told her. The feeling was never as electric as he'd hoped, he's been unhappy for a long time in our marriage, he felt more like an object in a doll house than a person, bla bla bla. He did agree to leave until we figure out what's next, for us and more importantly for our children. They are confused, of course, but they are safe and that is all that matters.
At this point they are all I am worried about, as hurt as I am, I do believe I deserve better than some disgusting cheat going for twenty year olds, vile. I'm just disgusted. And to think I spent years of my life with this man, gave him children, supported him through thick and thin.

I have a great deal of sympathy for you - my H acted like a twat with a20 year old who did some part time work for us- developed a huge crush, sat snd wrote songs and poems about her - I’ve no idea if it was one sided or not - there was an awful of texting on phone bills at the time- in my case I found all this stuff 10 years after it was going on so not the same thing - I’ve stayed married but let’s just say I’ve never felt quite the same, he was well and truly off the pedestal I had put him on - in hindsight he too was losing weight, suddenly going swimming a lot, smartened hiswardrobe up - various stuff . He did say it was all a giant ego boost when he felt down in life - if I had found negative shit about me it would have been game over , even 10 years down the line. What utter idiots some men are and yes some women are total idiots too going along with it

YumYa · 27/10/2025 22:11

@worriedmum1982 am so sorry to hear this but not surprised.
She's lying. He's a pig.

I really feel for you and dcs. I hope you have plenty of support 💐

Snorlaxo · 27/10/2025 22:13

I’m really sorry op. 💐

Girl is throwing your h under the bus and saying that she respects you because she doesn’t want you to report the affair. Her reasoning doesn’t make sense- if she didn’t return his feelings then she wouldn’t continue accepting gifts, lifts etc. I would bet on them texting each other right now and meeting up outside of work.

MsDogLady · 27/10/2025 23:20

outerspacepotato · 27/10/2025 19:21

That response is classic CYA. She's just gotten a clue her job might be at risk and she's backpedaling and throwing your husband under those wheels.

She was inappropriate in the constant texting, accepting inappropriate gifts, and telling him that deep down, she returned his feelings.

A woman who wasn't interested would have stopped him at the venting about his wife and personal business. There would have been no gifts, no communication outside of work, no constant lunches together, and she would have told him she wasn't comfortable with his stepping over professional boundaries.

Absolutely, @outerspacepotato.

She really is bricking it, @Hubbyissue82, and is scrambling for damage control and spewing total bullshit. Claiming that they ‘NEVER engaged in any inappropriate behavior’ and are ‘professionals’ is ludicrous.

She is focusing on her refusal to start a sexual affair like that is the
end-all and be-all, when in truth she fully participated in an equally or even more damaging Emotional Affair. She minimizes that their ‘friendship’ crossed lines ‘at times’, but the reality was much wider, deeper and intimate. Her claim that she intentionally distanced herself is an absolute lie — admitting reciprocated feelings, accepting personal gifts, constant private contact and flirty chat/nicknames, ‘thinking of you’ photos, and daily rides & lunches prove that. She was reveling in his romantic adoration and returning it, never expecting you to find out.

Both of them must now face the music.

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99bottlesofkombucha · 27/10/2025 21:57

Hahahaa sucks to be her now, and she knows it. A suitable reply would be ‘I don’t think you should use that word ‘professional’ until you understand what it means, if your behaviour had been professional you would have reported my husband to the head for totally inappropriate behaviour. As it is I’m sure the head will be really impressed when they read all of your messages. As a hint for the future, if it’s professional it won’t put your job at risk.

This absolutely spot on response to her. She is afraid to lose her job. Please make sure to have a copy of her admitting it along with screenshots of all their messages. She has no idea what professional is.

Please do not buy into the she is so naive and doesn't know better. YES SHE DOES. She absolutely was happy as can be to play her part. You aren't a faceless wife. She knows you and works with you. That makes her even worse as she knowingly fucked around with her coworkers husband.

We have to stop this whole poor naive little girl nonsense. It is a matter of right and wrong. You don't try to fuck other people's husbands. She loved the attention and now is afraid of the repercussions. Yes your husband is absolutely to blame but she has 50% of the blame too. She encouraged it at every opportunity. A decent person would have reported his advances and then it would only be on him. But they both equally played their parts in this. Let them both sink together to dwell with the other bottom feeders. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They both suck and deserve what they get.

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In 15 years of reading Mumsnet, this is the most unnecessarily catty and despicable reply I have ever read @BauhausOfEliott. Congratulations.

worriedmum1982 · 28/10/2025 04:02

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If you were capable of reading between the lines you would have gathered I don't teach at all.
How I write my posts however is my business just like what I say/don't say in them. Go read a picture book if you struggle with them. I have no need to put up with (indeed, catty) bullshit like yours.

LetsPutTheKettleOn · 28/10/2025 06:18

MsDogLady · 27/10/2025 23:20

Absolutely, @outerspacepotato.

She really is bricking it, @Hubbyissue82, and is scrambling for damage control and spewing total bullshit. Claiming that they ‘NEVER engaged in any inappropriate behavior’ and are ‘professionals’ is ludicrous.

She is focusing on her refusal to start a sexual affair like that is the
end-all and be-all, when in truth she fully participated in an equally or even more damaging Emotional Affair. She minimizes that their ‘friendship’ crossed lines ‘at times’, but the reality was much wider, deeper and intimate. Her claim that she intentionally distanced herself is an absolute lie — admitting reciprocated feelings, accepting personal gifts, constant private contact and flirty chat/nicknames, ‘thinking of you’ photos, and daily rides & lunches prove that. She was reveling in his romantic adoration and returning it, never expecting you to find out.

Both of them must now face the music.

Absolutely this!
She will be panicking right now. She encouraged him and probably realising that the attention/flirting (whatever it was) will not have been worth the repercussions that will shortly follow.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 28/10/2025 07:26

Glindaa · 26/10/2025 19:01

Why does it matter if the post is outing ? OP has nothing to be ashamed of & DH deserves to be outed.
Sounds like the girl didn’t reciprocate, but she has continued the dialogue …

Sounds like the girl didn’t reciprocate, but she has continued the dialogue …

I obv have no idea of what she is thinking, but she may have told him what she told him about ‘deep down’ returning his feelings etc bc she is still reliant on him for professional advice, support, assessments possibly, not to mention free lifts to and from work!

I don’t want to turn her into THE victim in all this, but she may be out of her depth and going along with these lunches and sickening tacky gifts bc she’s inexperienced or not confident with this kind of dynamic or is scared of offending her mentor and how this could negatively affect her job. She obviously hasn’t thought how this all coming out could be even worse for her but there you go.

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Helpful? No.
Nasty? Yes.

rainbowstardrops · 28/10/2025 07:49

Putting the lunches, lifts, presents and dwindling sex together and it’s not looking good to be honest.

WearyCat · 28/10/2025 08:04

SomewhatAnnoyed · 28/10/2025 07:26

Sounds like the girl didn’t reciprocate, but she has continued the dialogue …

I obv have no idea of what she is thinking, but she may have told him what she told him about ‘deep down’ returning his feelings etc bc she is still reliant on him for professional advice, support, assessments possibly, not to mention free lifts to and from work!

I don’t want to turn her into THE victim in all this, but she may be out of her depth and going along with these lunches and sickening tacky gifts bc she’s inexperienced or not confident with this kind of dynamic or is scared of offending her mentor and how this could negatively affect her job. She obviously hasn’t thought how this all coming out could be even worse for her but there you go.

It can be very difficult for young women to challenge older and more senior men. I can remember having such low self esteem that I almost needed the 10-years-older bloke to grope me in the store cupboard, even though he repelled and frightened me at the same time. I never made him stop and I could have.

I imagine most of us are aware of how vindictive men can be if you turn them down for a drink in a bar (anyone else used to pretend their BFF was a lesbian partner?) and of course husbands if they decide they want the marriage to end. If this is an NQT or a trainee, and he is her mentor or head of department, there’s a power imbalance in his favour and all that that implies- which is why such relationships are out of professional bounds. She may have been flattered, and may genuinely like him as a colleague, but still been unsure of how, or unable, to put down boundaries that he would respect, so now she is clinging to those that she did lay down.

All that to say that her responsibility in this matter is tiny compared to his. He is the married one, he is the one making all the running here, and he is the one abusing his power and position at work and his wife and children at home. She is almost irrelevant, because there shouldn’t have been anyone in her position in the first place.

@Hubbyissue82 how are you doing today? Are you at work this week?

Hanschristiananderson · 28/10/2025 08:05

WearyCat · 28/10/2025 08:04

It can be very difficult for young women to challenge older and more senior men. I can remember having such low self esteem that I almost needed the 10-years-older bloke to grope me in the store cupboard, even though he repelled and frightened me at the same time. I never made him stop and I could have.

I imagine most of us are aware of how vindictive men can be if you turn them down for a drink in a bar (anyone else used to pretend their BFF was a lesbian partner?) and of course husbands if they decide they want the marriage to end. If this is an NQT or a trainee, and he is her mentor or head of department, there’s a power imbalance in his favour and all that that implies- which is why such relationships are out of professional bounds. She may have been flattered, and may genuinely like him as a colleague, but still been unsure of how, or unable, to put down boundaries that he would respect, so now she is clinging to those that she did lay down.

All that to say that her responsibility in this matter is tiny compared to his. He is the married one, he is the one making all the running here, and he is the one abusing his power and position at work and his wife and children at home. She is almost irrelevant, because there shouldn’t have been anyone in her position in the first place.

@Hubbyissue82 how are you doing today? Are you at work this week?

Absolutely agree.

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