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Are men all the same in every country?

148 replies

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 06:47

I’m tired of being treated like a maid. Last relationship my ex expected me to cook and clean like a maid but this new one as well.

i understand he pays our bills but he expects me to cook and clean. He says that relationships should make each other lives more pleasant , not harder.

he complains that since we’ve been together his expenses have gone up 3 times and he’s cleaning and cooking just as much as before.

i told him that I can do more than cook and clean, and his response is “but I need help with cooking and cleaning. I feel resentful if im paying all our bills AND cooking for myself and cleaning more than you”

what should i do here??

OP posts:
CleanShirt · 21/10/2025 18:34

Get professional help, @togo1004. Urgently.

GagMeWithASpoon · 21/10/2025 18:44

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:47

But this makes things transactional. Then it’s not love is it??

If you love this guy , then I’m the Queen of England!

Sodthesystem · 21/10/2025 18:48

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 07:04

I work, but I don’t contribute to our household because I need to build up my savings to feel safe.

but he expects me to do 90% of the household chores from laundry to cooking and cleaning. He said he’ll take out the trash/recycle and clean the bathroom.

So you're a leach.

I'm all for men being the provider and women being allowed to keep savings from their income but to contribute nothing is pathetic.

At the very least you could pay 20percent as a token of decency and pull your weight in the home.

It's partly because of women like you the rest of us can't find good men.

GagMeWithASpoon · 21/10/2025 18:49

user793847984375948 · 21/10/2025 14:55

I was interested in your initial question but this is just another 'I'm with a man who wants me to wait on him all my life and i don't want to should I do that or not?'

It’s more “I’m with a man who expects me to pull my weight but i just want to prance around, buying flowers, decorating, sleeping until 2 pm and feeling “safe””.

Arlanymor · 21/10/2025 18:57

You asked if all men are the same and yet here you are giving women a bad name. You're a mooch, there are no two ways about it.

Your options are:

  1. Contribute to the household financially and share the housework
  2. Move out and support yourself - stand on your own two feet for once
Bananalanacake · 21/10/2025 20:34

Well live on your own then, you won't have a man expecting you to be a housemaid. But you will have to pay your own rent and bills though.

togo1004 · 22/10/2025 03:15

Bananalanacake · 21/10/2025 20:34

Well live on your own then, you won't have a man expecting you to be a housemaid. But you will have to pay your own rent and bills though.

This is my point I see it as a maid, he sees it as “there’s nothing else left to do”. He is emotionally manipulative by telling me “there’s not much to do daily, bills need to be paid, food needs to be cooked and place needs to be cleaned. I’m designated to pay the bills which is the hardest, so then the rest you should do it with a smile on your face like I do my job”

who says these abusive manipulative things like this??

OP posts:
Devilsmommy · 22/10/2025 03:36

Fucking hell. Please don't ever have a child. You are so honestly deluded it isn't even funny. I'm always on the side of the women normally but fucking hell your poor fella needs to fucking sprint as fast and far away from you as possible. How old are you op? I can't fathom an actual adult thinking this way😳

togo1004 · 22/10/2025 04:14

GagMeWithASpoon · 21/10/2025 18:49

It’s more “I’m with a man who expects me to pull my weight but i just want to prance around, buying flowers, decorating, sleeping until 2 pm and feeling “safe””.

That’s not what I mean. I add in different ways by making his house warm, I do cook sometimes when I can because I work a lot these days. I’m tired also.

OP posts:
Mealy82 · 22/10/2025 06:37

togo1004 · 22/10/2025 03:15

This is my point I see it as a maid, he sees it as “there’s nothing else left to do”. He is emotionally manipulative by telling me “there’s not much to do daily, bills need to be paid, food needs to be cooked and place needs to be cleaned. I’m designated to pay the bills which is the hardest, so then the rest you should do it with a smile on your face like I do my job”

who says these abusive manipulative things like this??

An abusive man. LTB (before he kicks you out). You got this

Mealy82 · 22/10/2025 06:40

togo1004 · 22/10/2025 04:14

That’s not what I mean. I add in different ways by making his house warm, I do cook sometimes when I can because I work a lot these days. I’m tired also.

You never told us you sometimes put the heating on! Sounds like you do a LOT of work for him and he still doesn't appreciate you, FFS.

UpDownAllAround1 · 22/10/2025 06:42

Have I just gone back to the 1950’s? Guessing in the US

SumUp · 22/10/2025 07:10

Your partner was hoping for an equal partnership, which you don’t have.

Contributing to the household properly, not the tokenism you give at present, is essential. You cannot afford to be putting money aside to prioritise your own security if you aren’t doing the lions share of the household tasks or paying your way.

UpDownAllAround1 · 22/10/2025 07:36

Vulvalodgov

Calliecarpa · 22/10/2025 08:05

UpDownAllAround1 · 22/10/2025 06:42

Have I just gone back to the 1950’s? Guessing in the US

No, the OP is Russian. She's posted lots of threads here before, and until very recently was living with another man in Asia and sponging off him, while constantly moaning here about how awful he was and how hard her life was. She said she was going back to Russia to stay with her parents for a while after the bloke saw sense and dumped her, so I'm guessing this new man is also Russian.

NotOurCat · 22/10/2025 08:22

This feels like an exercise in futility, but here goes. Op, I saw your last threads. On those threads, a lot of people took time out of their very busy lives to offer you kind, constructive and well meaning advice about what YOU needed to do. You met every single bit of that advice with mulish obstinacy and a sense of self entitlement that was absolutely, stratospherically off the chart. As described in your very own words on those threads, you are a nightmare to live with. You need to get help. I very much doubt you will, because after all, everyone else is the problem, aren't they? I hope to God this man cops on quicker than the last one because you nearly broke him. And in answer to your question; yes, men pretty much are the same everywhere. The decent ones want love and an equal relationship where they get treated like an actual human, not a cashpoint. You'll be the same in every country you go to as well. Because wherever you are, there you'll be.

Howinthehelldidthishappen · 22/10/2025 08:26

Oh it's you again! Haven't seen a thread of yours for a while.
Is this a new partner? Because it's not that long since we were all rooting for the last one to leave you....
If so, you're moving VERY quickly.
But tell me, does this one validate your feelings??

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 22/10/2025 08:31

OP you have a very strange view of the world. Love is about working as a team, not expecting a free ride. Whoever you live with you need to pay your way. That can either be in cash or in kind - which means you do jobs that need to be done in the house if you can’t afford to financially contribute. This applies when living with parents friends or a partner. I don’t know why you seem to think living with a man means you don’t have to do anything but smile, buy some flowers every now and then and make a home ‘warm’. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land. No wonder your partner is fed up. He’s paying for everything and getting nothing in return. Just a lazy person living in his home who stays in bed for half the weekend and squirrels away any money they have. I’d kick you out. You should think yourself lucky he hasn’t yet. To be honest it’s only a matter of time before he does.

Chairity · 22/10/2025 18:36

How do you feel op reading everyone's responses? Does the fact that no-one agrees with you here (nor on past threads if I'm not mistaken) resonate at all? Or do you still think you're right and absolutely everyone else is wrong?

SomewhatAnnoyed · 23/10/2025 06:21

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 22/10/2025 08:31

OP you have a very strange view of the world. Love is about working as a team, not expecting a free ride. Whoever you live with you need to pay your way. That can either be in cash or in kind - which means you do jobs that need to be done in the house if you can’t afford to financially contribute. This applies when living with parents friends or a partner. I don’t know why you seem to think living with a man means you don’t have to do anything but smile, buy some flowers every now and then and make a home ‘warm’. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land. No wonder your partner is fed up. He’s paying for everything and getting nothing in return. Just a lazy person living in his home who stays in bed for half the weekend and squirrels away any money they have. I’d kick you out. You should think yourself lucky he hasn’t yet. To be honest it’s only a matter of time before he does.

I don’t know why you seem to think living with a man means you don’t have to do anything but smile, buy some flowers every now and then and make a home ‘warm’. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land. No wonder your partner is fed up. He’s paying for everything and getting nothing in return.

My guess is the OP is making the most of her physical assets while she can. When she becomes older she will target much older men - men who want the arm candy and excitement in bed and are willing to tolerate her gross, self-centred behaviour the rest of the time, until they aren’t. Then she finds another victim.

To say she ‘only has a few thousand’ in the bank, (which she is presumably adding to regularly) as if it’s her right to be paid for by others, while accruing vast personal sums gives you the idea of the kind of human she is. Pathetic

GarlicPound · 23/10/2025 06:44

Actually, she should skip straight to the old, very rich men. If she's messing about in her own age bracket the guys have a wide choice of options, some of whom will be reasonably sane and nearly as attractive as OP.

Aged billionaires also have a lot of young women making themselves available, but the quality will generally be lower. OP must be very good at whatever it is she does, so should be able to beat off the competition. Once she's landed a cunt-struck benefactor with a house full of staff and a bottomless bank account, all she has to do is be lovely to him for a few hours a day and count the diamonds in her necklaces. Oh, and see a really good therapist.

Get yourself the latest Forbes rich list, @togo1004, and start fishing!

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 23/10/2025 07:59

Move back in with your parents until you have saved enough to start financially contributing and then move in on the condition he does half the cleaning etc or you jointly agree to pay for help.

SoberOctober2025 · 23/10/2025 16:54

Oh my goodness, I think I recognise you from other threads. Were you in Asia very recently and having the same issues with your fiance? Is this a new man again?

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