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Are men all the same in every country?

148 replies

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 06:47

I’m tired of being treated like a maid. Last relationship my ex expected me to cook and clean like a maid but this new one as well.

i understand he pays our bills but he expects me to cook and clean. He says that relationships should make each other lives more pleasant , not harder.

he complains that since we’ve been together his expenses have gone up 3 times and he’s cleaning and cooking just as much as before.

i told him that I can do more than cook and clean, and his response is “but I need help with cooking and cleaning. I feel resentful if im paying all our bills AND cooking for myself and cleaning more than you”

what should i do here??

OP posts:
Pollqueen · 19/10/2025 10:43

Glad you're back OP, I love your threads! Highly entertaining 🤣

rainbowsinheaven · 19/10/2025 10:48

Just contribute to the bills and stop expecting men to fund you and your lifestyle.

ACatAsleepInYourHat · 19/10/2025 11:08

I can see this turning into another horribly fascinating slow-motion car crash just like all the OP's other threads. It's obvious that she hasn't gained one iota of self-awareness despite all the counselling she (allegedly) was having last time, she's still impossibly lazy and entitled, still sleeping till mid-afternoon... Has there been any mention of the God-awful eating habits yet?
The most fascinating thing of all is that she's found another poor victim individual to latch onto. All hail the Queen of the Fannylodgers!

MrsZiggywinkle · 19/10/2025 11:29

I think your solution is to move out, get your own place, pay your own bills, do your own cleaning and eat the minuscule amount of food you talk about.

Youre not compatible and this won’t end well.

Loving the suggestion of vulva lodger!

Wasssuuuuup · 19/10/2025 11:33

Ooooh Sunday pisstake. Could bw better though. This is too transparent.

Natty13 · 19/10/2025 16:43

Yes, my dear, every man in every country expects a woman to bring SOMETHING to the table.

Sex, the charm of your company, fresh flowers...none of that is enough to bring to a relationship long term. You need to contribute either financially or by doing more cooking/cleaning. You may think this is ridiculous but frankly nobody will ever love you, love you deeply, and love you forever which you so clearly want as long as you refuse to accept this fact.

You can scour the Earth and you will never find the magic man who will find you gorgeous/funny/sweet/clever ebough to pay for 100% house and bills and also not expect a clean house or warm meal from you. The sooner you understand you need to contribute something in return instead of taking from others you may find a man who doesn't end up kicking you out and some friends who don't ditch you.

outerspacepotato · 19/10/2025 16:52

You not contributing financially even though you're working makes you less safe because your partner is getting tired of you not pulling your weight and will end the relationship. Then you'll be paying 100% of everything and all the cooking and cleaning too.

Good luck.👍

Bibi12 · 19/10/2025 17:52

You need to start contributing to your household expenses. If you both work he can't expect you to do all the housework and you can't expect him to pay all the bills.

Calliecarpa · 19/10/2025 18:24

Oh, you're back, OP. It's been a few months since you were last here. I see you've met a new man now and seem to be sponging off him too. Surprise, surprise. I guess you're back in Russia and the new man is Russian?

FYI for anyone posting in this thread who doesn't know - the OP posted in Relationships numerous times a few months ago constantly moaning about her ex-fiancé in Asia, who paid all the bills for both of them and also supported his parents and his elderly sick grandmother, and the OP controlled him to a degree that seemed abusive to many of us. For example, she didn't allow him to see any of his family or friends without her being there, and refused to let him go to church or to do the voluntary work he enjoyed. Running a search for her previous threads here is quite an eye-opener.

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:38

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Because if I don’t I have no where to go. As on the other hand if we break up he’ll be fine.

thats a big difference. I just think it’s unfair I have to work and expected to do most of the house work.

OP posts:
Onegingerhead · 21/10/2025 07:41

If you don’t contribute financially and no kids are involved, he may not be unreasonable.

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:43

Bibi12 · 19/10/2025 17:52

You need to start contributing to your household expenses. If you both work he can't expect you to do all the housework and you can't expect him to pay all the bills.

I can’t afford it. I make 2400 usd a month. His bills are much more than that. How can I contribute also I have no savings hence no safety’s. If you love someone shouldn’t they understand that?

I also work like everyone else and to think that I have to do MORE work is beyond crazy. I know for a fact I’m not wrong here

OP posts:
togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:47

Natty13 · 19/10/2025 16:43

Yes, my dear, every man in every country expects a woman to bring SOMETHING to the table.

Sex, the charm of your company, fresh flowers...none of that is enough to bring to a relationship long term. You need to contribute either financially or by doing more cooking/cleaning. You may think this is ridiculous but frankly nobody will ever love you, love you deeply, and love you forever which you so clearly want as long as you refuse to accept this fact.

You can scour the Earth and you will never find the magic man who will find you gorgeous/funny/sweet/clever ebough to pay for 100% house and bills and also not expect a clean house or warm meal from you. The sooner you understand you need to contribute something in return instead of taking from others you may find a man who doesn't end up kicking you out and some friends who don't ditch you.

But this makes things transactional. Then it’s not love is it??

OP posts:
JoemarIerseyes · 21/10/2025 07:48

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 07:09

He’s fine he’s well off. I have no savings because I recently paid off debt. I can’t help but to feel like his mom if I’m cooking and cleaning for him all of the time.

You seem to find men who need help, and then move in with them. Then seem surprised when that's what they want from you

AlpacaBiscuit · 21/10/2025 07:50

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 07:12

But I don’t really eat all that much and need much. I told him that and he says that his expenses have tripled because we go out every weekend (he wants to stay home sometimes but I don’t go out on weekday so we have to go out on weekend or else it’ll be unfair for me). And that things like toothpaste and toilet paper run out twice as fast.

hes like nickel and diming me and gas lighting me to feel guilty

Then leave 🤷🏻‍♀️

AlpacaBiscuit · 21/10/2025 07:52

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:47

But this makes things transactional. Then it’s not love is it??

No, it’s about contribution, collaboration and compromise. You sound unwilling in all those areas.
A house needs to be run, bills paid, meals cooked. You sound unwilling to contribute to any of that. That’s not transactional, that’s about there being a fair split of resources.

Takenoprisoner · 21/10/2025 08:05

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:47

But this makes things transactional. Then it’s not love is it??

No, it makes it reciprocal so you mutually benefit each other. Why is that so hard to understand?

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 08:23

Thanks for the tread OP, I thought women like you were invented by redditors 😂
You say "he's the man" meaning what? He should pay? Ok if you want to live in the 19th Century then you have to 'be the women" and cook and clean. Or you can, you know, be fair and both pay and both do chores. Now, you are being financially abusive.

Mealy82 · 21/10/2025 08:40

How did you find a new man to move in with so quickly after splitting with the last one?

TrustedTheWrongFart · 21/10/2025 13:25

togo1004 · 21/10/2025 07:47

But this makes things transactional. Then it’s not love is it??

Is it love after only 2 months?

JG24 · 21/10/2025 14:08

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 08:05

I’m in Russia, was living in Asia with my ex fiancé. He was the same way. Because when I was with my ex I couldn’t work due to my panic attacks so he funded us fully. In return he expected me to take care most of the house work.

and I couldn’t because I was in depression and had no energy and he resented me. All he ever talked about in the end was that how he works 16 hours a day and can’t even come home to a warm meal. Why do men from all these countries expect that??

Just reading through the thread and I mentally bet myself it was you! The russian and Asia reference confirms it
I knew there could not be two women in the world with your views
He needs to leave you

user793847984375948 · 21/10/2025 14:55

I was interested in your initial question but this is just another 'I'm with a man who wants me to wait on him all my life and i don't want to should I do that or not?'

childofthe607080s · 21/10/2025 14:59

No not all men are the same
and all women are not the same either

yiu are either a partnership or you are not

and if not, leave ,

Mollydoggerson · 21/10/2025 15:19

Learn to be independent. If YOU want to go out over the weekend, put YOUR hand into YOUR pocket and pay for it.

Just pay your own way for goodness sakes. Pay for your toiletries, your heating, your food.

29Braydon · 21/10/2025 15:47

togo1004 · 19/10/2025 07:04

I work, but I don’t contribute to our household because I need to build up my savings to feel safe.

but he expects me to do 90% of the household chores from laundry to cooking and cleaning. He said he’ll take out the trash/recycle and clean the bathroom.

Fair is for both partners to contribute equally financially and domestically. Of you're doing less of one you should be doing more of the other.

It sounds like you want him to contribute 100% financially and 90% domestically.