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Husband wants me to work full-time

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Lovelifesmile · 23/08/2025 07:36

My husband and I have two children (aged 4 and 2). I currently work the equivalent of 3 days a week doing shift work and my husband works full-time at 5 days per week. I would like to work the equivalent of 4 days per week when my youngest child goes to school. My husband wants me to go full-time. My husbands income is £2700 per month. My income part-time 3 days per week is £2200 and if I worked 4 days per week I would earn £2900. We are comfortable financially as we are currently, and would be very comfortable with me going 4 days per week. I want to use the 'day off' per week to do the food shop, house cleaning, washing, gardening maintenance and food prep. My values are that I want to earn enough money to be comfortable, but also have time to do the housework, appointments, school admin and help with homework to free up our weekends to go out and not to household chores on the weekend. It appears my husband values money the most. If I was full time I would take home £3400 per month so it's a difference of £500 per month. I am more than happy for him to also drop to 4 days per week to spend more time with the children if he wants to, but he doesn't wish to do this.

OP posts:
Tiswa · 23/08/2025 09:24

I have just realised as well you earning more would mean he could do the iron man and therefore be out of the house even more what a CF

Pregnancyquestion · 23/08/2025 09:24

Comtesse · 23/08/2025 09:22

Nice try. If a woman was asking her husband to do full time shift work (ie a lot harder than regular 9-5) so she could buy a horse then she’d be told she was entitled too!

No, if she was working full time and wanted her husband to go full time so she can have some money for herself she wouldn’t be called selfish. Her husband would be called a cocklodger for working part time

Channellingsophistication · 23/08/2025 09:24

If you work full-time, is he willing then to do 50% of the childcare and 50% of all the household chores and admin?

I suspect not so therefore I would stick to 3 or 4 days a week.

BabyCatFace · 23/08/2025 09:24

What about childcare? With children that age surely you'll lose much of the extra income on childcare?!

Araminta1003 · 23/08/2025 09:24

Do 4 days. If he wants to do iron man etc he will be doing training all weekend etc When they are in primary there is loads of admin and mental load and if you have a day off a week, you can stay on top of it, do after school clubs that day etc.
If he wants a luxury man sports fund he has to get a better job himself.

fruitbrewhaha · 23/08/2025 09:25

So he has picked some expensive and very time consuming hobbies he’d like to pursue. So while you spend all weekend doing the shopping laundry and cleaning he’ll be off all day running cycling or up a rock face.

dirtygreyrug · 23/08/2025 09:27

So he wants you to earn more so that he can spend more time on his hobbies ?
do you know anyone who has done the Ironman ? There’s is MASSES of training for it … taking up whole days and weekends … and he wants to do this whilst you have young children!

this is really selfish behaviour on his part . You need to sit down and discuss how the division of labour is going to work … and him picking them up a couple of times of week is not about it being nice for him but him doing his bit as he is part of the family .

Imperativvv · 23/08/2025 09:27

Pregnancyquestion · 23/08/2025 09:22

Lot of assumptions about what he does and doesn’t do, and I don’t see a problem with someone wanting a hobby, as long as they both have equivalent time and money to spend.

Which they will not, because of the nature of the hobbies he intends to pursue.

adviceneeded1990 · 23/08/2025 09:28

arethereanyleftatall · 23/08/2025 09:16

when my youngest started school I thought I would up my hours to school hours. (Own business, flexible). I’d previously done about 10 a week and no outsourced childcare.,

I lasted about one month because our quality of life totally plummeted.

i used to get all the chores, errands, admin, shopping…everything..done in the week and our lovely weekends were actual downtime, family time, my hobby, his.

then for that month, we were doing all of that all weekend.

our lives were just work, some unpaid, some not.

if you can afford it, and it won’t affect your career not to, I would never advise both parents of young children to work full time, as their work/life balance won’t be good.

I’m not trying to sound confrontational but genuinely wondering, what possibly needs done in a house cleaning or errand wise that takes 5 evenings a week AND all weekend, unless you live in Buckingham palace? I’d honestly say we spend about 15-20 mins a night doing a tidy before bed, all working together, DH does a shop one evening while DSD is at a hobby class, it takes 45 mins. He batch cooks for the week on a Sunday night listening to his football highlights after bedtime, takes him about an hour. I do a deeper clean of the (probably average sized) house on a Sunday, it takes me an hour or so if we’ve kept on top of things with nightly tidies during the week. I will never understand how Mumsnet people are losing several hours per evening plus two full days to this stuff.

arethereanyleftatall · 23/08/2025 09:28

Pregnancyquestion · 23/08/2025 09:22

Lot of assumptions about what he does and doesn’t do, and I don’t see a problem with someone wanting a hobby, as long as they both have equivalent time and money to spend.

A hobby?!? Do you know what an iron man is @Pregnancyquestion?!?
it’s a (loosely) 4km swim, 180km cycle, 42km run.
it would require about 20 hours training a week.

im not sure how you think a mum and dad of 2 young kids could both work full time and both have time for a 20 hour a week hobby.

what the husband is asking is the op to bring in more money than him AND do all the unpaid work to facilitate his hobby.

CrispieCake · 23/08/2025 09:28

Ultimately, any hobby that takes up more than a few hours during the week and at weekends is an unsuitable hobby for a parent with young children. To expect to do something like this and for you to fund it is doubly unreasonable.

GabriellaMontez · 23/08/2025 09:31

So you both have a good work/life balance then? Hybrid working, decent money. A system for juggling children. Which all seems fair enough...

But he wants you to adjust your role to bring in even more money, so he can do an iron-man? While he continues to not push himself too much at work.

Fuck right off.

Cinaferna · 23/08/2025 09:32

He's crazy. Your extra money would get eaten up immediately with childcare cover, and maybe paying someone to do the cleaning etc - all the jobs you have no time and energy to do f both parents work full time.Your children are very young. Wait until they are older. If he wants extra money for Iron Man he can do what everyone else does and sell stuff on Vinted or take on extra work. He does understand if you work longer hours, his chance of training will decrease? Someone has to look after the children.

Imperativvv · 23/08/2025 09:33

Pregnancyquestion · 23/08/2025 09:24

No, if she was working full time and wanted her husband to go full time so she can have some money for herself she wouldn’t be called selfish. Her husband would be called a cocklodger for working part time

Edited

You've made up up the bit about him wanting OP to go full time so he can have some money for himself, though.

OP says they're currently comfortable, and that he wants to use the extra money on holidays and Iron Mans. Nothing in that suggests he doesn't already have some money for himself. You might, I suppose, argue that there's not enough information to say one way or the other, but that means no filling in the blanks like you have here.

Xyloplane · 23/08/2025 09:33

Lovelifesmile · 23/08/2025 07:48

Yes financial, he would like more money to build more savings, go on a few lavish holidays a year and he would like to go rock climbing and participate in sport events such as Iron Man which are not cheap activities. We already put some money into savings per month on our current income and I would be happy with one nice holiday per year etc.

So he wants you to fund his hobbies? Rather than spending his time berating and pressuring you maybe he should focus on upskilling so he can earn more. Absolute cheek of the man. You’ve gone through two pregnancies and birthed two children in the last 5 years, you already make more money pro rata than he does, and let me guess, you do the lion’s share of the domestic labour anc childcare? And he wants to put more on your plate so he can do Ironman? What on earth has happened to men?

wfhwfh · 23/08/2025 09:33

Offherrockingchair · 23/08/2025 07:44

He needs to earn more then! If you can earn more than him in 4 days, why do more?

This! If he’s putting pressure on you as he wants more money, the obvious solution is for him to earn more. It’s more tax efficient if your earnings are broadly equalised rather than you earning more. Plus it sounds like you are using your day off to do household work to benefit the family.

Hes really lucky to have a wife who earns enough to make more than his full-time equivalent wage in 4 days and to use the extra time to pick up extra household work. He needs to try and step up a bit

arethereanyleftatall · 23/08/2025 09:34

@adviceneeded1990are you saying that you have young children full time and you are doing all the housework/cooking/cleaning/gardening/errands/life admin in 20 mins a day plus 2 hours on a weekend? I’d say that’s highly unusual. I spend longer than 20 mins a day on the cooking for a family alone!

chimichangaz · 23/08/2025 09:34

ThePoetsWife · 23/08/2025 07:57

You haven’t answered questions about whether he will go 50:50 with all the chores including pick ups and drop offs. This means he won’t be able to pursue his interests as much as he is hoping to.

This, 100%.

Omgblueskys · 23/08/2025 09:35

BiddyPopthe2nd · 23/08/2025 09:22

I think a frank and honest conversation is needed about the reality of you going back up to FT hours. And what it will mean now that you are a larger family.

So your time currently is spent doing X hours at work, Y hours on housework and chores, Z hours doing child-related things. And you have to sleep so you realistically only have A hours for personal time. If you increase the work hours to X+8 or X+16, depending on 4 or 5 days, where are those extra 8 or 16 hours going to come from. And what compromises as a family will be needed to allow that.

What flexibility that you currently have will you lose, to deal with Drs or other appointments during the working week, school meetings (and all the annual shows, parent/teacher meetings, etc), dentist trips for you and DC, any business appointments needed like occasional trips to the bank or whatever?

What is the plan for afterschool care if you are working? That is an extra cost to factor in. And it becomes trickier as DC get older and many of the potential afterschool activities they could do are midweek afternoons when you will be working (sports of all kinds, drama, music, scouts, cookery school, book club, ….depends on your area generally and also on your PTA for what’s offered in school) - many afterschool clubs only want to collect DCs immediately at the end of the normal school day, won’t facilitate activities afterschool either at school or elsewhere.

What will happen all the household chores you do?

I would also have a similar XYZA accounting of hours for DH, even if approximate, to show the balance (or imbalance) currently and how his numbers would also have to change.

Or will you need to buy in services like cleaner, afterschool, food prep boxes, online groceries and delivery fees,….? How much Willy hat cost, and take away from your increased pay?

And if his plan is that you use the extra money for his hobbies and big holidays - are you getting even less leisure time? And will you have the holidays available from work to go away that much, especially as you’ll need spare days for school events and how will you cover school holidays as they are longer than annual leave allowances usually. Camps for younger DC are hard to find and expensive, and even for older DCs, they tend to be 10am-2pm rather than full day.

Ask lots of questions about what his solutions are for these problems - have some ideas, but try to allow him to come to the conclusion himself that it’s not feasible for you, at the present time, to go back FT. And also to come to the conclusion that his plans for rock climbing and IM training will negatively impact on your (probably already small) leisure time - so apart from the money considerations, he needs to think about the fairness of that. And that he expects to find these hobbies by you both becoming the higher earner - and losing out even more on the things that matter to you and to your ability to have time for a hobby or 2.

So what will he start to do instead (from your Y and Z hours) to help offset the increase in X and forced decrease in A?

This ☝️ op,
Think about the after school activities too, my little one had dance after school, so pick up 3.15, dance 4pm till 6, dinner 6.30, yes with brother who had no say but to be dragged along, layer on that same year, daughter dance twice aweek son football training twice a week different days to each other, so it gets really busy op, when you fill time your cleaning window/ washing becomes after their bedtime just before you bedtime because you're bloody knackered op, wake up the day day and start again
That was my Monday to Friday, weekends became, football matches, dance competitions, swimming lessons, it's never ending op, my home felt like a bus stop op really just picking up dropping off more washing bit of cooking our again, it's all about the kids am afraid op, my hobbies went out the window there's no time your too knackered op,

WimbyAce · 23/08/2025 09:39

Some people think when the kids start school then that is the magic solution to going back to work full time. The reality is they are only in school between 830/3ish so it is not all day. There are a lot of school holidays to cover. Also a lot of extra things to think about and plan when they are at school. There is no way I could cope with a full time job on top and I take my hat off to those that do it.

Friendlygingercat · 23/08/2025 09:41

Its obvious your DH does not consider work in the home as real work. Does he imagine that the elves and fairies do the shopping. cleaning, washing and so on? Or does he think about it at all? Probably not. As many other posters upthread have pointed out if you are going to be out at work more hours then he is going to have to pick up more of the household tasks. Does not sound like a team player.

WalkingaroundJardine · 23/08/2025 09:42

adviceneeded1990 · 23/08/2025 09:28

I’m not trying to sound confrontational but genuinely wondering, what possibly needs done in a house cleaning or errand wise that takes 5 evenings a week AND all weekend, unless you live in Buckingham palace? I’d honestly say we spend about 15-20 mins a night doing a tidy before bed, all working together, DH does a shop one evening while DSD is at a hobby class, it takes 45 mins. He batch cooks for the week on a Sunday night listening to his football highlights after bedtime, takes him about an hour. I do a deeper clean of the (probably average sized) house on a Sunday, it takes me an hour or so if we’ve kept on top of things with nightly tidies during the week. I will never understand how Mumsnet people are losing several hours per evening plus two full days to this stuff.

When the kids are 2 and 4 it’s a lot harder to work full time plus take on the bulk of the housework especially if doing shift work too. Small children are messier and demand more parenting. You need to do the bath, story, bed time routine with them as well.
I had to take my kids to a lot of after school activities and appointments as well.

MrsDoubtfire123 · 23/08/2025 09:47

Offherrockingchair · 23/08/2025 07:44

He needs to earn more then! If you can earn more than him in 4 days, why do more?

THIS !!!

Optimist2020 · 23/08/2025 09:48

Your husband should get a better paid job so he can have the lifestyle he thinks he deserves. @Lovelifesmile

I suggest you start sending him 80k plus jobs that he can apply for if he wants nice holidays.

I would also send him a rightmove link to a 1 or 2 bed flat so he can see how far his salary stretches as a single man.

Cheeky fecker.

Greenwitchart · 23/08/2025 09:49

Is he going to do half of the childcare, shopping, housekeeping and so on then?

I doubt that very much somehow.

You will just end up working full time AND doing most of the childcare and everything else.

You are already bringing money in and if he wants more money he can try to get a promotion, a better paid job or additional hours.

Nobody needs 'lavish holidays' or to go rock climbing....

Frankly this would really put me off a partner. He sounds selfish and immature.