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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Something isn't right thread #2

856 replies

FourAndFive · 21/08/2025 11:18

Thanks so much for all your help and support. I can't believe the first thread is full - there isn’t a huge amount to update on right now, but I am looking forward to the future with my head held high, whatever the outcome. I'll keep posting.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5391850-something-isnt-right-emotional-affair-or-just-friends?page=1

Something isn't right - emotional affair or just friends? | Mumsnet

Name changed for this. It's a bit of a blur, and long, apologies in advance. I need help and/or a slap to either wake me up to an emotional affair a...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5391850-something-isnt-right-emotional-affair-or-just-friends?page=1

OP posts:
Secondstart1001 · 28/08/2025 08:37

To be honest I am not sure what op had done wrong, she’s seen a solicitor and made her H move out. She wants to try save the marriage but she has boundaries - biggest one is he gives up his “friendship” with the ow. I don’t think she can do anymore. She cannot force him to do more. He needs to want to save the marriage. I think some of the comments are harsh and unrealistic and will drive @FourAndFive away. In two weeks she’s taken swift action after months of sadness and his bullshit. Please posters give this lady credit and respect.

LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 08:54

Secondstart1001 · 28/08/2025 08:37

To be honest I am not sure what op had done wrong, she’s seen a solicitor and made her H move out. She wants to try save the marriage but she has boundaries - biggest one is he gives up his “friendship” with the ow. I don’t think she can do anymore. She cannot force him to do more. He needs to want to save the marriage. I think some of the comments are harsh and unrealistic and will drive @FourAndFive away. In two weeks she’s taken swift action after months of sadness and his bullshit. Please posters give this lady credit and respect.

Well said.

ForeverTipsy · 28/08/2025 10:26

LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 08:54

Well said.

Completely agree. OP is doing remarkably well, and doing what is right for her and her children, and getting real life support.

You're in my thoughts OP; Sending you love and strength through a screen from another total stranger.

SchrodingersParrot · 28/08/2025 11:56

I hope things work out for you, OP. Sending love xx

Dozer · 28/08/2025 12:49

It’s great that he’s agreed to stay elsewhere for the moment and knows that you’re considering your options.

FenellaFurchester · 28/08/2025 14:17

FourAndFive · 27/08/2025 11:33

Sorry for the silence - I needed to step back from here a bit. Notifications off on most things. I needed it and I'm doing okay. Solicitors went well, I feel armed at least. I'm still looking forward to the future, because I have to - there is only forwards and my peace of mind.

Their event is not for a good while yet, apologies for the confusion. I think I mentioned that in the first thread.

My lovely parents now know more - but DF had a fall, so I didn't give them the whole story. They know he lied and for how long, and how it's made me feel and that he is not at home for now. Of course they support me, wholeheartedly. I've also told a few trusted friends, and that has been a huge relief.

We spoke a few days ago, about practicalities mostly - collecting more clothes, the DC's etc. He understands everything and has agreed to do anything I want - therapy, counselling, space, talking. That's all fine, until I asked him - you would do all of that for us, except just cut contact with her? and he was silent. Says all I needed to hear, really, doesn't it.

I’m so frustrated on your behalf! How can he still think that this friendship is worth losing everything for? Is he doubling down that this is somehow your issue or something in your head? I would take him up on the counselling asap and maybe if he has to listen to himself justify it to a third party he’ll see sense. It’s baffling.

Keyhooks · 28/08/2025 15:05

I also agree that she may be oblivious to his feelings.

It never ceases to amaze me how vain, deluded and frankly completely detached from reality some middle aged men are about their chances with women 20+ years younger than them.

In my mid 20's I quickly became guarded around some of the older men having been repeatedly asked out in the large company I worked for.

What I thought was friendly pleasant chat, they seemingly thought was interest.🙄

I wasn't alone in that position, as several colleagues/ friends also found it genuinely bizarre that these guys would think we would be interested in them.
They were overwhelmingly married and would have spoken about their families in initial pleasant chats.
Twats.

Bo1978 · 28/08/2025 16:19

PanderBare · 27/08/2025 20:52

@Bo1978 , OP said No, he is not staying with her.

Ahh I misread it! Thank you ☺️

KeepOnKeepingOn25 · 28/08/2025 16:50

I hope you’re doing ok OP, sending love.

When I went through something similar I needed some time to mentally detach from the pain and shock as it became too much. If there’s anything you can do to bring your stress down lovely, do it. Sensory soothing can be helpful, a warm bath with salts, a hot water bottle, getting lost in a favourite book. I found nice smells quite grounding for some reason, the smell of fresh coffee, lavender, lemons. Anything to give your brain and heart a little break. You are amazing and you WILL get through this 🌸

MrsPerfect12 · 29/08/2025 09:01

You’re doing great OP! You’ve done all you can.
He might come to his senses but by then you might be too far past the point of no return. We’ll support you here whatever happens.

Downbutnotout2 · 30/08/2025 16:20

Hi @FourAndFive I've been reading both of your threads, and wanted to say you're doing great.

A lot of what you say really resonates with me as I've had a big shock lately (a week ago today), and I'm taking time to decide where we go from here.
The only difference is mine is to do with him lying about money and spending, rather than an affair, and unfortunately, it's not the first time. 😔

Still, it's the lies that hurt, isn't it? I feel so betrayed, as I'm sure you do. I actually think that the feelings it causes are similar.

Feel free to pm me if you want to chat about things. 💐

Clarabell77 · 30/08/2025 17:43

Crikeyalmighty · 27/08/2025 16:16

@FourAndFive I would pretty much bet this woman has no idea of the extent of your Hs limerence - a lot of younger people in particular really do genuinely not see the issue if they get over involved with other people’s partners to the extent of making the partner feel uncomfortable - however some blokes would seriously rather ruin a good relationship than lose face and have to admit to a woman that their partner felt they had overstepped the mark by some margin and that the friendship couldn’t continue as it was.

I disagree, especially after the “are you okay? Is it me” question from OW. She knows fine what she’s doing.

TammyJones · 30/08/2025 19:12

Clarabell77 · 30/08/2025 17:43

I disagree, especially after the “are you okay? Is it me” question from OW. She knows fine what she’s doing.

Yes, and because of that I’d be having a word.
Not the Mumsnet thing.
I had a friend who dh was been pursued by a ow. Genuinely her dh was oblivious. My friend told her back off.
In her case ow nearly p***d her pants.
I know that’s not always the case and some ow can turn nasty.
However , I would still be asking what the heck she doing … and was she trying to destroy my marriage ( yes I know the man is a fault - but op’s tried that - and he’s too thick in the emotional fog to see the wood for the trees - and men can be stupid at times).
Most of these ow are weak anyway.

Keyhooks · 30/08/2025 19:36

Clarabell77 · 30/08/2025 17:43

I disagree, especially after the “are you okay? Is it me” question from OW. She knows fine what she’s doing.

I missed her asking this...yea, that might well indicate awareness alright.

Graphinette · 31/08/2025 06:54

Clarabell77 · 30/08/2025 17:43

I disagree, especially after the “are you okay? Is it me” question from OW. She knows fine what she’s doing.

Where on this thread had the OW been in touch with the OP please because I and others have not seen that. Thanks.

fedup078 · 31/08/2025 07:02

Graphinette · 31/08/2025 06:54

Where on this thread had the OW been in touch with the OP please because I and others have not seen that. Thanks.

ow hasn’t been in touch with the op . This is what the ow said to H when he’d gone a bit quiet when the shit hit the fan between him and op.

Graphinette · 31/08/2025 07:06

fedup078 · 31/08/2025 07:02

ow hasn’t been in touch with the op . This is what the ow said to H when he’d gone a bit quiet when the shit hit the fan between him and op.

Ah, OK thanks for that. I'm off my cake on morphine this morning and thought I was losing the plot entirely.

Clarabell77 · 31/08/2025 07:45

Graphinette · 31/08/2025 06:54

Where on this thread had the OW been in touch with the OP please because I and others have not seen that. Thanks.

It wasn’t to the OP it was in the texts to the husband.

Graphinette · 31/08/2025 08:33

Clarabell77 · 31/08/2025 07:45

It wasn’t to the OP it was in the texts to the husband.

Thanks for that. I remember that now.

TheTeaCosyofDoom · 31/08/2025 15:50

@FourAndFive

Hope you are OK, lovely, and that no news is good news.

Was going to send you a snuggle earlier, but this time last week I had a very poorly puddycat on my hands and thought we were going to lose him.

Better now, and snoring away so loudly that I can hear him on the far side of the living room, in his favourite cardboard box, of course. Love as always, TC x

Encrochat · 31/08/2025 17:14

Send you a SNUGGLE? Fkn he'll

CarpeVitam · 31/08/2025 17:34

Encrochat · 31/08/2025 17:14

Send you a SNUGGLE? Fkn he'll

😂

CanIgetARosePinkFrappucino · 31/08/2025 19:14

CarpeVitam · 31/08/2025 17:34

😂

She's on the wrong thread. That's not a thread about your daily life, cats and all that

I doubt the op has much time or energy blabbering away right now unless I'm wrong and that's private chat

PigletSanders · 03/09/2025 10:59

How is it going @FourAndFive?

Annie202 · 03/09/2025 12:20

Thinking of you and sending all good wishes.

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